Thread: DAZN stream for Joshua / Ngannou
03-08-2024, 06:58 PM
#91
You f4gg0ts knew I was going to come in and ether you MMA homosexuals.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
03-08-2024, 07:20 PM
#92
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
You f4gg0ts knew I was going to come in and ether you MMA homosexuals.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
What about Muay Thai?
The least popular out of the 3.
The golden bull art of 8 limbs Muay Thai. Yet it is not as glorious.
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:27 PM
#93
Originally Posted By RaceAware⏩
Muay Thai, on paper, would seem to be clearly the superior striking martial arts, right? After all, it's "8 limbs' vs 2.
What about Muay Thai?
The least popular out of the 3.
The golden bull art of 8 limbs Muay Thai. Yet it is not as glorious.
The least popular out of the 3.
The golden bull art of 8 limbs Muay Thai. Yet it is not as glorious.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
03-08-2024, 07:40 PM
#94
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Muay Thai, on paper, would seem to be clearly the superior striking martial arts, right? After all, it's "8 limbs' vs 2.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
Who was Somluck Kamsing? Gold medal and Mayweather got bronze.
Who was Buakaw?
GOAT thai? What about these golden bulls?
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:43 PM
#95
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Muay Thai, on paper, would seem to be clearly the superior striking martial arts, right? After all, it's "8 limbs' vs 2.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
Muay Thai is better against dogs and pitbulls.
You don't use boxing against dogs.
You use the Muay Thai kick
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:45 PM
#96
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Muay Thai, on paper, would seem to be clearly the superior striking martial arts, right? After all, it's "8 limbs' vs 2.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
But herein lies the problem with viewing it from this angle. No matter how many limbs/weapons you use, the weak spot of the human body remains the chin, temple, and jaw. The place most easily and most conveniently reached by your fists.
The nakmuay has the exact same weakness as the pure boxer. The boxer is way more skilled at reaching the chin, jaw, and temple with his fist than the nakmuay with his shin, knees, and elbows.
It is no coincidence at all that the GOAT thaiboxer, Samart Payakaroon, was also a world champion in boxer, and fought muay thai in a boxing stance and his approach to a thai boxing fight as if he was a boxer.
Boxing is simply the GOAT martial arts base.
Which block is superior?
The boxing block
or
The Muay Thai block?
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:48 PM
#97
Originally Posted By RaceAware⏩
If you know muaythai, you know Samart is widely considered the GOAT. Older guys will swear it's Dieselnoi.
Who was Somluck Kamsing? Gold medal and Mayweather got bronze.
Who was Buakaw?
GOAT thai? What about these golden bulls?
Who was Buakaw?
GOAT thai? What about these golden bulls?
Buakaw is famous in the West for his K1-max days. He's no where near GOAT status. Only modern thaiboxer that is in the conversation is Saenchai. And even then, Saenchai would get eaten by the late 80s and 90s golden age thaiboxers.
Somrak Kamsing is definitely recognized as one of the GOATs, but Samart is league of his own. He's one of the 90s Golden Age thaiboxer I'm talking about, and he's the one responsible for creating Saenchai.
There's a reason why all the most feared thaiboxers are known big punchers. No thaiboxer fears "big kickers" lulz. It's always the big punchers that have everyone running around spamming teep, and clinching.
Dekkers, Coban, Anuwat, and recently, Rodtang.
03-08-2024, 07:50 PM
#98
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Dieselnoi
If you know muaythai, you know Samart is widely considered the GOAT. Older guys will swear it's Dieselnoi.
Buakaw is famous in the West for his K1-max days. He's no where near GOAT status. Only modern thaiboxer that is in the conversation is Saenchai. And even then, Saenchai would get eaten by the late 80s and 90s golden age thaiboxers.
Somrak Kamsing is definitely recognized as one of the GOATs, but Samart is league of his own. He's one of the 90s Golden Age thaiboxer I'm talking about, and he's the one responsible for creating Saenchai.
Buakaw is famous in the West for his K1-max days. He's no where near GOAT status. Only modern thaiboxer that is in the conversation is Saenchai. And even then, Saenchai would get eaten by the late 80s and 90s golden age thaiboxers.
