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post 1689958573 09-12-2023, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Whether you agree on the border has nothing to do with the fact that you think a majority of Trump voters are scared of Mexicans…
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
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The political definition of "establishment" is anybody who doesn't support Trump. Therefore, all libs are pro-establishment.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
I believe people that dont like Trump like to drop all rationality or benefit of the doubt. If theres even a 1% chance he meant "all Mexicans" you will jump on it. I heard what he said, understood the message- theres a problem at the border, I agreed- There are these people coming across the border.

The same way you hold on to the "grab them by the pussy" comment, "both sides have fine people,"- with a small amount of context the average nonpartisan should be able to understand the message. Are his comments off the hip and not PC? Absolutely, it doesnt mean he hates Mexicans, lol.

Blaming Trump for your friends idiocy is insane.
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post 1689959683 09-12-2023, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I believe people that dont like Trump like to drop all rationality or benefit of the doubt. If theres even a 1% chance he meant "all Mexicans" you will jump on it. I heard what he said, understood the message- theres a problem at the border, I agreed- There are these people coming across the border.

The same way you hold on to the "grab them by the pussy" comment, "both sides have fine people,"- with a small amount of context the average nonpartisan should be able to understand the message. Are his comments off the hip and not PC? Absolutely, it doesnt mean he hates Mexicans, lol.

Blaming Trump for your friends idiocy is insane.
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said in the same speech. “They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

You tell me he didn’t mean most Mexicans with that statement. And let’s be precise with our language here. I actually doubt Trump dislikes Mexicans any more than you or me. I think he likes to rile people up and enough of his base seemed to like it. The rest, like you, are busy throwing every single attempt at deflecting from his actual statements.

And I have no idea what you mean with your last sentence, I didn’t comment on any of my friends or family acting stupidly.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
china is terrible and should be PUNISHED for what they did bringing covid to the world, you should be ashamed of yourself
post 1689960023 09-12-2023, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
china is terrible and should be PUNISHED for what they did bringing covid to the world, you should be ashamed of yourself
I, literally, posted that today.
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Being blindly anti establishment is just as ignorant as being blindly establishment.

If the establishment does things I don’t like I boo, if the establishment does things I like I cheer
post 1689961123 09-12-2023, 06:22 PM
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That term is used by liberals who are running for reelection but they cant really run on their horrible voting record or liberal policies.

They also can turn into a republican so they assign themselves some sort of outsider type status in hoes of getting reelected and continuing their insane policies.
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Quite a few independent journalists that are constantly accused of being pro Russia in order to have them silenced.

Jimmy Dore is the only major name I can think of in American politics, guy's an unhinged lefty in some ways but he was a regular on Tucker Carlson cause he shat on the establishment, and always takes heat from Bidenists for bashing liberals 100x more than conservatives.

Russel Brand would be number 1 but I don't think he's an American citizen
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
All these Migrants that are filling the stations, and living in tents, is that what you consider their "best and brightest?"

And I love this whole Asians being attacked by black people, being blamed on Trump.....
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Whether you agree on the border has nothing to do with the fact that you think a majority of Trump voters are scared of Mexicans. I just thought that part was crazy. If you cant weed out the few nutjobs and their alts on this forum, idk what to say. Theres nobody in congress that supports locking down the border because "theys mexican!" Trump voters support stronger border security/vetting and it has ZERO to do with the persons skin.

The irony of you saying its important to view you as the worst in the same breath you think most Trumpers hate non-white people is great, too. I mean, come on lol
Infersting how all these politicians in these progressive cities are freaking out over Mexicans being sent to their cities, kind of racist if you ask me......
post 1689964123 09-12-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
You actually think people like me are afraid of Mexican people
For sure. You think I'm a chick and you're scared of me, so I think you'd be terrified of some roofers, son.
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For sure. You think I'm a chick and you're scared of me, so I think you'd be terrified of some roofers, son.
I'm afraid one of them is gonna crash into me in the early afternoon, after drinking too many cervezas.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I didn’t say that, I have no idea of the percentage, but I do believe they exist. And you can’t deny how inflammatory Trump is about this. Nobody says “they are sending rapists” and whatever else was in that statement without Trump believing at least a worthwhile chunk of his base wants to get riled up about Mexicans (and Chinese for awhile).

My wife was born here but her family all immigrated from China. I live in a big, liberal, city and during the bad times of Covid I had friends and family who were 100% harassed for their Han Chinese heritage. And yes, I blame Trump for a lot of that.
LMFAO!!!! Of course you do lol.. Tbh we wouldn't expect anything less from you.







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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
God damn MAGA cultists are out of CONTROL dammit!
It wasn’t Blacks that caused the problems.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
All these Migrants that are filling the stations, and living in tents, is that what you consider their "best and brightest?"

