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post 1689982643 09-13-2023, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Out of all the examples he used, he used people not eating at a restaurant???? Which lasted a few months at the most???
There were other things, nasty comments. At that time people here would post things like Chinese immigrants got their cooking oil from the sewer and such. And because I’m tied to reality here and not trying to constantly move the goalposts over partisanship I’m using the examples that happened to friends and family.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
There were other things, nasty comments. At that time people here would post things like Chinese immigrants got their cooking oil from the sewer and such.And because I’m tied to reality here and not trying to constantly move the goalposts over partisanshipI’m using the examples that happened to friends and family.
LMAO!! Right... Nonpartisan arguments are totally nonpartisan. And we're supposed to believe your anecdotal bullshiit "just because" lol.

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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Panda Express is unhealthy, more traditional food can be extremely healthy though.

And I never said that, I said they faced discrimination and that happened at the time Trump was making all his anti-Chinese comments.

He nevvvvvvver touched the actual bad guys in China though. Guess he still needs his ties made by slaves.
Riiiiiiight, in the extremely liberal city they live in........

And I'm not talking about Panda Express, I'm talking about their dishes in regular restaurants. There's nothing healthy about an egg roll, or sweet and sour soup.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
There were other things, nasty comments. At that time people here would post things like Chinese immigrants got their cooking oil from the sewer and such. And because I’m tied to reality here and not trying to constantly move the goalposts over partisanship I’m using the examples that happened to friends and family.
That's it????? Mean comments about Chinese food??? Which has existed for decades???
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Originally Posted By estrogenbro⏩
There were other things, nasty comments. At that time people here would post things like Chinese immigrants got their cooking oil from the sewer and such.And because I’m tied to reality here and not trying to constantly move the goalposts over partisanshipI’m using the examples that happened to friends and family.
Originally Posted By estrogenbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage.And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
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I'd imagine the whole radical anti-capitalist left, would be classed as very anti establishment. Pretty much anti-establishment as it gets. The US doesn't really have them, but you get a very diluted version of them in the Bernie camp etc.

I wouldn't call them liberals though, liberals are basically left leaning and mostly agree with the mainstream and status quo and don't want to fundamentally change anything in a big way.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Being blindly anti establishment is just as ignorant as being blindly establishment.

If the establishment does things I don’t like I boo, if the establishment does things I like I cheer
I mean, yes, you shouldn't pre-judge any entity, even our corrupt and objectively evil Government... but of the two, one is extremely prevalent and of the two the worse of them. We need more people to question the establishment, even if blindly hating them *is* not good, but we still have a great imbalance in the way people think about it.

On Trump (riling up racial hate): I don't recall what he was saying about China that was particularly bad or untrue. While I loath people attacking some guy's wife over her heritage -- that is *human nature* in times like this. If China did something bad, and they did, you don't keep from putting the blame/finger on them because stupid people will react hostile towards innocent random people who have Asian heritage.

Fortunately, you see a lot less of that in rural areas, ironically, than in big liberal cities. I never heard about Sikh people being jumped after 9/11 in Hicksville when they were mistaken to be have been Muslims. Happened all over in New York or Dallas, though.

Maybe I'm wrong, but having lived in smaller areas and also larger cities, both North and South: In the South, people can be pretty racist towards groups as a whole, but tend to restrain that on an individual level better (not always, but more often). In the North or big liberal cities, people are all rainbows and flowers when it comes to their opinions about minority groups, but then are much more likely to be horrible to an individual who is black or whatever.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
For sure. You think I'm a chick and you're scared of me, so I think you'd be terrified of some roofers, son.
You are, though. I dont know why youre trying to hide it.

For example, you came into this thread with zero intention of discussing it so you could bitch at me over some weird personal thing.

Hows that not a female?
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Liberals are basically left leaning[color=red]Demons [color]and mostly agree with the mainstream and status quoand don't want to fundamentally change anything in a big way.and don't want to fundamentally change anything in a big way.
The Era of Great Noticing has begun.
Modern liberalism is morally bankrupt and demonic.
Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
- "I blame Trump for a whole lot of bad stuff!"

- "But believe me guise, I really am nonpartisan!"

He had that much influence, to stop people from eating Chinese food, and eat pizza instead during the lock downs.......

Not eating Chinese Food is white supremacy.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
You are, though. I dont know why youre trying to hide it.

For example, you came into this thread with zero intention of discussing it so you could bitch at me over some weird personal thing.

Hows that not a female?
I came into this thread to read and laugh at another blog post by Xterra; you thinking I came in for you is what makes you a little bitch, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I came into this thread to read and laugh at another blog post by Xterra; you thinking I came in for you is what makes you a little bitch, son.
Have a salad crusher, you're not you when you're hungry......
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I came into this thread to read and laugh at another blog post by Xterra; you thinking I came in for you is what makes you a little bitch, son.
This is part of my 500 thread series exploring the[color=red]Final Solution[color]to theLiberal ProblemLiberal Problem.
The Era of Great Noticing has begun.
Modern liberalism is morally bankrupt and demonic.
Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
This is part of my 500 thread series exploring the[color=red]Final Solution[color]to theLiberal ProblemLiberal Problem.
I mean, we can ALL agree Rob is mentally unwell yes? He used to be a little out there - but this is nuts.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I came into this thread to read and laugh at another blog post by Xterra; you thinking I came in for you is what makes you a little bitch, son.
If you had merely spoken about the thread instead of bitching about me then I may be able to draw that conclusion. Expecting me to be a mind reader, just lol at every post you make points to a female brain. You legitimately cant hide youre a chick, I dont know why youre LARPing as a guy lol

Do you have any thoughts on the thread topic or are you just going to bitch about unrelated nonsense because you cant help it, woman?
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
If you had merely spoken about the thread instead of bitching about me then I may be able to draw that conclusion.
Well, you just so happened to post something even funnier than the OP, so here we are, son.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
I'd imagine the whole radical anti-capitalist left, would be classed as very anti establishment. Pretty much anti-establishment as it gets. The US doesn't really have them, but you get a very diluted version of them in the Bernie camp etc.

