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12-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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You don't get smite until lvl 10? Really? You pretty much can't jungle without it in the current state of the jungle. It's (jungle) a lot more difficult this season than it has been in the past; a lot of champs, at least early, struggle to clear the current jungle even at level 30 with full runes and masteries.

I'd say WW is a pretty good champ to relearn the game, but most people would consider him to be pretty bad. He's actually next up to get reworked by Riot because he is just outdated in terms of gameplay.

But honestly, just play the champs you enjoy to play. You can make anything work in this game, regardless of what people will tell you.
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12-26-2016, 11:29 AM
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If anybody has 40 minutes of spare time could they look through my recent Zac game (will rep)? The biggest throw of my life, want to know where I went wrong. 14-2-19, felt sick after this loss.

This is very low elo btw

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12-26-2016, 08:29 PM
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If anybody has 40 minutes of spare time could they look through my recent Zac game (will rep)? The biggest throw of my life, want to know where I went wrong. 14-2-19, felt sick after this loss.

This is very low elo btw

http://www.replay.gg/search/na/natiqa
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12-27-2016, 02:26 AM
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If anybody has 40 minutes of spare time could they look through my recent Zac game (will rep)? The biggest throw of my life, want to know where I went wrong. 14-2-19, felt sick after this loss.

This is very low elo btw

http://www.replay.gg/search/na/natiqa
Don't beat yourself up over those games. From the looks of the end game results it doesn't even look like a throw. The only person who did well besides you was Gragas, everyone else, especially your bottom lane got REKT. They went 2-22 between the both of them. Even though you were 18-6, at 36 minutes, you're not going to have enough damage to carry the game as Zac, and the other team had a pretty crazy late game damage team comp. Yi, Trynd, Vik, Draven, and even the support Annie do a lot of damage. This game was likely unwinnable for you, you're ADC had 2 items at nearly 40 minutes FFS and you're mid laner wasn't much better at 3 items. Just accept that you can't carry some games and move on.
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12-27-2016, 06:42 AM
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Don't beat yourself up over those games. From the looks of the end game results it doesn't even look like a throw. The only person who did well besides you was Gragas, everyone else, especially your bottom lane got REKT. They went 2-22 between the both of them. Even though you were 18-6, at 36 minutes, you're not going to have enough damage to carry the game as Zac, and the other team had a pretty crazy late game damage team comp. Yi, Trynd, Vik, Draven, and even the support Annie do a lot of damage. This game was likely unwinnable for you, you're ADC had 2 items at nearly 40 minutes FFS and you're mid laner wasn't much better at 3 items. Just accept that you can't carry some games and move on.
gotchu bro that game was also titling (I was originally talking about the zac game before that) , I can only expect to do so much as a full tank Zac…don't like to build him anyway else. Will climb out again one day xd just gotta grind and improve
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12-27-2016, 10:11 PM
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I just dont get it i really dont. How am i in gold and people cant seem to know how to group up like is it really that hard. I mean i could understand if its bronze but this is gold you would think people would atleast know the basics of grouping. Just lost two games back to back where we were super ahead (10k gold ahead) and could not group…. literally 50 minutes into the game talon is running around in their jungle flipping around and getting cought. Annie i jungling our jungle when they have open inhibs and we win easy if we just 5v5.



Even typing in chat please group like 5 times after someone gets caught doesnt seem to do the trick. How do people get to gold not being able to do something as basic as group please aware me. I dont have problem with losing when other team is better but when we are clearly ahead and lose **** fukkin hurts so bad.
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12-27-2016, 10:36 PM
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I just dont get it i really dont. How am i in gold and people cant seem to know how to group up like is it really that hard. I mean i could understand if its bronze but this is gold you would think people would atleast know the basics of grouping. Just lost two games back to back where we were super ahead (10k gold ahead) and could not group…. literally 50 minutes into the game talon is running around in their jungle flipping around and getting cought. Annie i jungling our jungle when they have open inhibs and we win easy if we just 5v5.



Even typing in chat please group like 5 times after someone gets caught doesnt seem to do the trick. How do people get to gold not being able to do something as basic as group please aware me. I dont have problem with losing when other team is better but when we are clearly ahead and lose **** fukkin hurts so bad.
still happens in plat too brah. some people get really good at ****ting on their enemy laners but then have no idea what do with their lead aside from chasing kills.

all you can do is try to shotcall through chat + pings and avoid flaming so they don't tilt
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12-27-2016, 11:03 PM
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You don't get smite until lvl 10? Really? You pretty much can't jungle without it in the current state of the jungle. It's (jungle) a lot more difficult this season than it has been in the past; a lot of champs, at least early, struggle to clear the current jungle even at level 30 with full runes and masteries.

