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05-15-2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By VTheKing
pyke will be my permaban because i know everyone autofilled zed/yasuo/riven main will pick him
not seeing how he's a support either
hard to hate on a fellow wings fan but….


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05-15-2018, 01:59 PM
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not seeing how he's a support either
He has a slow, a pull, and a multi-target stun, which is more than enough to set up ganks. He has stealth and ms steroid for warding and roaming. And huge burst damage, but also shares kill rewards with adc. Sounds more of a support than brand or lux to me
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05-15-2018, 04:33 PM
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League was a better game when the character with the hardest mechanics was lee sin


I started playing at Fizz's release


these new champions the past few years are so overloaded compared to 80% of the previously made champs…
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05-16-2018, 05:07 AM
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Just heard IWD say "we lost too many crabs games over" …League 2018 boys.


Jungle role is limited to chasing crabs around the map. Rito balance team at it again.
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05-16-2018, 07:07 AM
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He has a slow, a pull, and a multi-target stun, which is more than enough to set up ganks. He has stealth and ms steroid for warding and roaming. And huge burst damage, but also shares kill rewards with adc. Sounds more of a support than brand or lux to me
Sounds like the perfect jungler if you ask me.
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Just heard IWD say "we lost too many crabs games over" …League 2018 boys.


Jungle role is limited to chasing crabs around the map. Rito balance team at it again.
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League was a better game when the character with the hardest mechanics was lee sin


I started playing at Fizz's release


these new champions the past few years are so overloaded compared to 80% of the previously made champs…
then they rework the old champs and they start dominating. Questionable balance for sure.
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05-16-2018, 08:46 AM
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Sounds like the perfect jungler if you ask me.
If his Q clear is decent, then yea. But also he can't build ANY health, so early clears might be rough (especially since they are buffing jg camps now). Ganks sound amazing though
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05-16-2018, 08:48 AM
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League was a better game when the character with the hardest mechanics was lee sin


I started playing at Fizz's release


these new champions the past few years are so overloaded compared to 80% of the previously made champs…
Srs…I miss the days of mousing over your Q and reading "Does 100(250) damage to first enemy hit". Now I have to read a fukking paragraph on each spell (including passive)…Camille, Zoe, Ornn…
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05-16-2018, 08:52 AM
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What is it? I don't follow



then they rework the old champs and they start dominating. Questionable balance for sure.
They made it so t hat skuttle/Crab gives more xp then a jungle camp early in the game so its super important to get crab now. Pretty much which ever jung gets the crab first is one level higher then the other jungler and can bully the other jungler and have more pressure on lanes.

Riot also made it so that you dont get lvl 3 after doing 3 jungle camps.
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05-16-2018, 08:56 AM
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They made it so t hat skuttle/Crab gives more xp then a jungle camp early in the game so its super important to get crab now. Pretty much which ever jung gets the crab first is one level higher and can bully the other jungler and have more pressure on other lanes.

Riot also made it so that you dont get lvl 3 after doing 3 jungle camps.
interesting…I missed the update because of my ban. So do people just rush scuttle 1st now?
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the state of the game has been really sad during the last two seasons
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the state of the game has been really sad during the last two seasons
Definitely downhill. I took 6 months off cause it was getting so annoying, now just playing here and there.

Favorite part was always ranked 5's with friends, but they removed it and all my friends stopped playing. So I definitely got hyped they are adding that weekend tournament Clash mode.

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05-16-2018, 10:24 AM
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I've been here since S2. people have been saying the same is dying ever since then and they'l be saying it in season 12.


I'm honestly surprised the game has been successful so long with consistent growth (year over year, the game is still growing). I figured they'd need to release league2 sometime in the next year or so to remain successful but it appears that they have a solid 5+ years remaining easily
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06-08-2018, 11:45 PM
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dang game state was pretty good around MSI, now ADC's got nerfed to **** and it's all up in the air now lol. the d5 ranked game I just played was pretty normal tho, typical jungler feeding his ass off but thankfully I was on malz which is an autowin against braindead opponents.
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07-29-2018, 04:39 PM
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RIP tsm. there's no recovering from this anymore. they have a roster that is world's semi-final worthy and likely won't even make playoffs in NALCS


There's always next season I guess
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RIP tsm. there's no recovering from this anymore. they have a roster that is world's semi-final worthy and likely won't even make playoffs in NALCS


There's always next season I guess
Drop Mithy and TSM will make playoffs. He doesn't understand this meta therefore can't shot call correctly and can't play engage champs. Actually can't play any champ other than TK right now. It was a long shot but TSM definitely should traded off Zven and Mithy and picked up Rekkles from FNC and Smoothie from C9. I guarantee Rekless would have came over considering he hasn't played since game 1 of summer split.
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07-30-2018, 08:53 AM
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Definitely downhill. I took 6 months off cause it was getting so annoying, now just playing here and there.

