It didn't get to that point but it could have if not for the vaccine.

Almost everyone wears surgical masks. They do very little even if worn as intended. If everyone wore them out in public we'd see maybe a 10% decrease in transmission, which is not much when we're talking about a virus that's more infectious than any other virus in history. The next time you get infected you probably won't even know it. It will be asymptomatic or a head cold anyway. If you're over 80 possibly a little bit more than a head cold, but even then it's rather meh. My parents are getting up their in age and among the hundreds of people they know around their age through past work, neighborhoods, volunteering, bowling leagues, etc etc they don't know one person who has died of Covid. My dad is a Covid NPC so he'd immediately email us all if they knew even one person remotely in their social circle that died from Coof.

Sweet Jeebus I hope you're trolling. You are, right? Anyway, the Spanish Flu had a 5% infection fatality rate worldwide (less in the US). Thankfully it wasn't as infectious. With the Wuhan original strain there was a 0.3% infection fatality rate. It went down as time passed and now it's around a 0.01% infection fatality rate. Some of that is from protecting the elderly in early 2021, most of it is because everyone's already been infected and the virus itself became less lethal.

viruses are small enough to get through a mask on their own, but they dont float around in the air by themselves. They're transmitted through water droplest and aspirated water vapor from the lungs which is large enough to get trapped in the filter of a mask.

Again, people weren't wearing them properly so they were largely ineffective.

Correct, with the introduction of the vaccines.

Riiiight, because vaccinated individuals aren't getting the Rona......

Also, that jab is pretty much worthless a year later, so I guess that's why boosters are required......

A fourth one, which you probably got, should do the trick until Biden comes out with the magical one that will defeat it once and for all.

Ascribing those positions to people is an often used strategy 'round here

If not for the vaccine, hundreds of millions would have died? You still believe that?

How jabs have you gotten? Simple question.

It's interesting, if an athlete in the past got a cold or even the flu, they played, but if they have the Rona, they have to kiss the game.

Jenna Ortega had the Rona while doing Wednesday, was that irresponsible of her to still do the show? Should she have held up production and sat at home?

Funny enough, I've never been vaccinated for covid, lol. When I left the hospital setting they had begun to mandate it but I left to work for Amgen and they never mandated it.

Before the vaccines, what was the fatality rate if someone got the Rona? And the variants were already getting weaker by the time the vaccines were rolling out.

Nonsensical =/= simple

Why am I currently closing out a water purification study on Pfizers vaccine in 2023 if the previous vaccines were ineffective?

is this the part where we start talking about "nanobots in the vaccine" controlling people or something?

The vaccine effectiveness is pretty much zero, a year or more after getting it. Thus the push for booster shots. It's not a conspiracy, it's a fact.

Embarrassed?

Thats not what our internal data says.

Well, as much as I'd like to stay and chat, I'm off of work in about 10 minutes and its Friday. Here in San Diego its Oktober Fest so ill be out enjoying myself.

I hope you guys can do the same. No masks required, I promise.

But your nonsensical question? Not in the slightest.

Verifiable lie. With vaccines the infection fatality went from 0.3% to about 0.15% by protecting some elderly who would have otherwise died in 2021. The IFR would have gone down to that level anyway sans vaccines, but unfortunately it would have required tens of thousands of elderly dying before it happened. The biggest drops in the IFR happened because so much of the population had already been infected (with stronger immunity afterward than the vaccines could give) and then once Omicron came along the IFR immediately fell by a factor of at least 8. In the end the vaccines shielded some elderly and obese middle aged people in 2021. By now the IFR would be the same as it is if the vaccines didn't exist, but again yes tens of thousands of elderly would have died without them.

Prior infection makes a second infection much more mild. The vaccines give rather transient protection, in antibodies and T cells. And we know why.
103 million Americans infected in 2020 alone, per peer reviewed study by Colombia University's school of public health. All that infection was a large wall of built up immunity/resistance to illness. Of course there was plenty more infection to go around before infection fatality rates would have dropped to the level they did with the vaccines in 2021.

Barely anyone has gotten any boosters in the last 18 months and fatality keeps dropping even though in those 18 months we've had over half a billion infections in the US alone. I was massively pro vax when they were announced in late 2020. Their transient nature made my heart drop though in summer of 2021 when the next variant came along and didn't protect the vaxed as hoped. There's a reason people early on called Omicron an accidental vaccine. Nature did the world a bigger favor than the vaccines.

And again, the Spanish Flu had a 5% fatality rate. Less in the US because we had less malnourished people and were still a slim and much younger population than we are today. The Spanish Flu also didn't have the stratification of death by age that Covid did. Spanish Flu killed the young. Covid primarily killed the sickest of our elderly. Half of the elderly 2020 deaths were people in nursing homes, the sickest population we have. It was rarely dropping retired Bill and Susan that go for morning walks and are a healthy weight. The #1 comorbidity in 2020 among the dead was not even diabetes or obesity. It was dementia, which is people who health wise are beyond the frailty of diabetes and obesity, though they usually have or had those in their past. #2-3 comorbidities were liver failure (people already with it) and liver disease. Most of that is from decades of schit diet.

Careful now. JLC might accuse you of giving a hot take and disparage you for disappearing afterward because you have a social life (I have 3 young kids, so not so much, lulz). Anyway I've typed plenty so time for me to dip too.

Nah.

He didn't position any broad, but unsupported, opinions as facts

A mask does not stop viral transmission

El Cajon is the only Oktoberfest that is good. La Mesa sucks. Srs

Reduces it though

correct

lmao, on recharge

Not really... it's virtue signaling.

The masks and bragging about getting jabbed every time a fresh new booster drops gives them a smug sense of superiority. Once you look at it like that then most everything the Branch Covidians do will make sense.

I think the zealots on both sides are pretty similar.

And speaking of Branch Covidian with a smug sense of superiority...No... We just hate you phony fux and enjoy LMAO'ing at you.



And speaking of masks, you dropped yours again.

Those who moved on, never got the jab, are not zealots.

"You" on the other hand will never move on. Go on, make another thread about the song complications one suffers from getting the Rona. What next? It causes restless leg syndrome or insomnia?