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08-06-2018, 09:49 AM
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08-06-2018, 10:18 AM
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dude gold 2 after just 100+ ranked games is godlike, specially for someone who didn't transition from a MOBA or RTS. I started LoL after playing mostly CS and TF2 and it took me 500 ranked games to get to gold 5, then another 300 to get to plat 5.

with that said, as a mid even if you're not building a big lead in lane you can carry the game by shoving in your enemy laner and roaming to sidelanes. not always possible with Vik tho since your waveclear is not the best until you one shot the casters with E and you have quite a few bad matchups that will keep you under turret. imho Vik is the kind of champ who will inevitably have games where you can't impact the map during laning just due to the scaling and lack of setup in his kit, then you'll rely on your teammates to not feed too hard before you get items.

try taking other champs for a spin so you can pick them into what would be bad Viktor matchups. if you like mages, Syndra and Xerath are good at early laning and shoving the enemy in so you get chance to impact sidelanes. if you want to figure out the champs that are good vs Viktor try Fizz and Talon.
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08-06-2018, 10:41 AM
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So I decided to give lol a try, even though I've always been a fps player since ever.
I play at hotels when im off work out of town on a hoptspot, 60 ping. (not bad).
It's been like 3 months since I started playing and I cannot rank up from gold 2(placed s1), I've got like 100+ ranked games in and a chit 53% wr, it feels like I end every weekend at g2 0 lp lol.
I was playing mid viktor and doing pretty well I thought but have been trying others roles out of frustration. I'd say 60% of my games i win lane and get a lead, the rest I usually just get cs or am avoiding alot of jg pressure so try to go even or im geting phucked by teemo rat top.
But wtf do i do when im getting gangbanged by fed enemys lol?, I feel fawkin helpless and retarded when I can't pressure or farm cause my team is weak, 1/3 games my bot completly eats chit, then their tower eats chit, then their bot comes mid and i eat chit, then my tower eats chit. Then they just run around getting all objs but we can't rly fight cause Im only even and my adc has a bf sword and im demoralized . Some games I do get extremly fed nd just 1 shot laser everything that even comes near me but those matchups feel rare or Im just not consistent.
I need some starter tips for someone who knows how to pilot his champ but is still an idiot at the game, idk what help anyone could offer since you haven't actually seen me play and position.
But just anything that helped you get over a slump in performance.
Dam gold 2 after only 100 games and just started playing sounds pretty solid.


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So I decided to give lol a try, even though I've always been a fps player since ever.
I play at hotels when im off work out of town on a hoptspot, 60 ping. (not bad).
It's been like 3 months since I started playing and I cannot rank up from gold 2(placed s1), I've got like 100+ ranked games in and a chit 53% wr, it feels like I end every weekend at g2 0 lp lol.
I was playing mid viktor and doing pretty well I thought but have been trying others roles out of frustration. I'd say 60% of my games i win lane and get a lead, the rest I usually just get cs or am avoiding alot of jg pressure so try to go even or im geting phucked by teemo rat top.
But wtf do i do when im getting gangbanged by fed enemys lol?, I feel fawkin helpless and retarded when I can't pressure or farm cause my team is weak, 1/3 games my bot completly eats chit, then their tower eats chit, then their bot comes mid and i eat chit, then my tower eats chit. Then they just run around getting all objs but we can't rly fight cause Im only even and my adc has a bf sword and im demoralized . Some games I do get extremly fed nd just 1 shot laser everything that even comes near me but those matchups feel rare or Im just not consistent.
I need some starter tips for someone who knows how to pilot his champ but is still an idiot at the game, idk what help anyone could offer since you haven't actually seen me play and position.
But just anything that helped you get over a slump in performance.
I can give you a couple of tips I've noticed while climbing the ladder every season since s2 (skipped s6). I usually get stuck at plat 1/diamond 5

-If you strictly want to climb and not have fun, you need to play meta champs that pros are playing. They do it for a reason, because the balance team ****ed up.
-Viktor and other similar immobile mages are tricky to carry with. He's a strong laner, and you can get to a point where you consistently win lane 90%+ of the time. But even with TP, his map pressure and mobility is very limited. This means you have to rely on your jungler for map control, or on your top laner for split pushing. What you've probably realized by now is that you can't rely on any monkeys you get matched up with.
-The two most effective ways for me to climb have been mobile mid assassins (often times out of meta), and jungling with whoever is op. Keep in mind jungling is a lot harder macro wise, you need to be watching what 9 other people are doing.
-Another option (which isn't fun for me) is to pick a strong late game split pusher (trynd, singed, jax, irelia, etc), get consistent with early game laning, and then split all game. This strat is the least reliant on your team members, and usually even complete monkeys can win if you pull 3 of the enemies top.
-Avoid playing bot lane. Heavily reliant on jg and support, and adc requires the highest mechanics in order to carry yourself up the ladder.
-Also queue dodging is a valid strategy for climbing, but I don't have the patience. If you see your team picked weak champs and overall garbage comp, vs a clearly stacked team, better to take the -3LP than the -20LP and 20min game.

