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12-15-2022, 11:19 AM
#1351
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Standard .300 blk is fine. Subsonic… I don't understand why you'd want a rifle to shoot something with less energy than a .45 ACP
as a comparison what would a 556 subsonic (for a suppressor) have energy wise? I'm no expert on ballistic energy transfer but I would think it's even less.
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12-15-2022, 11:37 AM
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as a comparison what would a 556 subsonic (for a suppressor) have energy wise? I'm no expert on ballistic energy transfer but I would think it's even less.
Subsonic 5.56 is .22 LR
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12-15-2022, 11:55 AM
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loling hard over here at americans comparing 300blk vs 5.56

imagine y'all find out that 7.62x39 exists
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12-15-2022, 12:01 PM
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7.62x39 is so amazing that the Russians made they're own version of 5.56 back is '74 and have used it to this day.

Let that sink in.




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12-15-2022, 12:03 PM
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12-15-2022, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
loling hard over here at americans discussing 300blk vs 5.56

imagine y'all find out that 7.62x39 exists
but who was availability

albeit 300 inst very good
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12-15-2022, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Subsonic 5.56 is .22 LR
can never tell if this is a seriious statement
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12-15-2022, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
they fell for american propaganda
No. Nice try. It's okay to be wrong sometimes.

They realized that a small, faster bullet is better. Because for a service rifle, it is better.
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12-15-2022, 12:18 PM
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can never tell if this is a seriious statement
.223 subsonic never took off because .22 LR exists.

Also because having a big air space inside the cartridge isn't great for reliability.
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12-15-2022, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Subsonic 5.56 is .22 LR
so basically less ballistic energy than the subsonic 300blk. I know 22 travel distance is impressive…but the put down/ballistic energy eh. Basically a small game round at that point.

All things considered the subsonic/suppressed 300 "should" have more ballistic and put down power than the subsonic 556…but its a hot topic.


If I'd want a rifle and shoot it with a can (with subs) I feel both calibers have their negatives…yet we all want the pros of using a can. Which brings me back to thinking 300blk subs and using a can is better option.
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12-15-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
but who was availability

albeit 300 inst very good
since when is x39 less available than x35? Not that I really look but always see cheap(er) x39.
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12-15-2022, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
can never tell if this is a seriious statement
it's true. It's the same weight and speed as subsonic 22lr.

45acp superiority strikes again!
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12-15-2022, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
.223 subsonic never took off because .22 LR exists.

Also because having a big air space inside the cartridge isn't great for reliability.
tbh I never see 223 subs, probably for the reason you stated, but google tells me they make 112gr 556 subs.
idk what you'd do with that round, or a 22lr sub, other than shoot rats in the garage.

In conclusion, I agree that it is 22lr (sub) in that they are, at best, extremely niche.
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12-15-2022, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted By RgrJNC⏩
dont buy that
why not?
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12-15-2022, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
tbh I never see 223 subs, probably for the reason you stated, but google tells me they make 112gr 556 subs.
idk what you'd do with that round, or a 22lr sub, other than shoot rats in the garage.

In conclusion, I agree that it is 22lr (sub) in that they are, at best, extremely niche.
112gr 556 makes more sense than the ~60 grain rounds tbh. Didn't know those were out there.
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12-15-2022, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
112gr 556 makes more sense than the ~60 grain rounds tbh. Didn't know those were out there.
55 gr 5.56 works due to its velocity. Velocity is key to create that huge temporary wound cavity.

Wouldn’t sub sonic 112gr be less effective than a 9 mm pistol round?
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12-15-2022, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
112gr 556 makes more sense than the ~60 grain rounds tbh. Didn't know those were out there.
it does, but that's close to 380 acp territory (which has a place but not in an AR imo). I'd go 300blk for subs. About the same as 45 acp but have the flexibily for supers.
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12-15-2022, 01:40 PM
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Illinois likely to pass AWB with the new year. Coinciding with the SAFE-T act (LOL).

So… we are required to register "assault" weapons with the state. $25 fee.

Any mag over ten rounds is instantly banned.

Plus more but these are the major points.

Like wtf dude……sick of this ****.
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12-15-2022, 01:43 PM
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Illinois likely to pass AWB with the new year. Coinciding with the SAFE-T act (LOL).

So… we are required to register "assault" weapons with the state. $25 fee.

Any mag over ten rounds is instantly banned.

Plus more but these are the major points.

Like wtf dude……sick of this ****.
you have to register guns you already own or are they grandfathered? do you have to destroy mags ove 10 rd or can keep them?
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12-15-2022, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By IronILLinois⏩
Illinois likely to pass AWB with the new year. Coinciding with the SAFE-T act (LOL).

So… we are required to register "assault" weapons with the state. $25 fee.

Any mag over ten rounds is instantly banned.

Plus more but these are the major points.

Like wtf dude……sick of this ****.
You should move to Missouri, bro.

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12-15-2022, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
you have to register guns you already own or are they grandfathered? do you have to destroy mags ove 10 rd or can keep them?
your rifles are grandfathered in if you register them. but we all know they will just change their minds after they have their list. look at whats happening in Connecticut. you cannot keep the mags.

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You should move to Missouri, bro.

IronMissouri has a nice ring to it.
i just finished nursing school this week. all my family and friends are here. believe me i want to move, but i need some time.
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12-15-2022, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
You should move to Missouri, bro.

IronMissouri has a nice ring to it.
IronMiss for short.

tried to edit my post to agree with your previous one, but edited yours instead. SORRY!
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12-15-2022, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
IronMiss for short.

tried to edit my post to agree with your previous one, but edited yours instead. SORRY!
No worries. I thought maybe I had written some dumb **** and you were just looking out for me. lol
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12-15-2022, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
it does, but that's close to 380 acp territory (which has a place but not in an AR imo). I'd go 300blk for subs. About the same as 45 acp but have the flexibily for supers.
subsonic blackout weighs 220gr so it looks like they thought of that. However, subsonic x39 is also around 200 gr. I'd probably go that route now that I think about it more. 45acp is perfect for pdw subsonic suppressed though.
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12-15-2022, 02:31 PM
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All subsonic ball ammo is for training and range fun.

The is some nasty subsonic 300 blk expanding defense/hunting ammo though. Stuff that the military didn't have when they were toying with 300 blk in the field.


https://lehighdefense.com/308-diamet...-50-count.html
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12-15-2022, 02:31 PM
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My AR arrives tomorrow at the ffl dealer.


How fuked are the gun laws going to get or are at the moment and what do I need to stock up on.
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12-15-2022, 02:59 PM
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45acp superiority strikes again!
*Clears throat*

*Inhales deeply*

*Screams in two world wars*
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
My AR arrives tomorrow at the ffl dealer.


How fuked are the gun laws going to get or are at the moment and what do I need to stock up on.
Ammo and mags

What optic have you chosen?
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12-15-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
*Clears throat*

*Inhales deeply*

*Screams in two world wars*
What kind of degenerate doesn’t love a 1911 in .45 ACP?

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12-15-2022, 03:29 PM
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MFC right now:



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