Somrak Kamsing is definitely recognized as one of the GOATs, but Samart is league of his own. He's one of the 90s Golden Age thaiboxer I'm talking about, and he's the one responsible for creating Saenchai.
You know a lot of golden bulls, Chang.
Buakaw beat Saenchai in bareknuckles so Buakaw is superior.
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:52 PM
#99
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
If you know muaythai, you know Samart is widely considered the GOAT. Older guys will swear it's Dieselnoi.
Buakaw is famous in the West for his K1-max days. He's no where near GOAT status. Only modern thaiboxer that is in the conversation is Saenchai. And even then, Saenchai would get eaten by the late 80s and 90s golden age thaiboxers.
Somrak Kamsing is definitely recognized as one of the GOATs, but Samart is league of his own. He's one of the 90s Golden Age thaiboxer I'm talking about, and he's the one responsible for creating Saenchai.
There's a reason why all the most feared thaiboxers are known big punchers. No thaiboxer fears "big kickers" lulz. It's always the big punchers that have everyone running around spamming teep, and clinching.
Dekkers, Coban, Anuwat, and recently, Rodtang.
Buakaw is famous in the West for his K1-max days. He's no where near GOAT status. Only modern thaiboxer that is in the conversation is Saenchai. And even then, Saenchai would get eaten by the late 80s and 90s golden age thaiboxers.
Somrak Kamsing is definitely recognized as one of the GOATs, but Samart is league of his own. He's one of the 90s Golden Age thaiboxer I'm talking about, and he's the one responsible for creating Saenchai.
There's a reason why all the most feared thaiboxers are known big punchers. No thaiboxer fears "big kickers" lulz. It's always the big punchers that have everyone running around spamming teep, and clinching.
Dekkers, Coban, Anuwat, and recently, Rodtang.
Jon Jones vs Anthony Joshua in the UFC. Who would win?
I will say AJ is superior aesthetically.
AJ has superior facial aesthetics.
AJ has superior english accent
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 07:59 PM
#100
Originally Posted By RaceAware⏩
Jon Jones wins because Jon Jones actually trains MMA. This is an unfair question that is set up for the boxer to fail. It's a dishonest leading question.
Jon Jones vs Anthony Joshua in the UFC. Who would win?
I will say AJ is superior aesthetically.
AJ has superior facial aesthetics.
AJ has superior english accent
I will say AJ is superior aesthetically.
AJ has superior facial aesthetics.
AJ has superior english accent
The proper question should be:
"Given the same amount of time to train MMA, who would win an MMA fight, AJ or Jon Jones?"
We know Anthony Joshua is the more athletic one. We know Anthony Joshua is the bigger man. We know Anthony Joshua is the faster man. We know Anthony Joshua is the more powerful man.
So if we allowed him the same amount of time to train take down defense, submission defense, and learn to check leg kicks (all of these skills are VASTLY easier to learn and master than high level boxing, something Anthony Joshua has shown to be capable of reaching), who do you honestly think would win an MMA match?
It's like asking, "Who would win a game of 1v1 basketball, the 6'4, longer, faster, more athletic guy, but he's never played basketball in his life, or the 5'7 manlet with mad handles who's been playing ball his whole life?"
Well, the answer is obvious. It's the manlet. Because he actually plays the damn sport. But every objective person knows the 6'4 lanklet has far more physical talent for basketball, is far more physically gifted for the sport of basketball, far higher potential and skill ceiling, and if given enough time to practice, would completely shut down the manlet.
03-08-2024, 08:03 PM
#101
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Jon Jones wins because Jon Jones actually trains MMA. This is an unfair question that is set up for the boxer to fail. It's a dishonest leading question.
The proper question should be:
"Given the same amount of time to train MMA, who would win an MMA fight, AJ or Jon Jones?"
We know Anthony Joshua is the more athletic one. We know Anthony Joshua is the bigger man. We know Anthony Joshua is the faster man. We know Anthony Joshua is the more powerful man.
