08-28-2024, 02:54 PM
#91
Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
I'm not missing out on playing a junkyard PC that barely runs games better than my Ps5.
Looks like you are missing out tbh
Bro I have been a gamer since the ps2 days and once I got a pc, I never looked back.
Sure I may have owned a xbox and ps4 (and also a ps3 during covid), but to me consoles are a novelty compared to pc gaming
Also pc gamers are more mature compared to consoles, too many kiddies on consoles imo
Pc gamers are more than half compared to all consoles lol
Bro I have been a gamer since the ps2 days and once I got a pc, I never looked back.
Sure I may have owned a xbox and ps4 (and also a ps3 during covid), but to me consoles are a novelty compared to pc gaming
Also pc gamers are more mature compared to consoles, too many kiddies on consoles imo
Pc gamers are more than half compared to all consoles lol
If a PC can't dwarf consoles by x3, it simple isn't worth it to me. If it can't run at max settings a PC simply isn't worth it to me. When I do become PC Master Race, I want a minimum $5k build.
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08-28-2024, 03:36 PM
#92
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Blu ray? Is it 2006?
$757 and can barely beat the PS5 Pro?? You're wasting your time and money. You also didn't mention blu ray, m&k, a separate controller, and a gaming headset. That's easily another $400.
Spend $600 and have $150 leftover for 2 new games or a head set.
Spend $600 and have $150 leftover for 2 new games or a head set.
No one uses physical media anymore.
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08-28-2024, 03:38 PM
#93
Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan⏩
I use physical media because it's superior in visuals and sound over digital.
Blu ray? Is it 2006?
No one uses physical media anymore.
No one uses physical media anymore.
Also you will own nothing and like it.
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08-28-2024, 03:41 PM
#94
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
-Spends $1500
By thinking a 7800xt at ~160 watts performed like a 7800xt at 263 watts you think you are in a different performance tier than you are. This is equivalent to thinking a laptop 4090 is the equivalent of a desktop 4090… NOPE.
That 7800xt is the equivalent of a full power RX6800.
I really don't get why you dug in here. Enjoy your PS5 Pro… It just isn't some super high powered piece of tech.
You also don't get a computer, spend more on games, and don't get to mod.
I think a PS5 pro is a fine choice. It is just comparable to an $800 computer… not the death to PC gaming.
(I really don't care. My PC is significantly stronger, but it was also $1500… I am also probably buying a PS5 pro).
That 7800xt is the equivalent of a full power RX6800.
I really don't get why you dug in here. Enjoy your PS5 Pro… It just isn't some super high powered piece of tech.
You also don't get a computer, spend more on games, and don't get to mod.
I think a PS5 pro is a fine choice. It is just comparable to an $800 computer… not the death to PC gaming.
(I really don't care. My PC is significantly stronger, but it was also $1500… I am also probably buying a PS5 pro).
-Only slightly stronger than a box sold to the casual masses.
Again if you only play COD, Fortnite, and other basic indie games, then by all means. But you still spent an extra $900
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08-28-2024, 07:08 PM
#95
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
If you are counting I spent an extra 3k because I have all the boxes too and a much stronger computer…
-Spends $1500
-Only slightly stronger than a box sold to the casual masses.
Again if you only play COD, Fortnite, and other basic indie games, then by all means. But you still spent an extra $900
-Only slightly stronger than a box sold to the casual masses.
Again if you only play COD, Fortnite, and other basic indie games, then by all means. But you still spent an extra $900
08-28-2024, 07:37 PM
#96
Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan⏩
I do.
Blu ray? Is it 2006?
No one uses physical media anymore.
No one uses physical media anymore.
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08-28-2024, 08:04 PM
#97
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
You're completely clueless, lol but such is the brain of PC mustard race.
By thinking a 7800xt at ~160 watts performed like a 7800xt at 263 watts you think you are in a different performance tier than you are. This is equivalent to thinking a laptop 4090 is the equivalent of a desktop 4090… NOPE.
That 7800xt is the equivalent of a full power RX6800.
I really don't get why you dug in here. Enjoy your PS5 Pro… It just isn't some super high powered piece of tech.
That 7800xt is the equivalent of a full power RX6800.
I really don't get why you dug in here. Enjoy your PS5 Pro… It just isn't some super high powered piece of tech.
$750 to beat a PS5 pro, just lol
By that logic I bet you think a $400 PC will beat a base PS5 lol.
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08-29-2024, 08:15 AM
#98
Originally Posted By Coal Man⏩
Seems like you don't understand how computer parts (console parts) work.
