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post 1699512503 03-21-2024, 10:57 AM
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I really don't trust anything the 'experts' say anymore. IF itself is literally just skipping a meal/eating in a shorter window of time. It works for some people. It doesn't for others. I really don't see how all of a sudden it causes cardiovascular problems. Its literally just eating less food throughout the day.


For me my metabolism is too fast and my digestive system just doesn't like it. I can't eat large quantities of food in a short amount of time. I lose too much weight/can't get enough calories in. My girlfriends metabolism seems to slow down/become less efficient if she does IF or OMAD.


We both respond better on 5-6 small meals per day. With that said. I recognize its extremely effective for a lot of people.
post 1699512723 03-21-2024, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
What next, it's healthy to have coffee first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach?
I do that every day. Double espresso
post 1699512763 03-21-2024, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
If a surgeon was about to work on you at 1700hrs, you'd be fine with the fact that he hasn't eaten anything or drank any water for 10 hrs, and he's been up before sunrise, so he could eat?
Why do you keep trying to suggest IF excludes water?

You realize some surgeries can take many hours and they don't eat while operating, yeah?
post 1699512923 03-21-2024, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Why do you keep trying to suggest IF excludes water?

You realize some surgeries can take many hours and they don't eat while operating, yeah?
Like I said, context matters.

I think I'd prefer a guy who is metabolically used to working with low glucose or even just fit enough to switch in and out of ketosis for fuel, Vs some guy who after a few hours gets shaky, hangry and glucose-starved while operating and not able to grab a snickers or happy meal to re-fuel.
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post 1699521893 03-21-2024, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I do that every day. Double espresso
Shocking......
post 1699521933 03-21-2024, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Why do you keep trying to suggest IF excludes water?

You realize some surgeries can take many hours and they don't eat while operating, yeah?
I'd rather have a surgeon who wasn't hungry, or dehydrated to be working on me during a surgery.
post 1699523323 03-21-2024, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
I'd rather have a surgeon who wasn't hungry, or dehydrated to be working on me during a surgery.
Good to know.
post 1699525603 03-21-2024, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Good to know.
You wouldn't?
post 1699525663 03-21-2024, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You wouldn't?
I have no idea where or why that would happen.
post 1699525763 03-21-2024, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You wouldn't?
Would want more context.

Length of surgery? Why is he/she thirsty? Drink some water.

As for hunger, I can go a day and only feel hunger once and not particularly strong hunger. Someone else might be starving the second they wake up.

I would not want someone hungry operating on me, but is that necessarily the one who didn't eat prior? What if it's a long surgery, the doctor ate some before but because they're used to eating every few hours, they are starved with hunger before the operation is complete?

Would you rather have a doctor perform a 6 hour major surgery on you who will be ravenous by hour 4, or one who did not eat prior but does not get very hungry because they are very used to it? (either way, they've both drank water)
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post 1699526103 03-21-2024, 05:27 PM
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so these things cause myocarditis:

jacking off after 11 pm
cold showers
too many computer games
sneezing too hard

but before the "vaccine" rollout nobody even heard the word myocarditis unless you were a doctor.
post 1699526483 03-21-2024, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By messomi
so these things cause myocarditis:

jacking off after 11 pm
cold showers
too many computer games
sneezing too hard

but before the "vaccine" rollout nobody even heard the word myocarditis unless you were a doctor.
That's not accurate.

Myocarditis has been a thing for a very long time. Most common in young, otherwise healthy, males.

I was in the ICU with myocarditis in 2013. Long before COVID and COVID vaccines were things
post 1699526703 03-21-2024, 05:43 PM
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post 1699526763 03-21-2024, 05:45 PM
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post 1699526823 03-21-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
My dad got myocarditis in like 2004 after a strep infection. He got the Covid vaccine and his doctor never told him that people who had myocarditis shouldn't get it.
Probably because that's not true.
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