So if we allowed him the same amount of time to train take down defense, submission defense, and learn to check leg kicks (all of these skills are VASTLY easier to learn and master than high level boxing, something Anthony Joshua has shown to be capable of reaching), who do you honestly think would win an MMA match?
It's like asking, "Who would win a game of 1v1 basketball, the 6'4, longer, faster, more athletic guy, but he's never played basketball in his life, or the 5'7 manlet with mad handles who's been playing ball his whole life?"
Well, the answer is obvious. It's the manlet. Because he actually plays the damn sport. But every objective person knows the 6'4 lanklet has far more physical talent for basketball, is far more physically gifted for the sport of basketball, far higher potential and skill ceiling, and if given enough time to practice, would completely shut down the manlet.
The proper question should be:
"Given the same amount of time to train MMA, who would win an MMA fight, AJ or Jon Jones?"
We know Anthony Joshua is the more athletic one. We know Anthony Joshua is the bigger man. We know Anthony Joshua is the faster man. We know Anthony Joshua is the more powerful man.
So if we allowed him the same amount of time to train take down defense, submission defense, and learn to check leg kicks (all of these skills are VASTLY easier to learn and master than high level boxing, something Anthony Joshua has shown to be capable of reaching), who do you honestly think would win an MMA match?
It's like asking, "Who would win a game of 1v1 basketball, the 6'4, longer, faster, more athletic guy, but he's never played basketball in his life, or the 5'7 manlet with mad handles who's been playing ball his whole life?"
Well, the answer is obvious. It's the manlet. Because he actually plays the damn sport. But every objective person knows the 6'4 lanklet has far more physical talent for basketball, is far more physically gifted for the sport of basketball, far higher potential and skill ceiling, and if given enough time to practice, would completely shut down the manlet.
I've always thought that Anthony Joshua is the Zyzz of boxing.
Jon Jones and Anthony Joshua to me are not even black.
Jon Jones and Anthony Joshua are white people in black mans body.
Who is whiter?
Jon Jones or Anthony Joshua?
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 08:04 PM
#102
Fury let Ngannou knock him down to create hype for a rematch. He was never serious about being the greatest and was always about money
03-08-2024, 08:06 PM
#103
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
It’s not about genetics it’s the fact Ngannou’s defense couldn’t cut it against Aj. Aj broke right through his guard & hit him with picture perfect right hands. Aj has been boxing almost his whole life. Ngannou had no chance. Idk how the misc can turn this into a “genetics” argument. If Ngannou was the one who grew up boxing & Aj the MMA fighter Ngannou would have sent Aj to the Shadow realm the same way. If Ngannou hit Aj the same way he would have been out simple as that. These MMA guys need to stop thinking they can box. Theirs levels to this ****. Some of these guys have been boxing & perfecting their craft their whole life.
You f4gg0ts knew I was going to come in and ether you MMA homosexuals.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
I've always said, there's genetic levels to the sports.
What MMA bums think of as titanium chin and destructive knockout power is seen as average in boxing. Boxing is a deeper sport with a far, far, far deeper talent pool.
Ngannou is only a monster puncher in MMA. His chin is only diamond in MMA.
Now you know why Ngannou never made it as a pro boxer and had to transition to MMA, because it was the easier sport to become world champion. And within a few years, with his rudimentary boxing skill, and enough time to learn take down defense, he managed to become the most feared MMA HW champion in its history.
In boxing, he couldn't make it out of the 2nd round without suffering major brain damage from an actual boxer who can punch. No, NOT MMA punch. BOXING PUNCH.
Ngannou can eat punches from bums like Cyril Ganes, Stipe Miocic, Derrick Lewis, Alistair Overeem, all day, all night, never flinch, never get knocked down, never get knocked out.
But you see, there's LEVELS to this chit. In boxing, getting punched by a genetically superior freak like Anthony Joshua is something else entirely, as you can see.
You MMA bums were deceived by how close the Fury fight was, because you lack insight into the fight game. Just like how Mcgregor chose Mayweather, Ngannou chose Fury for the exact same reason: it was a safe fight because they knew they were going up against a feather fisted boxer who couldn't hurt them. Thus, this gave the (false) impression that those boxing matches were closer then they actually are.