Favorite part was always ranked 5's with friends, but they removed it and all my friends stopped playing. So I definitely got hyped they are adding that weekend tournament Clash mode.

Low key we should form a misc team of misfits and dominate NA
Don't take me. Took 2 months off because of Overwatch and turned into complete trash. 0-4 in ranked so far this season.

And apparently I missed several reworks. Just got my chit pushed in by an Aatrox main.
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Drop Mithy and TSM will make playoffs. He doesn't understand this meta therefore can't shot call correctly and can't play engage champs. Actually can't play any champ other than TK right now. It was a long shot but TSM definitely should traded off Zven and Mithy and picked up Rekkles from FNC and Smoothie from C9. I guarantee Rekless would have came over considering he hasn't played since game 1 of summer split.
Honestly I don't know what the issue is anymore. They're the only team i still bother to watch but even now i can't find myself wanting to watch their games

- Bjergson is the common denominator in every disaster team. He isn't dominating like he was a few years back. He used to solo-kill EVERYBODY in lane. Sure the meta changed but now game after game he's just up 5cs, stays in lane, and the enemy mid will be up 2 kills on bjerg from roams. it's game after game after game of the same thing
- Hauntzer keeps getting firstblooded. He's a monster but he's closer to dyrus than not this season.
- Zven only performs on ezreal apprently
- Mithy is complete trash. Combine that with the fact that the team never follows up on his calls and it makes him look even worse.
- The team has no cohesion and has pathetic game-sense.
— Just take a look at their most recent game…Enemy kennen/cait with two mountain drakes is at their third turret botside while tsm is pushing second turret mid. Zven starts backing to try to stop them and somebody made the call to stay . they immediately lost the base-race after. that is bronz-level awareness.

They hired the best coach in the LCS ssong and benched him after half the season. Enough said

If it was up to me..
- eat the cost and buy a second S-tier mid and field the mid on academy. make a legitimate attempt to see if bjergson is the core issue. maybe he isn't. tsm obviously has more inside knowledge than what we see but their lack of results regardless of roster clearly speak for themselves
- never accept "combo-packages" like zven/mithy. they both have to perform and you can't kick one player without the other so the likelyhood of it working out isn't as high. like now, we can't kick mithy because zven is a package deal with him. then again maybe zven is sick of mithy as well
- pick up aphromoo somehow. or get biofrost back. or toss in lustboy at this point because anything is better than mithy
- i don't know what to do about their jungler situation because every single jungler they had since theoddone was a monster and turned into a ward. amazing/santorin/sven/mikeyoung all were incredible and all had the potential to best best jungler in NA. then they turn into a bottom3 ward.
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Don't take me. Took 2 months off because of Overwatch and turned into complete trash. 0-4 in ranked so far this season.

And apparently I missed several reworks. Just got my chit pushed in by an Aatrox main.
Damnit brah…I just got back to honor level 2. Not only did Rito pull the plug on Clash, but now you're coming at me with this chit? I wanna see a 6-4 finish from you in placements pls
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Damnit brah…I just got back to honor level 2. Not only did Rito pull the plug on Clash, but now you're coming at me with this chit? I wanna see a 6-4 finish from you in placements pls
lol I only got like 7 heroes I can reliably play too. Too much Zed one tricking in normal.

I'm probably a silver at best if I'm honest. Been playing since mid Season 7 iirc.


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Honestly I don't know what the issue is anymore. They're the only team i still bother to watch but even now i can't find myself wanting to watch their games

- Bjergson is the common denominator in every disaster team. He isn't dominating like he was a few years back. He used to solo-kill EVERYBODY in lane. Sure the meta changed but now game after game he's just up 5cs, stays in lane, and the enemy mid will be up 2 kills on bjerg from roams. it's game after game after game of the same thing
- Hauntzer keeps getting firstblooded. He's a monster but he's closer to dyrus than not this season.
- Zven only performs on ezreal apprently
- Mithy is complete trash. Combine that with the fact that the team never follows up on his calls and it makes him look even worse.
- The team has no cohesion and has pathetic game-sense.
— Just take a look at their most recent game…Enemy kennen/cait with two mountain drakes is at their third turret botside while tsm is pushing second turret mid. Zven starts backing to try to stop them and somebody made the call to stay . they immediately lost the base-race after. that is bronz-level awareness.