53% isn't too bad of a winrate btw
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08-06-2018, 01:51 PM
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08-06-2018, 02:17 PM
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dude gold 2 after just 100+ ranked games is godlike, specially for someone who didn't transition from a MOBA or RTS. I started LoL after playing mostly CS and TF2 and it took me 500 ranked games to get to gold 5, then another 300 to get to plat 5.

with that said, as a mid even if you're not building a big lead in lane you can carry the game by shoving in your enemy laner and roaming to sidelanes. not always possible with Vik tho since your waveclear is not the best until you one shot the casters with E and you have quite a few bad matchups that will keep you under turret. imho Vik is the kind of champ who will inevitably have games where you can't impact the map during laning just due to the scaling and lack of setup in his kit, then you'll rely on your teammates to not feed too hard before you get items.

try taking other champs for a spin so you can pick them into what would be bad Viktor matchups. if you like mages, Syndra and Xerath are good at early laning and shoving the enemy in so you get chance to impact sidelanes. if you want to figure out the champs that are good vs Viktor try Fizz and Talon.
I really like the game, so different from anything else I've played.
I've been trying fizz lately, he's alot different from what im used to as far as playstyle . And yeah I tried him cause of how hard he chit on me as vik lol. I also perma ban talon :P



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I can give you a couple of tips I've noticed while climbing the ladder every season since s2 (skipped s6). I usually get stuck at plat 1/diamond 5

-If you strictly want to climb and not have fun, you need to play meta champs that pros are playing. They do it for a reason, because the balance team ****ed up.
-Viktor and other similar immobile mages are tricky to carry with. He's a strong laner, and you can get to a point where you consistently win lane 90%+ of the time. But even with TP, his map pressure and mobility is very limited. This means you have to rely on your jungler for map control, or on your top laner for split pushing. What you've probably realized by now is that you can't rely on any monkeys you get matched up with.
-The two most effective ways for me to climb have been mobile mid assassins (often times out of meta), and jungling with whoever is op. Keep in mind jungling is a lot harder macro wise, you need to be watching what 9 other people are doing.
-Another option (which isn't fun for me) is to pick a strong late game split pusher (trynd, singed, jax, irelia, etc), get consistent with early game laning, and then split all game. This strat is the least reliant on your team members, and usually even complete monkeys can win if you pull 3 of the enemies top.
-Avoid playing bot lane. Heavily reliant on jg and support, and adc requires the highest mechanics in order to carry yourself up the ladder.
-Also queue dodging is a valid strategy for climbing, but I don't have the patience. If you see your team picked weak champs and overall garbage comp, vs a clearly stacked team, better to take the -3LP than the -20LP and 20min game.

53% isn't too bad of a winrate btw
I've almost had people running it down to me lvl 1 as vik cause they dont expect the dmg, I get 1st blood at lvl 3 almost every game if I have landed all my poke up to that point.
I know I have 6 item slots but usually games are over when I get to 2 1/2 + my augment, so that seems weird to me lol.
I've struggled keeping up with laners that push me in, until I get my E upgraded with 4 points in.
I always ward my bot pixel bush with pink to help with roams, but ive had laners not even react to me spamming them danger as my lane walks through wards. I have been able to move in time when I spot them and make it be in our favor but others if my ward is cleared by the jg I'll be too late, so i just push my lane hard then I get flamed for not following even though I know I would never make it in time. I've been resorting to /mute all.
One matchup I just cannot win is vs zed, I just build armor before anything and try to get farm. Apparently viktor is a counter but I'm just terrible at the matchup I guess.
I want to hop in a side lane after I've gotten mid tower for gold/exp but my team always seems to fight when im the furthest away or back when i draw 3 and spend like 300 gold instead of pushing out other lanes, this is like every other game. I can't jg, the only thing that gets me by in mid is being pretty good 1v1 at my skill level i guess. And i've gotten pretty good at finding their jg so I rarely die to ganks.
I struggle most after lane phase trying to keep my farm up and being in the right place. Im hoping to get decent at fizz and try roaming more since that seems to be what everyone is saying.