In reality, high IQ people who know the fight game like me, knew that despite the fight LOOKING close to the eyes of the normies, McGregor would never, ever beat Mayweather. 100/100 times, he would lose. And Ngannou, despite the fluke knockdown, was never beating Fury, 100/100 times, Fury would edge that fight out.
This is what separates the elites from the pretenders in combat sports. It's not something glaringly big and obvious. No, it's always the small details, the intangibles, the .5%, that separates whether you are world champion elite, or just another journeyman.
Had Mcgregor gone up against an actual puncher in his first boxing fight, he would have gone to sleep like Ngannou did.
Boxing will forever remain the superior sport, because it attracts the superior physical specimen of the world. MMA will always get the left over rejects who couldn't cut it in boxing.
BRUTAL black pill.
Besides in the genetics argument Ngannou is more of a freak. Aj was built in the gym, Ngannou is naturally just huge. The guy even came in heavier than Aj & still ripped. I even think Ngannou has the better chin. Aj has been rocked by small cruiser weights like Usyk. Aj’s technique is just levels above Ngannous. Anybody Wilder, Fury, Prime Mike ect.. would have took that overhand flush on the chin they would have been out no questions asked.
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03-08-2024, 08:10 PM
#104
Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
Fury let Ngannou knock him down to create hype for a rematch. He was never serious about being the greatest and was always about money
This is maximum copium.
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03-08-2024, 08:12 PM
#105
Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
you completely missed the point of that post.
It’s not about genetics it’s the fact Ngannou’s defense couldn’t cut it against Aj. Aj broke right through his guard & hit him with picture perfect right hands. Aj has been boxing almost his whole life. Ngannou had no chance. Idk how the misc can turn this into a “genetics” argument. If Ngannou was the one who grew up boxing & Aj the MMA fighter Ngannou would have sent Aj to the Shadow realm the same way. If Ngannou hit Aj the same way he would have been out simple as that. These MMA guys need to stop thinking they can box. Theirs levels to this ****. Some of these guys have been boxing & perfecting their craft their whole life.
I never talked skill. I was talking purely physical talent of combat sport.
That's punching power, and punch resilience, aka CHIN.
I clearly highlighted how boxing's deeper talent pool (due to way bigger prize money) allows it to siphon all the top combat talent of the world. And through the natural course of competition, the cream rises to the top.
The cream at the top of the boxing world is simply of a higher quality than the trash that rises to the top in MMA.
This boxing fight clearly demonstrates that.
Ngannou as touted as having nuclear knockout power who put the majority of the MMA guys to sleep, and how his chin is titanium, due to the fact that he has never been hurt even once in MMA, despite the "MUH 4 OZ GLOVES LMAO".
Ngannou got absolutely fkn starched in under 2 rounds, and the one guy he knocked down(Fury), comfortably got up and beat him by decision, unlike the MMA bums he absolutely kills with a single punch. There's levels to the two sports, and it's separated by physical talent.
03-08-2024, 08:15 PM
#106
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Punch resistance has a lot to do with defense bro. Have you ever even box’d in your life? You seriously think if Ngannou hit Aj with a flush right hand with perfect technique that Aj wouldn’t have been slept?
you completely missed the point of that post.
I never talked skill. I was talking purely physical talent of combat sport.
That's punching power, and punch resilience, aka CHIN.
I clearly highlighted how boxing's deeper talent pool (due to way bigger prize money) allows it to siphon all the top combat talent of the world. And through the natural course of competition, the cream rises to the top.
The cream at the top of the boxing world is simply of a higher quality than the trash that rises to the top in MMA.
This boxing fight clearly demonstrates that.
Ngannou as touted as having nuclear knockout power who put the majority of the MMA guys to sleep, and how his chin is titanium, due to the fact that he has never been hurt even once in MMA, despite the "MUH 4 OZ GLOVES LMAO".
Ngannou got absolutely fkn starched in under 2 rounds, and the one guy he knocked down(Fury), comfortably got up and beat him by decision, unlike the MMA bums he absolutely kills with a single punch. There's levels to the two sports, and it's separated by physical talent.
