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03-12-2024, 08:37 PM
#91
Originally Posted By mrdot
if you look like an average guy on tinder no way you will get a match

that's why you gotta lift or have good pics to put yourself above of the rest

i never have issues with matches but the girls are all boring and basic
Just be above average bro to get below average women bro!
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03-12-2024, 08:40 PM
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Everything is skewed because of social media and apps unless maybe you are in the top 10%. I genuinely don't know how most people are meeting or having successful relationships anymore. I'm telling you this chit became extra hard mode around 2016.
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03-12-2024, 08:44 PM
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Just be above average bro to get below average women bro!
below average? I'm able to match with almost every girl i'm interested in
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03-12-2024, 08:46 PM
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Personally I've never had a problem meeting girls off Tinder. The problem males have is they are so thirsty they blow these women up with unearned attention so the only way to play the game is to let women show interest in you and put in an actual effort instead of them just using it to mine attention from simps.


this, when youre the top 10% of males like us then its easy to use tinder
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03-12-2024, 08:46 PM
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Everything is skewed because of social media and apps unless maybe you are in the top 10%. I genuinely don't know how most people are meeting or having successful relationships anymore. I'm telling you this chit became extra hard mode around 2016.

you already have a girlfriend and depending on your state you might be common law married by now
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03-12-2024, 09:03 PM
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Just be above average bro to get below average women bro!
The fact that you actually think every slightly above average guy is stuck with a below average chick shows just how out of touch with reality you are. Stop watching red pill vids and reading 4Chan.
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03-12-2024, 10:03 PM
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times have changed. it's very easy to stay a virgin for a long time.
kinda agree. especially if you're the type that comes from a close/stable family with values/honesty/religious, no tats, no drugs, etc. those types often don't have the sleaze bag mindsets to be out here just trying to hook up/risking stds with skanks. they may essentially be looking for wife material which is perhaps 1-2% of women. and if the guy is anywhere around average looking or below he could certainly be waiting a long time.
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03-13-2024, 02:06 AM
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it's never been easier to talk to girls in real life. Why? Because other men are not doing it. And it is without debate, the superior method (compared to online). In person, you remove all of the nonsense on the apps. The profiles, the swiping, messaging, abysmal response rate, trying to hold their attention, etc.

And I don't mean "cold" approach. You have to get a smile or something. But the confidence in approach, strong eye contact, and a smile, it's not that hard. Just don't be hideous. This is why you need some type of a signal.

I am telling you most young girls would be thrilled for a guy to pick up on their subtle signals and approach confidently. These younger guys… are absolute pussies.
I don’t get any cues anymore.
Girls think im still fat, they even tell me.
Im like 80kg at 6’2 im definitely not fat.

I got attention at 10% bodyfat at like 75kg.

It’s like it’s all about looks nowadays.

You don’t look like a fitness model, it’s over.
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03-13-2024, 02:51 AM
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The fact that you actually think every slightly above average guy is stuck with a below average chick shows just how out of touch with reality you are. Stop watching red pill vids and reading 4Chan.
This. I actually know a fair amount of average looking guys who landed great looking women. Because they had game and personality, plus things like confidence.

Even just reading the posts ITT you can tell that the guys who complain about getting rejected have zero confidence and game.
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03-13-2024, 03:05 AM
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i think there was one miscer with 270 hinge matches after paying and zero free shags

might have been something to do with the logistics though
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03-13-2024, 03:22 AM
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below average? I'm able to match with almost every girl i'm interested in
Then you're a Chad and don't understand the experience most men have
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03-13-2024, 03:24 AM
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The fact that you actually think every slightly above average guy is stuck with a below average chick.
Where did I say that? You're fuking retarded and constantly accusing me of chit I didn't say and don't think
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03-13-2024, 03:29 AM
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This. I actually know a fair amount of average looking guys who landed great looking women. Because they had game and personality, plus things like confidence.

Even just reading the posts ITT you can tell that the guys who complain about getting rejected have zero confidence and game.
Would love to see what these men you call average look like.

The misc loves to move the goalposts of "average" around whenever it's convenient.