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I really like the game, so different from anything else I've played.
I've been trying fizz lately, he's alot different from what im used to as far as playstyle . And yeah I tried him cause of how hard he chit on me as vik lol. I also perma ban talon :P





I've almost had people running it down to me lvl 1 as vik cause they dont expect the dmg, I get 1st blood at lvl 3 almost every game if I have landed all my poke up to that point.
I know I have 6 item slots but usually games are over when I get to 2 1/2 + my augment, so that seems weird to me lol.
I've struggled keeping up with laners that push me in, until I get my E upgraded with 4 points in.
I always ward my bot pixel bush with pink to help with roams, but ive had laners not even react to me spamming them danger as my lane walks through wards. I have been able to move in time when I spot them and make it be in our favor but others if my ward is cleared by the jg I'll be too late, so i just push my lane hard then I get flamed for not following even though I know I would never make it in time. I've been resorting to /mute all.
One matchup I just cannot win is vs zed, I just build armor before anything and try to get farm. Apparently viktor is a counter but I'm just terrible at the matchup I guess.
I want to hop in a side lane after I've gotten mid tower for gold/exp but my team always seems to fight when im the furthest away or back when i draw 3 and spend like 300 gold instead of pushing out other lanes, this is like every other game. I can't jg, the only thing that gets me by in mid is being pretty good 1v1 at my skill level i guess. And i've gotten pretty good at finding their jg so I rarely die to ganks.
I struggle most after lane phase trying to keep my farm up and being in the right place. Im hoping to get decent at fizz and try roaming more since that seems to be what everyone is saying.

Thanks for the advice
Fizz is definitely gonna be easier to climb with than Viktor.
And yea, 6 item games are much rarer nowadays. Riot has been trying to shorten average game length over the years.
Viktor has some of the better mid laner clear, so make sure you're not neglecting wave management to harass. If you need to push, always try to hit minions AND the enemy laner.
Buying wards for your team definitely doesn't hurt, but I've found that until you get to diamond, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. Obvi keep warding for yourself though.
Zed is busted and I think should be banned most games - he just snowballs way too hard. I wouldn't say Viktor counters him, since he has no reliable hard cc. I'd definitely ask for jg help in that matchup early.
I found that playing and getting better at jg helped me a lot with mid lane roaming, and as you said keeping track of enemy jungler. Knowing when to back and rotate lanes is important for 1v9 carrying.

Farming after lane phase is one of the hardest things in the game imo. I still can't do it, and most games have to rely on my lane farm + snowballing with kills. The only time i get 200+ farm after lane phase is when I'm split pushing. It's usually fine if you don't get the farm but your adc gets it. The losses come when nobody gets the farm
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08-06-2018, 04:28 PM
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One matchup I just cannot win is vs zed, I just build armor before anything and try to get farm. Apparently viktor is a counter but I'm just terrible at the matchup I guess.
I want to hop in a side lane after I've gotten mid tower for gold/exp but my team always seems to fight when im the furthest away or back when i draw 3 and spend like 300 gold instead of pushing out other lanes, this is like every other game. I can't jg, the only thing that gets me by in mid is being pretty good 1v1 at my skill level i guess. And i've gotten pretty good at finding their jg so I rarely die to ganks.
I struggle most after lane phase trying to keep my farm up and being in the right place. Im hoping to get decent at fizz and try roaming more since that seems to be what everyone is saying.

Thanks for the advice
I main Zed. I don't see the point in building armor as Viktor, just get your Zhonyas and usual AP items (or the tankier items like Abyssal Mask) and poke him with your superior range pre-level 3. Other pointers:

-Stay behind minions to mitigate Shuriken damage. EZ with ur Death Ray.
-His Level 1 Shadow is on 22 second cooldown before CD reduction. Ask for the Jungler to pounce him after he throws his Shadow for maximum kill chance.
-When he ults you, drop Gravity Field on yourself, try and dodge a Shuriken or 3 and dps him. Or use Zhonyas.

If Zed gets scared of you and buys Maw instead of the usual Duskblade > Youmuu to stay alive, he won't be quite as deadly.