I never talked skill. I was talking purely physical talent of combat sport.
That's punching power, and punch resilience, aka CHIN.
I clearly highlighted how boxing's deeper talent pool (due to way bigger prize money) allows it to siphon all the top combat talent of the world. And through the natural course of competition, the cream rises to the top.
The cream at the top of the boxing world is simply of a higher quality than the trash that rises to the top in MMA.
This boxing fight clearly demonstrates that.
Ngannou as touted as having nuclear knockout power who put the majority of the MMA guys to sleep, and how his chin is titanium, due to the fact that he has never been hurt even once in MMA, despite the "MUH 4 OZ GLOVES LMAO".
Ngannou got absolutely fkn starched in under 2 rounds, and the one guy he knocked down(Fury), comfortably got up and beat him by decision, unlike the MMA bums he absolutely kills with a single punch. There's levels to the two sports, and it's separated by physical talent.
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03-08-2024, 08:16 PM
#107
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
you completely missed the point of that post.
I never talked skill. I was talking purely physical talent of combat sport.
That's punching power, and punch resilience, aka CHIN.
I clearly highlighted how boxing's deeper talent pool (due to way bigger prize money) allows it to siphon all the top combat talent of the world. And through the natural course of competition, the cream rises to the top.
The cream at the top of the boxing world is simply of a higher quality than the trash that rises to the top in MMA.
This boxing fight clearly demonstrates that.
Ngannou as touted as having nuclear knockout power who put the majority of the MMA guys to sleep, and how his chin is titanium, due to the fact that he has never been hurt even once in MMA, despite the "MUH 4 OZ GLOVES LMAO".
Ngannou got absolutely fkn starched in under 2 rounds, and the one guy he knocked down(Fury), comfortably got up and beat him by decision, unlike the MMA bums he absolutely kills with a single punch. There's levels to the two sports, and it's separated by physical talent.
I never talked skill. I was talking purely physical talent of combat sport.
That's punching power, and punch resilience, aka CHIN.
I clearly highlighted how boxing's deeper talent pool (due to way bigger prize money) allows it to siphon all the top combat talent of the world. And through the natural course of competition, the cream rises to the top.
The cream at the top of the boxing world is simply of a higher quality than the trash that rises to the top in MMA.
This boxing fight clearly demonstrates that.
Ngannou as touted as having nuclear knockout power who put the majority of the MMA guys to sleep, and how his chin is titanium, due to the fact that he has never been hurt even once in MMA, despite the "MUH 4 OZ GLOVES LMAO".
Ngannou got absolutely fkn starched in under 2 rounds, and the one guy he knocked down(Fury), comfortably got up and beat him by decision, unlike the MMA bums he absolutely kills with a single punch. There's levels to the two sports, and it's separated by physical talent.
Don't forget AJ is Olympic Gold Medalist
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 08:27 PM
#108
Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
nice midwit take that exposes your lack of experience in combat sport.
Punch resistance has a lot to do with defense bro. Have you ever even box’d in your life? You seriously think if Ngannou hit Aj with a flush right hand with perfect technique that Aj wouldn’t have been slept?
Nobody is talking defensive technique, you retard. We are talking raw chin.
When all your defense fails, and you inevitably get hit flush, your chin is what determines whether you shrug that chit off, or get KO'd into the shadow realm.
Antonio Margarito, Marvin Hagler, Triple G, Canelo, Mayweather, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, David Tua, just to name a few, these are all genetic freaks with titanium chin.
YDKSAB
03-08-2024, 08:35 PM
#109
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
All of them would have got ktfo if that same punch landed on them by a guy who could crack like Aj. Ngannou got hit flush af, by an overhand by one of the hardest hitters in heavy weight. & Ngannou had his mouth open to top it all off. He didn’t roll with the punch or anything just got hit square in the chin. Your arguments are stupid bro. Get in the boxing ring & enough with the crap. I’ve seen top tier genetic guys get the breaks beat off of them simply by guys who were more skilled, & understood boxing fundamentals better. Not everybody can punch because they don’t know how to, not everybody can take a punch cause they lack the defense. Like Ngannou. He could get away with taking those shots by pillow fisted Fury, but Aj bombed on him. Aj was on point good solid defense & movement
nice midwit take that exposes your lack of experience in combat sport.