You're completely clueless, lol but such is the brain of PC mustard race.
$750 to beat a PS5 pro, just lol
By that logic I bet you think a $400 PC will beat a base PS5 lol.
$750 to beat a PS5 pro, just lol
By that logic I bet you think a $400 PC will beat a base PS5 lol.
PC building doesn't work that way… The cheapest you can build a viable gaming PC is about $585. The fixed costs of the build eat up your performance. For that reason when ever someone says "I have $500 to build a gaming computer help me" my answer is always buy a console. Trying to beat that price requires a janky system like pictured in the LTT vid you linked.
This $585 computer will have a stronger CPU and GPU about 28% worse than the base PS5.
The PS5's GPU is roughly on par with a 2070S/7600/6650xt. As such it takes $625 to match the PS5.
If a PS5 pro has a 45% stronger GPU than the PS5 as is being reported it puts it between 3070Ti and RX6800 performance. This can be had at $757 as posted.
Even if it has the equivalent hardware as a 7800xt it doesn't matter because the power draw / heat constraints of the system is too low to boost it to full potential and perform like a full powered 7800xt.
You act like I hate consoles or something… I have 4 modern systems in my house and game on them about as often as I game on my stronger PC because sometimes it is nice just to relax reclined on the couch or play split screen with my wife/kids.
Simple fact is you are wrong about the relative hardware power of systems and what comparable systems cost. Yes there are benefits to the console. Yes there are benefits to a PC. This isn't "PC master race" BS. It is just what things cost.
08-29-2024, 08:34 AM
#99
Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
Also pc gamers are more mature compared to consoles, too many kiddies on consoles imo
That's funny because most "PC gamers" feel more immature considering they always feel the need to shiet on console gamers.
Also pc gamers are more mature compared to consoles, too many kiddies on consoles imo
I built PC for about $2100 Canadian (so about 1600 USD) at the time, and while it runs better than the PS5….. It's not by that much TBH. My next GPU upgrade will look to be about another $1100 (800 usd)
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08-29-2024, 08:55 AM
#100
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Works like this on paper but not in the real world.
Seems like you don't understand how computer parts (console parts) work.
PC building doesn't work that way… The cheapest you can build a viable gaming PC is about $585. The fixed costs of the build eat up your performance. For that reason when ever someone says "I have $500 to build a gaming computer help me" my answer is always buy a console. Trying to beat that price requires a janky system like pictured in the LTT vid you linked.
This $585 computer will have a stronger CPU and GPU about 28% worse than the base PS5.
The PS5's GPU is roughly on par with a 2070S/7600/6650xt. As such it takes $625 to match the PS5.
If a PS5 pro has a 45% stronger GPU than the PS5 as is being reported it puts it between 3070Ti and RX6800 performance. This can be had at $757 as posted.
Even if it has the equivalent hardware as a 7800xt it doesn't matter because the power draw / heat constraints of the system is too low to boost it to full potential and perform like a full powered 7800xt.
You act like I hate consoles or something… I have 4 modern systems in my house and game on them about as often as I game on my stronger PC because sometimes it is nice just to relax reclined on the couch or play split screen with my wife/kids.
Simple fact is you are wrong about the relative hardware power of systems and what comparable systems cost. Yes there are benefits to the console. Yes there are benefits to a PC. This isn't "PC master race" BS. It is just what things cost.
PC building doesn't work that way… The cheapest you can build a viable gaming PC is about $585. The fixed costs of the build eat up your performance. For that reason when ever someone says "I have $500 to build a gaming computer help me" my answer is always buy a console. Trying to beat that price requires a janky system like pictured in the LTT vid you linked.
This $585 computer will have a stronger CPU and GPU about 28% worse than the base PS5.
The PS5's GPU is roughly on par with a 2070S/7600/6650xt. As such it takes $625 to match the PS5.
If a PS5 pro has a 45% stronger GPU than the PS5 as is being reported it puts it between 3070Ti and RX6800 performance. This can be had at $757 as posted.
Even if it has the equivalent hardware as a 7800xt it doesn't matter because the power draw / heat constraints of the system is too low to boost it to full potential and perform like a full powered 7800xt.
You act like I hate consoles or something… I have 4 modern systems in my house and game on them about as often as I game on my stronger PC because sometimes it is nice just to relax reclined on the couch or play split screen with my wife/kids.
Simple fact is you are wrong about the relative hardware power of systems and what comparable systems cost. Yes there are benefits to the console. Yes there are benefits to a PC. This isn't "PC master race" BS. It is just what things cost.