He can also get ahead easy if he kills you then ganks botlane, so ping for your boyos. A good Zed will GG you for that.

edit: or you can just roll Fizz and make Zeds cry.
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Looks like Riot is getting #metoo'd right now. Big article in Kotaku about their anti-woman workplace. RIP Riot Games, it's been real.
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Looks like Riot is getting #metoo'd right now. Big article in Kotaku about their anti-woman workplace. RIP Riot Games, it's been real.
tbh I've met a few high-ranking Rioters IRL and some of them are just off. Lyte specially came off as a weirdo, really struggled to explain what he did in plain terms, said he owed his career to a bunch of pop psych/motivation books and his GF looked half his age, while hardly interacting with anyone else. plenty of neckbeards with power in there, no doubt some of them exercise it just as they would in a SoloQ game.
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tbh I've met a few high-ranking Rioters IRL and some of them are just off. Lyte specially came off as a weirdo, really struggled to explain what he did in plain terms, said he owed his career to a bunch of pop psych/motivation books and his GF looked half his age, while hardly interacting with anyone else. plenty of neckbeards with power in there, no doubt some of them exercise it just as they would in a SoloQ game.
I'm not that surprised. I just finished the article this morning and 80% of it was the typical "white men bad women good" nonsense. But the actual investigative part seemed legit. Riot gonna Riot.
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on another note, is anyone else getting ****ed by the new bot meta? I'm just not adapting boyos… I loved playing scaling ADC's so I'm just avoiding the role altogether now, but I'm getting wrecked as support. can't win lane to save my life
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on another note, is anyone else getting ****ed by the new bot meta? I'm just not adapting boyos… I loved playing scaling ADC's so I'm just avoiding the role altogether now, but I'm getting wrecked as support. can't win lane to save my life
lol just played with a fer hiemers that went bot. they just pushed lane and we won by ff before 20 mins in both games. i normally play supp but i would feel bad going against that. first game was with a lux supp and second was alister.
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lol just played with a fer hiemers that went bot. they just pushed lane and we won by ff before 20 mins in both games. i normally play supp but i would feel bad going against that. first game was with a lux supp and second was alister.
yea I've only had success playing mages supp so far and cancering it up with the ADC/mage/bruiser. Lost pretty much every game I've gone more passive lane supps like Braum and Lulu. You get pushed in you lose it seems.
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yea I've only had success playing mages supp so far and cancering it up with the ADC/mage/bruiser. Lost pretty much every game I've gone more passive lane supps like Braum and Lulu. You get pushed in you lose it seems.
I just started playing rank again haven't had too bad of a time in bot lane as a support. I've just been banning heimer and its been pretty easy climbing. Just play Brand lol he's the easiest to smash lane with. When he was banned I usually play Karma or Leona. I haven't played with a mage yet just normal ADCs and so far so good.

You just lose if you play passive in general no matter what characters you play is what I've noticed. As soon as you start playing passive you just concede everything and lose a slow game.
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Bot lane is just a mess rn. Picking adc is a total coinflip, and it pretty much has to be xayah, kaisa, lucian, or jhin. If i get forced into support, i either go pyke or leblanc, and just do my own thing
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I'm literally just jungling all the time now with Warwick.. Screw these new metas etc.
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Not played in ages but tried the new game mode today and it was actually quite fun.
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geez, if y'all have some time to burn watch Afreeca Freecs vs Griffin Bo5. Some fukkin good league of legends and an upstart team maybe making Worlds out of the most competitive league.
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08-18-2018, 07:28 PM
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geez, if y'all have some time to burn watch Afreeca Freecs vs Griffin Bo5. Some fukkin good league of legends and an upstart team maybe making Worlds out of the most competitive league.
Great series


As for TSMs game today,,, I saw the draft and thought to myself welp TSM is out of playoffs. After the game I thought to myself perfect timing for the TSM playoff buff to hit
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08-19-2018, 12:55 PM
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Great series


As for TSMs game today,,, I saw the draft and thought to myself welp TSM is out of playoffs. After the game I thought to myself perfect timing for the TSM playoff buff to hit
well there's a chance TSM could still miss playoffs, Optic just won their last game. that'd be brutal
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08-19-2018, 06:00 PM
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Sven /all "gg better bot wins"

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Bjerg went god mode today holy shiet.

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08-20-2018, 09:10 AM
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gotta say… Sven should never be allowed on anything but a high mobility adc ever again. He was a liability out there to start. It didn't help that Mithy was pulling Alistar into his own carry tho lol. Excited to see the tie breaker later today.
hard to hate on a fellow wings fan but….


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