Nobody is talking defensive technique, you retard. We are talking raw chin.
When all your defense fails, and you inevitably get hit flush, your chin is what determines whether you shrug that chit off, or get KO'd into the shadow realm.
Antonio Margarito, Marvin Hagler, Triple G, Canelo, Mayweather, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, David Tua, just to name a few, these are all genetic freaks with titanium chin.
YDKSAB
Nobody is talking defensive technique, you retard. We are talking raw chin.
When all your defense fails, and you inevitably get hit flush, your chin is what determines whether you shrug that chit off, or get KO'd into the shadow realm.
Antonio Margarito, Marvin Hagler, Triple G, Canelo, Mayweather, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, David Tua, just to name a few, these are all genetic freaks with titanium chin.
YDKSAB
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03-08-2024, 08:42 PM
#110
Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
so all it would take is for me to post a single video of a heavyweight taking a flushing shot to the jaw, and remain standing, to prove how stupid you are, correct?
All of them would have got ktfo if that same punch landed on them by a guy who could crack like Aj. Ngannou got hit flush af, by an overhand by one of the hardest hitters in heavy weight. & Ngannou had his mouth open to top it all off. He didn’t roll with the punch or anything just got hit square in the chin. Your arguments are stupid bro. Get in the boxing ring & enough with the crap. I’ve seen top tier genetic guys get the breaks beat off of them simply by guys who were more skilled, & understood boxing fundamentals better. Not everybody can punch because they don’t know how to, not everybody can take a punch cause they lack the defense. Like Ngannou. He could get away with taking those shots by pillow fisted Fury, but Aj bombed on him. Aj was on point good solid defense & movement
your stance is textbook midwit take from a guy who just started combat sports who's in love and romanticizes fighting and violence as something that is purely skill based, when in reality, fighting is determined by genetics of the body and mind.
if you honestly truly don't believe that a great chin (much like raw 1 punch KO power) is genetic, you're braindead retard who needs to consume more combat sports.
03-08-2024, 08:49 PM
#111
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
Yeah maybe for lower weight classes but in Heavyweight, that really doesn't apply. Everyone can knock everyone out with a perfect shot like that no matter how great your chin is.
nice midwit take that exposes your lack of experience in combat sport.
Nobody is talking defensive technique, you retard. We are talking raw chin.
When all your defense fails, and you inevitably get hit flush, your chin is what determines whether you shrug that chit off, or get KO'd into the shadow realm.
Antonio Margarito, Marvin Hagler, Triple G, Canelo, Mayweather, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, David Tua, just to name a few, these are all genetic freaks with titanium chin.
YDKSAB
Nobody is talking defensive technique, you retard. We are talking raw chin.
When all your defense fails, and you inevitably get hit flush, your chin is what determines whether you shrug that chit off, or get KO'd into the shadow realm.
Antonio Margarito, Marvin Hagler, Triple G, Canelo, Mayweather, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, David Tua, just to name a few, these are all genetic freaks with titanium chin.
YDKSAB
03-08-2024, 08:49 PM
#112
https://tenor.com/view/canelo-canelo...g-gif-25612651
was this "technique" or raw chin, you absolute retard?
https://tenor.com/view/canelo-canelo...z-gif-25371424 was this also the vaunted "lean into left hook and eat it flush" also a magical technique, you retard?
https://tenor.com/view/canelo-alvare...n-gif-12489382 another magical defensive technique, in which Canelo eats a flush overhand right to the temple/back of the head, you retard?
https://tenor.com/view/maidana-chino...r-gif-25371711 When Mayweather leaned into an over hand right from Maidana, which sent Mayweather's tooth literally flying to the front row, was that Mayweather demonstrating his world famous defense, or demonstrating his all time great chin?
again, you don't know chit about boxing, stop posting romanticized, first day in the gym, bullchit about how everything is technique.