I wouldn't call them liberals though, liberals are basically left leaning and mostly agree with the mainstream and status quo and don't want to fundamentally change anything in a big way.
What’s ironic is the antiestablishment/anti capitalist camp tends to be for big govt and more govt involvement… which has never worked, anywhere.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said in the same speech. “They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

You tell me he didn’t mean most Mexicans with that statement. And let’s be precise with our language here. I actually doubt Trump dislikes Mexicans any more than you or me. I think he likes to rile people up and enough of his base seemed to like it. The rest, like you, are busy throwing every single attempt at deflecting from his actual statements.
I'm not deflecting from his statements- I said they were crude but I'm able to ignore the childishness of it because he's proposing an idea/policy of strengthening the southern border. Instead of caring about that, the left decided to prioritize their feelings on his psyche instead of the countries sovereignty. However, I think my guess is right that no matter who the candidate is suggesting stronger border security thats not a (D) will be ridiculed as a racist and you will agree.

Im sure he riled up some weirdos because they are weird SJW's that dont like Mexican folks, but I'm not going to vote against border security because of those turds.
And I have no idea what you mean with your last sentence, I didn’t comment on any of my friends or family acting stupidly.
Oops, not your friends, I meant you cant blame Trump for an individuals idiocy, like harassing your friends over COVID. That's like me blaming you for anti-white people rhetoric on the left.
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Well, you just so happened to post something even funnier than the OP, so here we are, son.
Again, do you have anything at all in regards to the topic? Lmao, my cot.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I'm not deflecting from his statements- I said they were crude but I'm able to ignore the childishness of it because he's proposing an idea/policy of strengthening the southern border. Instead of caring about that, the left decided to prioritize their feelings on his psyche instead of the countries sovereignty. However, I think my guess is right that no matter who the candidate is suggesting stronger border security thats not a (D) will be ridiculed as a racist and you will agree.

Im sure he riled up some weirdos because they are weird SJW's that dont like Mexican folks, but I'm not going to vote against border security because of those turds.




Oops, not your friends, I meant you cant blame Trump for an individuals idiocy, like harassing your friends over COVID. That's like me blaming you for anti-white people rhetoric on the left.



Again, do you have anything at all in regards to the topic? Lmao, my cot.
The people that said a secure border is racist are the same people who are declaring a state of emergency, because a few thousand Migrants were sent to their city.....

And Trump is so charismatic, so beloved that Chinese restaurants took a hit with a decrease in customers, in very Liberal cities.....
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Russell Brand comes to mind.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Again, do you have anything at all in regards to the topic? Lmao, my cot.
Are you tarded? Rhetorical question, btw. I already spoke on the topic, so the only thing left to do is make fun of you, son.
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Bump.
Originally Posted By estrogenbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
LMFAO!!!! Of course you do lol.. Tbh we wouldn't expect anything less from you.







God damn MAGA cultists are out of CONTROL dammit!
Originally Posted By estrogenbro⏩
It wasn’t Blacks that caused the problems.
So who caused them? Whole lotta Asian people getting the shiit kicked out of them bro. What's up with that?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Bump.







So who caused them? Whole lotta Asian people getting the shiit kicked out of them bro. What's up with that?
Bruh, don't you know that not eating at a restaurant is worse than a beat down???!!!

My mistake, the left are the ones who shutdown Chinese restaurants.

So I guess not ordering Chinese takeout is worse than a beat down?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The people that said a secure border is racist are the same people who are declaring a state of emergency, because a few thousand Migrants were sent to their city.....

And Trump is so charismatic, so beloved that Chinese restaurants took a hit with a decrease in customers, in very Liberal cities.....
It's all nonsense.
Originally Posted By z4v4
Are you tarded? Rhetorical question, btw. I already spoke on the topic, so the only thing left to do is make fun of you, son.
Oh ok, keep on being a bitch, then. It's really a great strategy to getting whatever you want, and it seems in this case its these little bitchfights you seemingly need.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Oh ok, keep on being a bitch, then. It's really a great strategy to getting whatever you want, and it seems in this case its these little bitchfights you seemingly need.
Keep posting like a little bitch, and I'll keep calling you out. That's how this works, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Keep posting like a little bitch, and I'll keep calling you out. That's how this works, son.
You really have no idea how transparent it is that you didn’t have a strong father figure in your life.

I’m legitimately trying to help you here, stop allowing your emotions to send you into a rage.

If you’d like to respond to what I’m saying about the topic that would be a good start.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Bump.







So who caused them? Whole lotta Asian people getting the shiit kicked out of them bro. What's up with that?
Drumpf's bigotry!
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
You really have no idea how transparent it is that you didn’t have a strong father figure in your life.

I’m legitimately trying to help you here, stop allowing your emotions to send you into a rage.

If you’d like to respond to what I’m saying about the topic that would be a good start.
Lol @ raging. Can't tell if you're attempting to gaslight or just retarded. We can start by you quoting the part you construed as raging, son.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Most liberals think of themselves as anti-establishment. They live in a delusional world where they think the Christian right has all the power. Sprinkle in how they hate police, and they completely convince themselves that they are still the counter-culture.
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