For example alot of the misc has called ME average looking, then will also say men who look way better than me average.

Last sentence is pure 'just world ' cope, choosing a narrative that allows you to think the dating game is fair when its very obviously largely based on superficial chit nobody can control. But for some reason miscers will deny this to make themselves feel better
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03-13-2024, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Would love to see what these men you call average look like.

The misc loves to move the goalposts of "average" around whenever it's convenient.

For example alot of the misc has called ME average looking, then will also say men who look way better than me average.

Last sentence is pure 'just world ' cope, choosing a narrative that allows you to think the dating game is fair when its very obviously largely based on superficial chit nobody can control. But for some reason miscers will deny this to make themselves feel better
Of course it's not fair, I never said it was. But if it's a game, then you need to learn how to play it.

I'm a 49 year old guy in decent shape. Probably about a 7 overall in my demographic because I'm tall, in good shape, have all my hair, interesting hobbies, etc. Like I said previously, I can probably upload Tinder today and match with a girl I could date this weekend. Is she going to be a stunning model? Hell, no. She's going to be a 6 that is probably my age or slightly younger/older and wants to meet someone. So I text her, set up a date if she's not crazy or a catfish and smash her within 2-3 dates without an issue. I've done it dozens of times, which is why I know I can do it anytime I like. If I didn't have a long term girlfriend currently I'd probably do it and post it just to prove I could.

The cope ITT by a lot of guys is that they think if they are a 5, they are going to get any matches at all except with women at their level - which they reject because for whatever reason they think they should be landing hotter women. If you're a 5, realize that your options are fewer and either stop complaining or improve your looks and game to be able to take it up a couple of tiers. You might not be able to affect height, but you can affect things like confidence, personality and seduction skills.

Most guys need to stop complaining and learn how to play the game.
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03-13-2024, 03:44 AM
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Of course it's not fair, I never said it was. But if it's a game, then you need to learn how to play it.

I'm a 49 year old guy in decent shape. Probably about a 7 overall in my demographic because I'm tall, in good shape, have all my hair, interesting hobbies, etc.e.
Lol. Tall white guy from a previous generation thinks its all about game and confidence.

No wonder you're clueless.

If you think its all about game and confidence, then you are calling it fair because those are things everyone can do. The problem with dating is that it isn't based on those things. Your options are based on how you look including your height and your face and your race.


If you think you could switch bodies with me and get the the same or remotely similar results you're a fool
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03-13-2024, 03:48 AM
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Most men work, have stability, can provide for themselves. Most on apps are just trolling for sex.

Most women don't work or barely work, are not financially stable. Divorced fat single moms looking for a beta provider.

Dating apps reflect this. Of course guys will toss in a little money, they are looking for an easy lay.
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03-13-2024, 03:58 AM
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Lol. Tall white guy from a previous generation thinks its all about game and confidence.

No wonder you're clueless.

If you think its all about game and confidence, then you are calling it fair because those are things everyone can do. The problem with dating is that it isn't based on those things. Your options are based on how you look including your height and your face and your race.


If you think you could switch bodies with me and get the the same or remotely similar results you're a fool
Nowhere did I say it was all about game and confidence, I said that if the deck is stacked against you physically those things can help you get further up the ladder.

If I switched bodies with you I guarantee I'd get better results than you currently are complaining about because I have the other pieces in place.
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03-13-2024, 03:59 AM
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Okay
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03-13-2024, 04:02 AM
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OP you sound like my wife. She keeps telling me to stop using them too.
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03-13-2024, 04:13 AM
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i think there was one miscer with 270 hinge matches after paying and zero free shags

might have been something to do with the logistics though

Matches in an of themselves don't mean chit. Here's how the scale works with a given chick:


No match = 0 points
Match = 0 points
Meet them 1x = 1 point
Meet them multiple times = 2 points
Bang them = 5 points
Get a legit gf who is actually wife material = contgrats, you've won the dating app lottery
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03-13-2024, 04:19 AM
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I get laid all of the time from bumble and tinder so why would I get off of them?! Makes no sense. I can legit bang a new girl every week just about from them. Every 2 weeks at the most
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03-13-2024, 04:24 AM
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threads interesting but confusing. not as doomer. but my problem is. i dont want to take photos doing stupid **** like holding a bird or pretending to have stupid hobbies. the way i look at it, its about your face and should just be photos where you look good.
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03-13-2024, 04:27 AM
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I don’t get any cues anymore.
Girls think im still fat, they even tell me.
Im like 80kg at 6’2 im definitely not fat.