Right now you cannot build a PC that runs games like the PS5 at the same price as a PS5 as much as you want to hope and dream it.
They tried this in the video I provided. They had to use USED parts, exclude a bunch of costs (peripherals, drive) and still had their game suffer crashes etc.
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08-29-2024, 09:16 AM
#101
If you are a PCcel and don't have the best card currently available you are a complete retard.
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08-29-2024, 09:33 AM
#102
Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Posted from your Playstation portal
If you are a PCcel and don't have the best card currently available you are a complete retard.
Jk it doesn't have a browser
08-29-2024, 09:34 AM
#103
Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Or maybe because my life doesn't revolve around PC gaming? Lol
If you are a PCcel and don't have the best card currently available you are a complete retard.
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08-29-2024, 10:02 AM
#104
Originally Posted By obmas⏩
If your life doesn't revolve around PC gaming, then you're probably still better off buying a console. You could build a cheap PC for $900, but it won't be much better than a PS5.
Or maybe because my life doesn't revolve around PC gaming? Lol
But for those dudes claiming to be PC MASTER RACE after only have spent $1000? Just LOL
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08-29-2024, 10:05 AM
#105
Originally Posted By Coal Man⏩
Do you even read stuff before commenting?
Works like this on paper but not in the real world.
Right now you cannot build a PC that runs games like the PS5 at the same price as a PS5 as much as you want to hope and dream it.
They tried this in the video I provided. They had to use USED parts, exclude a bunch of costs (peripherals, drive) and still had their game suffer crashes etc.
Right now you cannot build a PC that runs games like the PS5 at the same price as a PS5 as much as you want to hope and dream it.
They tried this in the video I provided. They had to use USED parts, exclude a bunch of costs (peripherals, drive) and still had their game suffer crashes etc.
That post literally addresses everything your comment says. You can't build ANY decent gaming computer under $580 ish and beating it took $625.
That is exactly the way things work. The PS5 games just come with graphics sliders pre-adjusted.
The PS5 Pro will be about the equivalent of a well built modern day $800 computer… Seems like a fine deal to me. Did a gaming computer fuk your mom or something?
08-29-2024, 10:18 AM
#106
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
You're talking to a dude who spent the prime years of his young adult life moderating the misc and playing Dota.
Do you even read stuff before commenting?
That post literally addresses everything your comment says. You can't build ANY decent gaming computer under $580 ish and beating it took $625.
That is exactly the way things work. The PS5 games just come with graphics sliders pre-adjusted.
The PS5 Pro will be about the equivalent of a well built modern day $800 computer… Seems like a fine deal to me. Did a gaming computer fuk your mom or something?
That post literally addresses everything your comment says. You can't build ANY decent gaming computer under $580 ish and beating it took $625.
That is exactly the way things work. The PS5 games just come with graphics sliders pre-adjusted.
The PS5 Pro will be about the equivalent of a well built modern day $800 computer… Seems like a fine deal to me. Did a gaming computer fuk your mom or something?
He's traumatized by pc
08-29-2024, 10:23 AM
#107
I was tempted to buy a 4090 but my 3080 currently runs everything beautifully so I don't really see the point.
I'll eventually upgrade maybe to a 5000 card or maybe even a 6000 card, unless some game comes out that I feel like it's worth it to upgrade.
I'll eventually upgrade maybe to a 5000 card or maybe even a 6000 card, unless some game comes out that I feel like it's worth it to upgrade.
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08-29-2024, 10:25 AM
#108
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
When arguments so bad we resort to mom jokes.
The PS5 games just come with graphics sliders pre-adjusted.
The PS5 Pro will be about the equivalent of a well built modern day $800 computer… Seems like a fine deal to me. Did a gaming computer fuk your mom or something?
The PS5 Pro will be about the equivalent of a well built modern day $800 computer… Seems like a fine deal to me. Did a gaming computer fuk your mom or something?
Console versions of games aren't "just sliders adjusted", devs spend months or longer working on different versions of games. Sony bought a whole new studio just to port games to PC, why would they have to do this if it's just a matter of "adjust a couple sliders". Use your brain man.
Even a well known PC user in this forum is giving it to you straight:
Originally Posted By obmas⏩
But you're saying "nah bruh, bout 6 hunnid"
I built PC for about $2100 Canadian (so about 1600 USD) at the time, and while it runs better than the PS5….. It's not by that much TBH.
Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Apex player btw ^
You're talking to a dude who spent the prime years of his young adult life moderating the misc and playing Dota.