I'd say WW is a pretty good champ to relearn the game, but most people would consider him to be pretty bad. He's actually next up to get reworked by Riot because he is just outdated in terms of gameplay.

But honestly, just play the champs you enjoy to play. You can make anything work in this game, regardless of what people will tell you.
WW was one of my fav champs to jungle with but with new jungle his jungle is extremely slow because he has no AOE… the raptors destroy him ….golems take forever because they keep dividing and he can only hit one at a time. It also killed another one of my fav jungs early game … xin.

They can both clear but its much slower then meta jungles….

Also i am not sure anyone can jungle without smite in this game…it doesnt even allow you to buy jungle item without smite … not to mention at lvl 10 players dont have full runes or masteries yet.
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12-27-2016, 11:08 PM
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still happens in plat too brah. some people get really good at ****ting on their enemy laners but then have no idea what do with their lead aside from chasing kills.

all you can do is try to shotcall through chat + pings and avoid flaming so they don't tilt
It hurts so bad brah…especially just seeing the enamy team literally walking as one constantly. Shoutcalling doesnt seem to help … saying guyst hey are grouped please group …nobody responds just do their own thing. Sucks ass to be jungle work your ass off getting the lanes ahead and then they just throw away the win. So heartbreaking.
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12-28-2016, 07:37 PM
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Anyone GP players here? How do you play the laning phase out? Just farm up and stay safe? Anything you wont pick GP into?
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12-28-2016, 08:10 PM
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Anyone GP players here? How do you play the laning phase out? Just farm up and stay safe? Anything you wont pick GP into?
farm under turret if they pushing you, while under turret look for kills with your ult. once you get trinity force you should be able to go more offensive
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12-29-2016, 08:07 AM
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12-30-2016, 04:08 AM
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Still cant believe this dude makes 200k a month…
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Still cant believe this dude makes 200k a month…
Not too surprising actually. He is legit really good at the game and is super entertaining. He also streams at a time when he can get most of the viewers instead of splitting it with other pros/ex-pros. Only other "decent" streamer at that time is NB3 and his stream has gone soooooo downhill the past 8 months. He is borderline trolling most of his games to appeal to his audience. Used to be one of the most informative Jungle streamers and now can't even stand is stream for more than 10 minutes. QTpie also plays a hell of a lot of adds… Don't normally like to run adblock for twitch but I have to for his streams. It's almost like watching network tv with as many ads as he runs.
hard to hate on a fellow wings fan but….


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Not too surprising actually. He is legit really good at the game and is super entertaining. He also streams at a time when he can get most of the viewers instead of splitting it with other pros/ex-pros. Only other "decent" streamer at that time is NB3 and his stream has gone soooooo downhill the past 8 months. He is borderline trolling most of his games to appeal to his audience. Used to be one of the most informative Jungle streamers and now can't even stand is stream for more than 10 minutes. QTpie also plays a hell of a lot of adds… Don't normally like to run adblock for twitch but I have to for his streams. It's almost like watching network tv with as many ads as he runs.
Lol this. I'll add that this guy dedicates an insane amount of time to streaming. He literally streams every single day 8 hours per day. Even during big holidays like Christmas. The only time I've seen him take off has been to go to things like twitchcon or another event. Even then, he'll post youtube vlogs or something similar related to his streaming business. Mirin' dedication to say the least.

Really talented + solid entertainment + consistent stream schedule = boat loads of $$$.

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12-30-2016, 02:05 PM
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Still cant believe this dude makes 200k a month…
yeah lol he makes bank. yet only wears a white shirt for every stream. must have millions saved up. mirin his life
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Lol this. I'll add that this guy dedicates an insane amount of time to streaming. He literally streams every single day 8 hours per day. Even during big holidays like Christmas. The only time I've seen him take off has been to go to things like twitchcon or another event. Even then, he'll post youtube vlogs or something similar related to his streaming business. Mirin' dedication to say the least.

Really talented + solid entertainment + consistent stream schedule = boat loads of $$$.

also gonna watch your vod today mwizzle, RL chit the past 2 days so I've been busy, but I got u fam
Thanks brah it's no prob, had a friend review it also in the meantime, basically he made me own up to it for not abusing my lead and my poor shotcalling. I should've called for Baron so much earlier and had multiple chances but I didn't, also had very poor poor jungle pathing; this should make more sense when you watch it.
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yeah lol he makes bank. yet only wears a white shirt for every stream. must have millions saved up. mirin his life
I mean good for him for securing his future and making bank while he still can. Streaming is a pretty unstable job, though he seems to be the first streamer I've seen have a strictly consistent streaming schedule and genuinely provides the lols while still having a high level of play.
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01-01-2017, 07:03 PM
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lol how the matching system loves to troll me.