I got attention at 10% bodyfat at like 75kg.

It’s like it’s all about looks nowadays.

You don’t look like a fitness model, it’s over.
so you're only 11lbs away from slayer status

time to cut, porky
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03-13-2024, 04:28 AM
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Unless you are chad, you really gotta put in work into your profile. I didnt have success until I pretty much made every single picture I have on there specifically for that purpose. And even then its a grind. Lots of matches and chats that lead to no where.
Usually after 6 weeks Im burned out. But at that point I had several dates and 2-4 hookups. Right now Im dating a girl from Tinder, seems more like a F+ but its fun, so taking a break from Apps now.

If you are more into casual dating, age is also a factor. Im 31, I noticed a big drop off in likes, compared to my late 20s. Alot of girls sub 25 filtered your age range out, so you you dont even come across them. The older ones are usually more into something serious, so its a difficult age if you just want to have fun.
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03-13-2024, 04:31 AM
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I have adopted the waitpill. Just sit back and watch the system collapse.

The amount of men giving up is growing at an extremely fast, and alarming rate. There was forecasted data from about 5 years ago that projected over 45% of women would be single and childless by 2030 (25-44yo) I bet if you found the data now we are probably getting there a bit sooner.

The women will absolutely cave before men, and you are already starting to see some of these trends emerge like the "tradwife" meme

The funniest part about the tradwife meme though is how out of touch with reality these women are. They seem to think zoomers or millenials can, and will provide them with a home with enough acreage for livestock, that they will be able to support 3 children, and the mom will stay at home doing nothing while the male provides the entirety of the income. Their head is somewhat in the right place, but its not 1950 and these women aren't virgins with good fathers, and a church that would shame them. Not quite the same environment of economic prosperity and cultural values.

Best strategy for men who aren't successful in online dating is to just give up and wait. I can almost guarantee women are going to collectively agree to start asking men out here soon. You wont have to approach them in the grocery store. They will approach you and you can set the demands.
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03-13-2024, 04:35 AM
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I have adopted the waitpill. Just sit back and watch the system collapse.

The amount of men giving up is growing at an extremely fast, and alarming rate. There was forecasted data from about 5 years ago that projected over 45% of women would be single and childless by 2030 (25-44yo) I bet if you found the data now we are probably getting there a bit sooner.

The women will absolutely cave before men, and you are already starting to see some of these trends emerge like the "tradwife" meme

The funniest part about the tradwife meme though is how out of touch with reality these women are. They seem to think zoomers or millenials can, and will provide them with a home with enough acreage for livestock, that they will be able to support 3 children, and the mom will stay at home doing nothing while the male provides the entirety of the income. Their head is somewhat in the right place, but its not 1950 and these women aren't virgins with good fathers, and a church that would shame them. Not quite the same environment of economic prosperity and cultural values.

Best strategy for men who aren't successful in online dating is to just give up and wait. I can almost guarantee women are going to collectively agree to start asking men out here soon. You wont have to approach them in the grocery store. They will approach you and you can set the demands.
interesting take. talk more about this. who says this, ive never heard this.
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03-13-2024, 04:37 AM
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Unless you are chad, you really gotta put in work into your profile. I didnt have success until I pretty much made every single picture I have on there specifically for that purpose. And even then its a grind. Lots of matches and chats that lead to no where.
Usually after 6 weeks Im burned out. But at that point I had several dates and 2-4 hookups. Right now Im dating a girl from Tinder, seems more like a F+ but its fun, so taking a break from Apps now.

If you are more into casual dating, age is also a factor. Im 31, I noticed a big drop off in likes, compared to my late 20s. Alot of girls sub 25 filtered your age range out, so you you dont even come across them. The older ones are usually more into something serious, so its a difficult age if you just want to have fun.