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08-29-2024, 10:36 AM
#109
Originally Posted By Coal Man⏩
Wrong. Here is a recent video using $500 in USED parts to be similar to a regular PS5.
People in the comments worked out new prices of those parts to be $850-950
So yes, a regular PS5 can fit in the sub $1000 price point, barely. A pro will be hundreds more.
People in the comments worked out new prices of those parts to be $850-950
So yes, a regular PS5 can fit in the sub $1000 price point, barely. A pro will be hundreds more.
If I had the choice between these two and only these two, I'm going with the PC every time. Keyboard and mouse is better and at the end of the day I still have a PC that I can internet with and do other chit.
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08-29-2024, 10:59 AM
#110
Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Funny because they built that pc using broke down used parts, we all know that rig won't survive a year while crying for dear life along the way. Good luck using internet on a PC that won't even boot up.
If I had the choice between these two and only these two, I'm going with the PC every time. Keyboard and mouse is better and at the end of the day I still have a PC that I can internet with and do other chit.
They played Rift Apart which crashed, thanks to your typical PC jank coupled with the above mishmash of used parts.
You have to be a brainless monkey to choose that trash over a new PS5.
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08-29-2024, 11:01 AM
#111
Originally Posted By obmas⏩
Seems like some sort of poor cope to me. PC's biggest benefit is performance, get the performance, or get a console, or don't game.
Or maybe because my life doesn't revolve around PC gaming? Lol
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
This ^
If your life doesn't revolve around PC gaming, then you're probably still better off buying a console. You could build a cheap PC for $900, but it won't be much better than a PS5.
But for those dudes claiming to be PC MASTER RACE after only have spent $1000? Just LOL
But for those dudes claiming to be PC MASTER RACE after only have spent $1000? Just LOL
Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Brootal truth. Imagine playing RTS games on a PC rather than chasing wet hole in your youth. One life, dun fuked up, I'd be that mad too.
You're talking to a dude who spent the prime years of his young adult life moderating the misc and playing Dota.
He's traumatized by pc
He's traumatized by pc
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08-29-2024, 11:07 AM
#112
Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Imagine playing games on a PC rather than chasing wet hole in your youth. One life, dun fuked up, I'd be that mad too.
Fkn lol does anyone in this forum believe for a second mgftp has been drowning in wet hole at any point in his life? Lmao the only wet hole you know is your own bootyhole after decades of cum dumps. The closest to drowning you've ever been was getting your face bukkake'd by your bulls.
Imagine playing games on a PC rather than chasing wet hole in your youth. One life, dun fuked up, I'd be that mad too.
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08-29-2024, 11:12 AM
#113
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I think the sweet spot then for a PC is $1k.
Seems like you don't understand how computer parts (console parts) work.
PC building doesn't work that way… The cheapest you can build a viable gaming PC is about $585. The fixed costs of the build eat up your performance. For that reason when ever someone says "I have $500 to build a gaming computer help me" my answer is always buy a console. Trying to beat that price requires a janky system like pictured in the LTT vid you linked.
This $585 computer will have a stronger CPU and GPU about 28% worse than the base PS5.
The PS5's GPU is roughly on par with a 2070S/7600/6650xt. As such it takes $625 to match the PS5.
If a PS5 pro has a 45% stronger GPU than the PS5 as is being reported it puts it between 3070Ti and RX6800 performance. This can be had at $757 as posted.
Even if it has the equivalent hardware as a 7800xt it doesn't matter because the power draw / heat constraints of the system is too low to boost it to full potential and perform like a full powered 7800xt.
You act like I hate consoles or something… I have 4 modern systems in my house and game on them about as often as I game on my stronger PC because sometimes it is nice just to relax reclined on the couch or play split screen with my wife/kids.
Simple fact is you are wrong about the relative hardware power of systems and what comparable systems cost. Yes there are benefits to the console. Yes there are benefits to a PC. This isn't "PC master race" BS. It is just what things cost.
PC building doesn't work that way… The cheapest you can build a viable gaming PC is about $585. The fixed costs of the build eat up your performance. For that reason when ever someone says "I have $500 to build a gaming computer help me" my answer is always buy a console. Trying to beat that price requires a janky system like pictured in the LTT vid you linked.
This $585 computer will have a stronger CPU and GPU about 28% worse than the base PS5.
The PS5's GPU is roughly on par with a 2070S/7600/6650xt. As such it takes $625 to match the PS5.
If a PS5 pro has a 45% stronger GPU than the PS5 as is being reported it puts it between 3070Ti and RX6800 performance. This can be had at $757 as posted.