so i lose promo to s2 after getting afk adc one game and then this the following….

top laner is a kassadin vs a teemo. feeds hard. gets flamed. game ends in 18 mins because you cant carry this ****.

kassadin said its his first time raked. after game i check, can confirm. this was the first ranked game kassadin has played on the account, bots before this. NO runes on both pages. not even tier 1 or 2.

ty riot

meanwhile teemo was gold last season
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Still cant believe this dude makes 200k a month…

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Thought I'd try Veigar at ADC position since Ziggs seemed to work so well for people and I don't like going top lane anymore, so I just queue as Mid/ADC. It actually works well with any champ that has a root/stun. You just follow up with your cage for guaranteed 3-4 seconds of stun/CC and either kill them or chunk to 3/4 HP. Or if you need to play safe, you can just push waves and farm up stacks.

Late game I just go my tried and true hybrid tank/AP Veigar build, so I end up being semi-tanky with 3.4k HP and 800-1000 AP.
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Thought I'd try Veigar at ADC position since Ziggs seemed to work so well for people and I don't like going top lane anymore, so I just queue as Mid/ADC. It actually works well with any champ that has a root/stun. You just follow up with your cage for guaranteed 3-4 seconds of stun/CC and either kill them or chunk to 3/4 HP. Or if you need to play safe, you can just push waves and farm up stacks.

Late game I just go my tried and true hybrid tank/AP Veigar build, so I end up being semi-tanky with 3.4k HP and 800-1000 AP.
. Adc is a dead role ATM. There's a guy in chellenger this season that's been only playing Morde adc with a 64% winrate.

If you're trying to climb, don't adc. It's in a bad bad spot at the moment. Queue as adc and play a bruiser or made - anyone could get to gold / plat right now doing this.
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Played a bot game as Veigar/Soraka vs. Ziggs/Elise. Also tuned into Scarra's stream and saw Shiphtur on Viktor with MF support vs Syndra/Blitz. Just lol at ADCs getting cucked so hard.
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Played a bot game as Veigar/Soraka vs. Ziggs/Elise. Also tuned into Scarra's stream and saw Shiphtur on Viktor with MF support vs Syndra/Blitz. Just lol at ADCs getting cucked so hard.
Lol'd.

ADC is so garbage right now. Glorified cannon minions and just free gold for enemy lanes.
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oh geez I wonder if this guy is some silver ****ter who got boosted to diamond last season and is crashing out of his placements.

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oh geez I wonder if this guy is some silver ****ter who got boosted to diamond last season and is crashing out of his placements.

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lmao. Pretty obvious since in his normal MMR has him facing unranked level 30's and bronze 4-5 level players, and he's lost some of them. But in his ranked games, he's losing them all and getting ass blasted by plat players.
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lmao. Pretty obvious since in his normal MMR has him facing unranked level 30's and bronze 4-5 level players, and he's lost some of them. But in his ranked games, he's losing them all and getting ass blasted by plat players.
got him on my last promo game to plat. all of my team's lanes stomped unbelievably hard and the guy still got an early camp from our jungler. then while everyone's basically ****ing around waiting for the 20 minutes mark to hit he's getting his **** kicked in by the enemy tryn in top despite his early lead and the massive global gold disparity. decided to check his OP.GG after the game, and voila… that's why when you have a lead you can't let up, never know what kind of ****ter you get matched with.

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Is it too late to play this game as a noob?
Someone just convinced me to try this game a week ago and I can say I'm pretty much enjoying this more than expected.

Is there like a beginner's guide anywhere in this thread or anywhere that you guys can point me to?
like basic terminologies
general objective and rules
roles and positioning on the map
basic strategy for beginners and hopefully soon in ranked games.

Anything will surely help me since I really know nothing so far about the game except to get gold, try to kill champs, destroy towers, move forward until we destroy the base.
I read some about the talent tree but I think its too early for me to worry about it since I'm only level 4 I think lol. So for now, I'm trying to understand the basic.

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Is it too late to play this game as a noob?
Someone just convinced me to try this game a week ago and I can say I'm pretty much enjoying this more than expected.

Is there like a beginner's guide anywhere in this thread or anywhere that you guys can point me to?
• like basic terminologies
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• basic strategy for beginners and hopefully soon in ranked games.

Anything will surely help me since I really know nothing so far about the game except to get gold, try to kill champs, destroy towers, move forward until we destroy the base.
I read some about the talent tree but I think its too early for me to worry about it since I'm only level 4 I think lol. So for now, I'm trying to understand the basic.

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