They hired the best coach in the LCS ssong and benched him after half the season. Enough said

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- eat the cost and buy a second S-tier mid and field the mid on academy. make a legitimate attempt to see if bjergson is the core issue. maybe he isn't. tsm obviously has more inside knowledge than what we see but their lack of results regardless of roster clearly speak for themselves
- never accept "combo-packages" like zven/mithy. they both have to perform and you can't kick one player without the other so the likelyhood of it working out isn't as high. like now, we can't kick mithy because zven is a package deal with him. then again maybe zven is sick of mithy as well
- pick up aphromoo somehow. or get biofrost back. or toss in lustboy at this point because anything is better than mithy
- i don't know what to do about their jungler situation because every single jungler they had since theoddone was a monster and turned into a ward. amazing/santorin/sven/mikeyoung all were incredible and all had the potential to best best jungler in NA. then they turn into a bottom3 ward.
Did you ever see this from Ssong? I feel like TSM has heaps of mechanical talent but their macro falls apart after mid-game in international play. Especially compared to these Chinese and Korean teams.. At least that's how it seemed last year. I've seen people on reddit defending Zven/Mithy because of their objective count. But Reddit does tend to blame Bjerg alot.

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07-30-2018, 09:27 AM
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Honestly I don't know what the issue is anymore. They're the only team i still bother to watch but even now i can't find myself wanting to watch their games



If it was up to me..
- eat the cost and buy a second S-tier mid and field the mid on academy. make a legitimate attempt to see if bjergson is the core issue. maybe he isn't. tsm obviously has more inside knowledge than what we see but their lack of results regardless of roster clearly speak for themselves
- never accept "combo-packages" like zven/mithy. they both have to perform and you can't kick one player without the other so the likelyhood of it working out isn't as high. like now, we can't kick mithy because zven is a package deal with him. then again maybe zven is sick of mithy as well
- pick up aphromoo somehow. or get biofrost back. or toss in lustboy at this point because anything is better than mithy
- i don't know what to do about their jungler situation because every single jungler they had since theoddone was a monster and turned into a ward. amazing/santorin/sven/mikeyoung all were incredible and all had the potential to best best jungler in NA. then they turn into a bottom3 ward.
I still think in this case its Mithy. They brought him in to specifically shot call and his "knowledge" of the game so that Bjerg doesn't have to shot call as much and can concentrate on lane. Obviously that isn't working. I think Bjerg is still an amazing and maybe he does need to make the calls? Mithy is an academy level support mechanically and now that he can't shot call in this meta he needs to be out and like you said he's a package with Zven so they gotta go together.

Agreed they seem to just always trash junglers but I haven't seen at any point Grig being a solo cause of losses so I'm not on the outs with him yet.

It really does seem like they just refuse to adapt and evolve with the game. Like "this is what has always worked and it will always work." Possibly Reggie's fault? The one game Zven played a mage botlane they looked totally lost.

Idk man at this point maybe you're right and they just need to bring in new players and see if its the players. C9 did it with Jensen and Sneaky and they've been winning now that their back.
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I still think in this case its Mithy. They brought him in to specifically shot call and his "knowledge" of the game so that Bjerg doesn't have to shot call as much and can concentrate on lane. Obviously that isn't working. I think Bjerg is still an amazing and maybe he does need to make the calls? Mithy is an academy level support mechanically and now that he can't shot call in this meta he needs to be out and like you said he's a package with Zven so they gotta go together.

Agreed they seem to just always trash junglers but I haven't seen at any point Grig being a solo cause of losses so I'm not on the outs with him yet.

It really does seem like they just refuse to adapt and evolve with the game. Like "this is what has always worked and it will always work." Possibly Reggie's fault? The one game Zven played a mage botlane they looked totally lost.

Idk man at this point maybe you're right and they just need to bring in new players and see if its the players. C9 did it with Jensen and Sneaky and they've been winning now that their back.
So according to the most recent tsk legends, mithy is so depressed that he’s been going to therapy.