And I love this whole Asians being attacked by black people, being blamed on Trump.....
Probably not. Nor are the non-migrants who get arrested and live in tent cities.

It wasn’t Blacks I’m referring to.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
It wasn’t Blacks that caused the problems.
Sure it wasn't....... It was those damn MAGA Trumpers, in the liberal city you live in.....

Just like the ones who attacked Smollet.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
It wasn’t Blacks that caused the problems.
Oh... my bad.

Help me out here though... Did somebody stick a gun to their heads and MAKE them attack Asian people?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Sure it wasn't....... It was those damn MAGA Trumpers, in the liberal city you live in.....
I was surprised, but it totally happened. Or restaurants boycotted.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I was surprised, but it totally happened. Or restaurants boycotted.
Wow, let me get this straight, restaurants in a huge, liberal city refused service to your Chinese in laws/relatives? Seriously guy?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Wow, let me get this straight, restaurants in a huge, liberal city refused service to your Chinese in laws/relatives? Seriously guy?
Noooo and I think you have to be pretty dense to read what I posted that way. I’m white btw, not that it really matters.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Oh... my bad.

Help me out here though... Did somebody stick a gun to their heads and MAKE them attack Asian people?
It was interesting how #StopAsianHate fizzled out when the videos of the crime didn't fit the narrative.

Sure, they found some homeless junkies on a beach yelling slurs at them, but for the most part, the offenders had a........ 365 day a year, dark complexion with dicks bigger than those sausages.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Noooo and I think you have to be pretty dense to read what I posted that way. I’m white btw, not that it really matters.
Awwwwwwwww, people stopped eating at Chinese restaurants for awhile...... I mean, people aren't obligated to eat at these places, and not eating at a restaurant isn't a hate crime.

Also, it was only for awhile, and people were back to drinking their BOBA tea, and eating their sodium enriched meals.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Awwwwwwwww, people stopped eating at Chinese restaurants for awhile...... I mean, people aren't obligated to eat at these places, and not eating at a restaurant isn't a hate crime.

Also, it was only for awhile, and people were back to drinking their BOBA tea, and eating their sodium enriched meals.
Yet you and people like you go into spittle-flecked rage whenever someone trashes the police.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Awwwwwwwww, people stopped eating at Chinese restaurants for awhile...... I mean, people aren't obligated to eat at these places, and not eating at a restaurant isn't a hate crime.

Also, it was only for awhile, and people were back to drinking their BOBA tea, and eating their sodium enriched meals.
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Yet you and people like you go into spittle-flecked rage whenever someone trashes the police.
He's right though.

Nobody is obligated to eat anywhere, and not eating at a Chinese restaurant is not a hate crime.

Not gonna touch this one though, are you...
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Oh... my bad.

Help me out here though... Did somebody stick a gun to their heads and MAKE them attack Asian people?
Beating the shiit out of Asian people for no apparent reason.. that a hate crime or nah.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Yet you and people like you go into spittle-flecked rage whenever someone trashes the police.
Depends what they did.

Anyway, people not eating Chinese food for a little while isn't racist. In fact, Chinese food is pretty unhealthy for the most part. Just one meal has more than the recommended daily sodium amount.

I guess refusing to eat a restaurant is worse than being physically assaulted and robbed......
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
He's right though.

Nobody is obligated to eat anywhere, and not eating at a Chinese restaurant is not a hate crime.

Not gonna touch this one though, are you...



Beating the shiit out of Asian people for no apparent reason.. that a hate crime or nah.
Out of all the examples he used, he used people not eating at a restaurant???? Which lasted a few months at the most???
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Depends what they did.

Anyway, people not eating Chinese food for a little while isn't racist. In fact, Chinese food is pretty unhealthy for the most part. Just one meal has more than the recommended daily sodium amount.

I guess refusing to eat a restaurant is worse than being physically assaulted and robbed......
Panda Express is unhealthy, more traditional food can be extremely healthy though.

And I never said that, I said they faced discrimination and that happened at the time Trump was making all his anti-Chinese comments.

He nevvvvvvver touched the actual bad guys in China though. Guess he still needs his ties made by slaves.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Out of all the examples he used, he used people not eating at a restaurant???? Which lasted a few months at the most???
That's when you know he's fuking desperate to have some sort of argument.. Any argument. Like throwing a handful of shiit on a wall and hoping some of it will stick.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Panda Express is unhealthy, more traditional food can be extremely healthy though.

And I never said that,I said they faced discrimination and that happened at the time Trump was making all his anti-Chinese comments.

He nevvvvvvver touched the actual bad guys in China though. Guess he still needs his ties made by slaves.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Oh... my bad.

Help me out here though... Did somebody stick a gun to their heads and MAKE them attack Asian people?




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