The apps are terrible for dealing with older women (25+ years old is ancient for women on the apps) is that they insist on knowing every last fkn thing about you on day 1 of meeting them, and they treat it like they're giving you a damn job interview. Then they'll disqualify you and ghost based on the most ridiculous chit, like your dream travel destination didn't match theirs, or you like different music.
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03-13-2024, 04:41 AM
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I have adopted the waitpill. Just sit back and watch the system collapse.

The amount of men giving up is growing at an extremely fast, and alarming rate. There was forecasted data from about 5 years ago that projected over 45% of women would be single and childless by 2030 (25-44yo) I bet if you found the data now we are probably getting there a bit sooner.

The women will absolutely cave before men, and you are already starting to see some of these trends emerge like the "tradwife" meme

The funniest part about the tradwife meme though is how out of touch with reality these women are. They seem to think zoomers or millenials can, and will provide them with a home with enough acreage for livestock, that they will be able to support 3 children, and the mom will stay at home doing nothing while the male provides the entirety of the income. Their head is somewhat in the right place, but its not 1950 and these women aren't virgins with good fathers, and a church that would shame them. Not quite the same environment of economic prosperity and cultural values.

Best strategy for men who aren't successful in online dating is to just give up and wait. I can almost guarantee women are going to collectively agree to start asking men out here soon. You wont have to approach them in the grocery store. They will approach you and you can set the demands.
This is already somewhat true in the older demographic. When a man becomes about 45-50 the onus shifts onto the men becoming more in demand because women are afraid of being alone. Especially if they are divorced and have kids that are leaving the nest. If the guy is wealthy it's ridiculous the amount of hot women (relative to age) who will approach and basically agree to anything just to have security.

There are also a lot of wealthy women who will deal with train wrecks of men just to have companionship.
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03-13-2024, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Parkerscott
I have adopted the waitpill. Just sit back and watch the system collapse.

The amount of men giving up is growing at an extremely fast, and alarming rate. There was forecasted data from about 5 years ago that projected over 45% of women would be single and childless by 2030 (25-44yo) I bet if you found the data now we are probably getting there a bit sooner.

The women will absolutely cave before men, and you are already starting to see some of these trends emerge like the "tradwife" meme

The funniest part about the tradwife meme though is how out of touch with reality these women are. They seem to think zoomers or millenials can, and will provide them with a home with enough acreage for livestock, that they will be able to support 3 children, and the mom will stay at home doing nothing while the male provides the entirety of the income. Their head is somewhat in the right place, but its not 1950 and these women aren't virgins with good fathers, and a church that would shame them. Not quite the same environment of economic prosperity and cultural values.

Best strategy for men who aren't successful in online dating is to just give up and wait. I can almost guarantee women are going to collectively agree to start asking men out here soon. You wont have to approach them in the grocery store. They will approach you and you can set the demands.
Any eta? 2050?
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03-13-2024, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Parkerscott
I have adopted the waitpill. Just sit back and watch the system collapse.

The amount of men giving up is growing at an extremely fast, and alarming rate. There was forecasted data from about 5 years ago that projected over 45% of women would be single and childless by 2030 (25-44yo) I bet if you found the data now we are probably getting there a bit sooner.

The women will absolutely cave before men, and you are already starting to see some of these trends emerge like the "tradwife" meme

The funniest part about the tradwife meme though is how out of touch with reality these women are. They seem to think zoomers or millenials can, and will provide them with a home with enough acreage for livestock, that they will be able to support 3 children, and the mom will stay at home doing nothing while the male provides the entirety of the income. Their head is somewhat in the right place, but its not 1950 and these women aren't virgins with good fathers, and a church that would shame them. Not quite the same environment of economic prosperity and cultural values.

Best strategy for men who aren't successful in online dating is to just give up and wait. I can almost guarantee women are going to collectively agree to start asking men out here soon. You wont have to approach them in the grocery store. They will approach you and you can set the demands.
for sure many good men are giving up forcing it and letting nature take its course

desperate men/simps and guys just looking to fk keep max swiping
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