They 100% should sub him out until he recovers if he has legitimate depression. It’s just a downwards spiral because each time he loses, he gets more depressed, causing him to play worse, etc etc
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It's a style of play issue imo. TSM is known for their passive play, waiting for the enemy team to make a mistake and then punishing that mistake hard, and the current roster was tailor-made to fir that style. But it just doesn't work in the current meta.

Look at SKT, the team to revolutionize that perfectionist, no-mistake style of play. They're struggling as well, and it's because that style of play doesn't work atm.

The difference, however, is that SKT benches Faker, who plays exactly like Bjergsen btw, for Pirean while changing to a faster-paced style. The result was a few wins. TSM, on the other hand, continues to bash their heads against the wall because TSM is TSM.

You know what the worst part is? NA is franchised so it doesn't even matter. I would have the biggest smile on my face if this was the old LCS, and they actually got relegated because of how chit they are.

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if anything, NA has tried to lean on Koreans too much. Fly, CoreJJ, Pirean were all pretty ****ty when imported but now they're all stomping once they return home. ffs the former Phoenix 1 midlaner put Faker on the bench… think about that.
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It's a style of play issue imo. TSM is known for their passive play, waiting for the enemy team to make a mistake and then punishing that mistake hard, and the current roster was tailor-made to fir that style. But it just doesn't work in the current meta.

Look at SKT, the team to revolutionize that perfectionist, no-mistake style of play. They're struggling as well, and it's because that style of play doesn't work atm.
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if anything, NA has tried to lean on Koreans too much. Fly, CoreJJ, Pirean were all pretty ****ty when imported but now they're all stomping once they return home. ffs the former Phoenix 1 midlaner put Faker on the bench… think about that.
Yeah I mean what changes caused the meta to shift that way? I noticed that more champs seem viable vs. 2017, as far as I can tell.

Nukeduck on Schalke picked Zed into two tanks and a Vladamir and rekt shop on Saturday. I know he's played Zed for years but that's not a pick I'd expect to see at all in lcs vs. that comp
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Yeah I mean what changes caused the meta to shift that way? I noticed that more champs seem viable vs. 2017, as far as I can tell.

Nukeduck on Schalke picked Zed into two tanks and a Vladamir and rekt shop on Saturday. I know he's played Zed for years but that's not a pick I'd expect to see at all in lcs vs. that comp
riot made CC/Burst too strong. Since most mage/assassins have both it would be dumb not to pick them. It's slowly starting to even out though.

Zed has always been one of the biggest snowball champs tho. He gets a lead and you can't do chit except turtle to 6 items. Shut him down early and he's useless.
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riot made CC/Burst too strong. Since most mage/assassins have both it would be dumb not to pick them. It's slowly starting to even out though.

Zed has always been one of the biggest snowball champs tho. He gets a lead and you can't do chit except turtle to 6 items. Shut him down early and he's useless.
I noticed more Varus play btw as well, and he's gone through a few shifts just in the last year.

FWIW this meta is more entertaining when you watch LCS.
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Overall TSM looked like a substantially better team this weekend. Just came down to shot calling again. First game they looked very decisive while second game you could tell the times when either a call was made and not everyone agreed or no clear call was made to either fight or back off. They're looking better. Hopefully they can make playoffs and make a run.
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So I decided to give lol a try, even though I've always been a fps player since ever.
I play at hotels when im off work out of town on a hoptspot, 60 ping. (not bad).
It's been like 3 months since I started playing and I cannot rank up from gold 2(placed s1), I've got like 100+ ranked games in and a chit 53% wr, it feels like I end every weekend at g2 0 lp lol.
I was playing mid viktor and doing pretty well I thought but have been trying others roles out of frustration. I'd say 60% of my games i win lane and get a lead, the rest I usually just get cs or am avoiding alot of jg pressure so try to go even or im geting phucked by teemo rat top.
But wtf do i do when im getting gangbanged by fed enemys lol?, I feel fawkin helpless and retarded when I can't pressure or farm cause my team is weak, 1/3 games my bot completly eats chit, then their tower eats chit, then their bot comes mid and i eat chit, then my tower eats chit. Then they just run around getting all objs but we can't rly fight cause Im only even and my adc has a bf sword and im demoralized . Some games I do get extremly fed nd just 1 shot laser everything that even comes near me but those matchups feel rare or Im just not consistent.
I need some starter tips for someone who knows how to pilot his champ but is still an idiot at the game, idk what help anyone could offer since you haven't actually seen me play and position.
But just anything that helped you get over a slump in performance.
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