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post 1687752703 08-04-2023, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
You shared a study which concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms two years later. You posted numerous studies about long Covid which had zero data validation and simply relied on internet surveys for their data. Then again, we now know you post studies even if you think they are inaccurate…which explains a lot considering some of the studies you post. It doesn’t explain why you so adamantly defend them though, seeing as how you yourself say they don’t indicate what they say they conclude.
post 1687752793 08-04-2023, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You shared a study which concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms two years later. You posted numerous studies about long Covid which had zero data validation and simply relied on internet surveys for their data. Then again, we now know you post studies even if you think they are inaccurate…which explains a lot considering some of the studies you post. It doesn’t explain why you so adamantly defend them though, seeing as how you yourself say they don’t indicate what they say they conclude.
This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?
post 1687753813 08-04-2023, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
Majority of the world had it twice, 17% of the world's population would be close to a billion people. So one billion people are suffering from Long Covid?
post 1687753993 08-04-2023, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?
Which study?
post 1687754113 08-04-2023, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Which study?
The one in the OP, the topic of this thread.
post 1687754173 08-04-2023, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Majority of the world had it twice, 17% of the world's population would be close to a billion people. So one billion people are suffering from Long Covid?
The WHO reports 768,983,095 confirmed cases.
post 1687754333 08-04-2023, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?
For the aims of this study, COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild,severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized)in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.




https://virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/

An acute viral infection is characterized by rapid onset of disease, a relatively brief period of symptoms, and resolution within days.
post 1687754493 08-04-2023, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
For the aims of this study, COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild,severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized)in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.




https://virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/

An acute viral infection is characterized by rapid onset of disease, a relatively brief period of symptoms, and resolution within days.
Okay?

Why didn't you bold "mild"?

Does that mean there isn't evidence of metabolites 2 years later?
post 1687754583 08-04-2023, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Okay?

Why didn't you bold "mild"?

Does that mean there isn't evidence of metabolites 2 years later?
Because I was only pointing out what contradicted your claim(of which there is plenty).


Why are you trying to mislead people about the study?
post 1687754783 08-04-2023, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Because I was only pointing out what contradicted your claim(of which there is plenty).


Why are you trying to mislead people about the study?
Lol.

Sucks when evidence converges on things we don't like, eh?
post 1687754883 08-04-2023, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Are mud bloods those who have long term effects of (repeated) infections?


Bro. They lied to you. You bought into it like a good little sheep. Now you only have a couple more years.
post 1687755083 08-04-2023, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Lol.

Sucks when evidence converges on things we don't like, eh?
Hmmm…doesn’t really sound like acute infection to me:

COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild, severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized) in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.

Of these, 44 (35.6%) passed away during hospitalization and in the following months after hospital discharge. From 80 survivors, it was possible to contact 36 (by their Social Security Number or personal/relative phone number kept in hospital records), and 15 agreed to participate. For these 15 patients, paired plasma samples from the first diagnosis of the acute disease (COVID-19 group) and post-COVID phase were available.




So they tested 15 people who were hospitalized with OG Covid(with no prior baseline to compare to) and concluded a change.




Strong evidence of lots of people getting long Covid now. Pro tip: when you have to lie about the study that’s a sign it isn’t all that great. Then again it’s likely you’ll say the study doesn’t indicate anything a few weeks from now, as you are known to do.
post 1687755263 08-04-2023, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Hmmm…doesn’t really sound like acute infection to me:

For these 15 patients, paired plasma samples from the first diagnosis of theacute disease (COVID-19 group) and post-COVID phase were available.
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post 1687757373 08-04-2023, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
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If someone is diagnosed with acute disease and then later gets a severe infection to the point of hospitalization does that mean it was actually acute, or that the diagnosis was wrong?
post 1687757643 08-04-2023, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Let me guess, your female friend who was vaccinated, got the weakest variant and was bed ridden for two weeks, is suffering from "Long Covid."
Another wrong guess, but that is how you roll, mostly wrong about things.
Sucks to be you!
Try and keep up with the adult discussion here about statistical changes over time.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
post 1687757783 08-04-2023, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
post-COVID phasewere available.
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post 1687757833 08-04-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Do you answer questions or only ask?
He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
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post 1687758643 08-04-2023, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
Perhaps there's comfort in addressing discussants rather than topics?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The WHO reports 768,983,095 confirmed cases.
You do know that many people had it, and didn't get tested? Hell, China stopped counting their numbers after a few months.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Another wrong guess, but that is how you roll, mostly wrong about things.
Sucks to be you!
Try and keep up with the adult discussion here about statistical changes over time.
Okay? So your female friend isn't suffering from "Long Covid," I guess she just got lucky.......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You do know that many people had it, and didn't get tested? Hell, China stopped counting their numbers after a few months.
Right. That was my question. Do you think ascertainment estimates were/are off by orders of magnitude?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
Truth is, unlike you, I'm not taking Rainman here seriously. I know the Rona was very traumatic for you, you admitted to suffering from "Covid Fatigue," rest ofnus were living our lives like usual.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
You're the one claiming that 17% of those who got the Rona, are suffering long term complications. Since the majority of the planet got it, despite what the WHO says, that would mean that close to a billion people are still ****ed up?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You're the one claiming that 17% of those who got the Rona, are suffering long term complications. Since the majority of the planet got it, despite what the WHO says, that would mean that close to a billion people are still ****ed up?
Not really. Estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20% of infections.

It seems like you're suggesting that equates to billions of people. I'm asking how you get to that estimate.
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J.LC. You need to stop. You don't have much time left. You shouldn't be wasting what little time you have left arguing online.
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Originally Posted By WIBELZ
J.LC. You need to stop. You don't have much time left. You shouldn't be wasting what little time you have left arguing online.
Wat?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Not really. Estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20% of infections.

It seems like you're suggesting that equates to billions of people. I'm asking how you get to that estimate.
10-20%? So which is it?

Let's say that a billion people got the Rona, even though the number is higher, you're claiming that 100 million people are suffering from "Long Covid?"
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
10-20%? So which is it?

Let's say that a billion people got the Rona, even though the number is higher, you're claiming that 100 million people are suffering from "Long Covid?"
The estimates vary between 10-20%.

I'm not claiming anything, that's what the data suggest.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Wat?
Bro you're on your ninth booster and still getting them. That heart ain't going to hold out much longer.
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Bro you're on your ninth booster and still getting them. That heart ain't going to hold out much longer.
Wat?
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