Even if it has the equivalent hardware as a 7800xt it doesn't matter because the power draw / heat constraints of the system is too low to boost it to full potential and perform like a full powered 7800xt.
You act like I hate consoles or something… I have 4 modern systems in my house and game on them about as often as I game on my stronger PC because sometimes it is nice just to relax reclined on the couch or play split screen with my wife/kids.
Simple fact is you are wrong about the relative hardware power of systems and what comparable systems cost. Yes there are benefits to the console. Yes there are benefits to a PC. This isn't "PC master race" BS. It is just what things cost.
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08-29-2024, 11:15 AM
#114
Originally Posted By theory816⏩
I think the sweet spot then for a PC is $1k.
But how long do you expect it to last?
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08-29-2024, 11:28 AM
#115
Originally Posted By Coal Man⏩
My 1500 dollar pc with a 1080ti from 2017 still runs daily and plays games, it's the pc my gf uses on a regular basis
But how long do you expect it to last?
My 2011ish build with a 970 still runs a plex server with a bunch of movies. I could go boot up any game on it right now.
Both builds were budget builds
08-29-2024, 11:34 AM
#116
Originally Posted By Coal Man⏩
In my experience the only issues I have with PC parts are the HDs and the PSU and they last for years. Consoles last for a long time also. Only issue I ever had with a console dying was with the PS3 where I played a ton of COD.
But how long do you expect it to last?
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08-29-2024, 11:39 AM
#117
Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
This is fine if you only play basic gamers or games like Elden Ring and Wukong at 1080p.
My 1500 dollar pc with a 1080ti from 2017 still runs daily and plays games, it's the pc my gf uses on a regular basis
My 2011ish build with a 970 still runs a plex server with a bunch of movies. I could go boot up any game on it right now.
Both builds were budget builds
My 2011ish build with a 970 still runs a plex server with a bunch of movies. I could go boot up any game on it right now.
Both builds were budget builds
Imagine still playing 1080p in the year 2024.
I don't want to play at 1080p, so I'll stick to console for the time being.
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08-29-2024, 11:40 AM
#118
im gonna get a 14900k once they are fixed and a 5090 next year. never went balls to the wall but i have no woman to buy things for anymore
wont ever want or need an 8k tv either. 4k/120hz is good enough forever. going to take a decade for good 8k receivers supporting 120hz with a new HDMI standard anyway.
of course theyll invent some new gimmic and try to entice us but im good fam.
wont ever want or need an 8k tv either. 4k/120hz is good enough forever. going to take a decade for good 8k receivers supporting 120hz with a new HDMI standard anyway.
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08-29-2024, 12:14 PM
#119
Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Well I guess you're right, if you're the type of gamer who is fine knowing it's a budget build.
My 1500 dollar pc with a 1080ti from 2017 still runs daily and plays games, it's the pc my gf uses on a regular basis
My 2011ish build with a 970 still runs a plex server with a bunch of movies. I could go boot up any game on it right now.
Both builds were budget builds
My 2011ish build with a 970 still runs a plex server with a bunch of movies. I could go boot up any game on it right now.
Both builds were budget builds
Only reason I brought that up is because it seems like optimization is becoming ass this gen. All across the board to be honest but it's even more so with PC imo. Top budget PCs are so much more powerful than consoles now but I'm constantly stunned to see these machines struggling with games at the highest settings. The issue CLEARLY isn't the hardware.
People are already saying they need the 5x GPUs and I'm like damn do you know how insanely powerful your 4080 already is. It hasn't been that long since everyone was gushing over the 3080 but already it's somehow not good enough.
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08-29-2024, 12:44 PM
#120
Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Today the 1k mark is a little bit of a hole in the PC stack. I would either take my $750 build and sub in a few quality of life upgrades keeping it under $850 or go to $1200.
I think the sweet spot then for a PC is $1k.
If you can swing $1200 this is a very sweet rig.
[PCPartPicker Part List]( https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2vc28 )
Type|Item|Price
:—-|:—-|:—-
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXm...0-100001015box ) | $182.14 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szf...ming-plus-wifi ) | $149.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCK...2gxlwu60afdeae ) | $90.97 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Acer Predator GM7000 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GyZ...ive-bl9bwwr105 ) | $81.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ln4...900gre-cl-16go ) | $529.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mpc...-fd-c-por1a-06 ) | $59.99 @ B&H
**Power Supply** | [NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply]( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZCQ...ly-pa-7g1bb-us ) | $79.98 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1175.05**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker]( https://pcpartpicker.com ) 2024-08-29 15:42 EDT-0400 |
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