https://tenor.com/view/canelo-canelo...z-gif-25371424 was this also the vaunted "lean into left hook and eat it flush" also a magical technique, you retard?
https://tenor.com/view/canelo-alvare...n-gif-12489382 another magical defensive technique, in which Canelo eats a flush overhand right to the temple/back of the head, you retard?
https://tenor.com/view/maidana-chino...r-gif-25371711 When Mayweather leaned into an over hand right from Maidana, which sent Mayweather's tooth literally flying to the front row, was that Mayweather demonstrating his world famous defense, or demonstrating his all time great chin?
again, you don't know chit about boxing, stop posting romanticized, first day in the gym, bullchit about how everything is technique.
03-08-2024, 08:51 PM
#113
Poor francis
but lets not forget who the real goat is who beat this guy who is much larger, 2x.
but lets not forget who the real goat is who beat this guy who is much larger, 2x.
Doordasher crew (SRS)
Bidet Crew
Nissan Versa 2023 crew
Bald crew
03-08-2024, 08:51 PM
#114
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
so all it would take is for me to post a single video of a heavyweight taking a flushing shot to the jaw, and remain standing, to prove how stupid you are, correct?
your stance is textbook midwit take from a guy who just started combat sports who's in love and romanticizes fighting and violence as something that is purely skill based, when in reality, fighting is determined by genetics of the body and mind.
if you honestly truly don't believe that a great chin (much like raw 1 punch KO power) is genetic, you're braindead retard who needs to consume more combat sports.
your stance is textbook midwit take from a guy who just started combat sports who's in love and romanticizes fighting and violence as something that is purely skill based, when in reality, fighting is determined by genetics of the body and mind.
if you honestly truly don't believe that a great chin (much like raw 1 punch KO power) is genetic, you're braindead retard who needs to consume more combat sports.
ChangGang is right.
That is why there are weight classes.
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 08:52 PM
#115
Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
except this simply isn't true.
Yeah maybe for lower weight classes but in Heavyweight, that really doesn't apply. Everyone can knock everyone out with a perfect shot like that no matter how great your chin is.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
03-08-2024, 08:54 PM
#116
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
except this simply isn't true.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
And watch Floyd Mayweather vs that jew Bob Arum
That jew Bob Arum
Lulzy I am a miscer after all
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 08:57 PM
#117
Originally Posted By RaceAware⏩
Mayweather ate back to back haymakers from Shane Mosley, and didn't go down. FLUSH haymakers. Wobbled the chit out of Mayweather, but Mayweather's diamond chin saved his ass.
And watch Floyd Mayweather vs that jew Bob Arum
That jew Bob Arum
Lulzy I am a miscer after all
That jew Bob Arum
Lulzy I am a miscer after all
https://gifs.com/gif/41-floyd-maywea...sley-hd-W7n78o
"chin is all technique guys" fkn LULZ PEAK midwit boxing take.
03-08-2024, 09:00 PM
#118
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
except this simply isn't true.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Micky Ward vs Arturo Gatti
The slugfest
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 09:02 PM
#119
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
except this simply isn't true.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
It seems to me Muay Thai guys are better at taking strikes.
Whereas boxers are better at dodging.
Which style is superior?
Muay Thai or Boxing?
There is a racial explaination for everything.
03-08-2024, 09:24 PM
#120
Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
except this simply isn't true.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Watch David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi. They set a combined record for most power punches thrown and LANDED in a single fight, with neither guy even getting knocked down, forget knocked out.
Watch Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman and look at the ungodly amount of flush power shot they both took without falling.
Watch Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis in their second fight, in which McCall was suffering from a mental breakdown, and decided he was just going to eat a bunch of flush power shot from a 6'6 behemoth and one of the all time strongest puncher ever in Lewis. McCall never went down.
Watch George Chuvalo eat George Foreman's best shot and never went down.
You guys really don't know chit about boxing.
Chang,
What do you think about Travis Roesler?
Let me tell you what I think.
This guy has superhuman reflexes. He's better than most pros. Yet he is not a pro. He is the greatest boxer who is not a boxer.
Look at that dodging ability. He is superhuman for sure.
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