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» Elon Musk claims we ARE living in COMPUTER SIMULATION/MATRIX!
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post 1445538563 06-02-2016, 03:04 PM
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i wouldnt say we're in a computer simulation but we probably are some sort of advance experiment created by some aliens lol
post 1445540183 06-02-2016, 03:14 PM
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I feel like it doesn't even matter unless you can escape the simulation.
post 1445541223 06-02-2016, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By niktak11
I'm arguing from a purely mathematical perspective. If there are many many simulated realities for every true reality, then chances are that we are in a simulated reality. If the assumptions I posted in a previous post hold, then this is true.

From Bockstrom:

1. "The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage (that is, one capable of running high-fidelity ancestor simulations) is very close to zero", or
2. "The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero", or
3. "The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one"

which of those do you believe is true?
tbh i've had varying thoughts on this. i dont really want to discuss it right now, but i will say an argument i've had before is this. all of the arguments you just stated seem to be under the belief this IS a simulation 100%.

i dont believe its a simulation. i believe humans are attaching meaning to something that isn't there.

the molecules don't move according to how we'd like; any meaning we attach to it is a mental construct we've attached to it ourselves.

we can maybe manipulate it in so far as what we know about it

but our brains simply evolved as a tool to help us within our environment. our environment has been replaced with things that didn't used to be there; almost don't provide enough satiety (for what it's wired for) and we get thoughts like this.

logic is a mental construct
post 1445541643 06-02-2016, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By XXLAFLAME
i wouldnt say we're in a computer simulation but we probably are some sort of advance experiment created by some aliens lol
Are the aliens also an advanced experiment, from even more advanced aliens?
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post 1445541823 06-02-2016, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By krazy33
tbh i've had varying thoughts on this. i dont really want to discuss it right now, but i will say an argument i've had before is this. all of the arguments you just stated seem to be under the belief this IS a simulation 100%.

i dont believe its a simulation. i believe humans are attaching meaning to something that isn't there.

the molecules don't move according to how we'd like; any meaning we attach to it is a mental construct we've attached to it ourselves.

we can maybe manipulate it in so far as what we know about it

but our brains simply evolved as a tool to help us within our environment. our environment has been replaced with things that didn't used to be there; almost don't provide enough satiety (for what it's wired for) and we get thoughts like this.

logic is a mental construct
But if you aren't denying any of those assumptions then the result is that the probability of any single reality being a base reality is very very small. This probability is the result, not the assumption.
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post 1445545423 06-02-2016, 03:49 PM
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I think this too whenever I trip on too many psychedelics lol
post 1445547603 06-02-2016, 04:03 PM
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Here's what some people call a bug in class Physics of WorldSimulator.java (dry humor for my CS brahs)

The double slit experiment:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPe...el=BradCameron
post 1445553243 06-02-2016, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By niktak11
But if you aren't denying any of those assumptions then the result is that the probability of any single reality being a base reality is very very small. This probability is the result, not the assumption.
im not sure you understand how deep this goes..

you seem to be operating under the pretense that this "simulation" is for sure

there are a lot of disturbing thoughts about this stuff. it can even go so far as the ego being an illusion brought on by language; which gives questions to consciousness

there are anti-materialist theories that result from that.

a lot of stupid chit mayne; some of it's impossible to talk about without the requisite knowledge of quantum mechanics.

for anti-materialist theories, there was a harvard study that proved that neurons within the head can't act as fast as the speed of light.
post 1445556503 06-02-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By JDizleSwoleizle
In after Proudmanlet?
lol
post 1445558143 06-02-2016, 05:10 PM
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this goes completely and utterly against my views that Jaden Smith is Satan and that he is indeed a pioneer... How can eyes be real?

I dont know what to think anymore
post 1445564503 06-02-2016, 06:01 PM
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This theory is similar to the idea that all except source, oneness, God etc is an illusion. Essentially a virtual reality.
post 1445593633 06-02-2016, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant
Are the aliens also an advanced experiment, from even more advanced aliens?
ayy lmao
post 1445611273 06-02-2016, 10:15 PM
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Ah yes, just watched this clip and knew there would be a misc thread on it somewhere. Fascinating stuff gents.
post 1445612133 06-02-2016, 10:21 PM
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Always blows my mind trying to answer the question how or why we got here.
post 1445612633 06-02-2016, 10:24 PM
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post 1445612743 06-02-2016, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Ayudha
Top O' the morning pupper....



*respawn in 7 sec
are people who die, just respawning out of a vagina as soon as they dead.
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Originally Posted By EnderG60
It saddens me when smart people dont understand analogies used by really smart people.

We are not living in a simulation or a hologram. We simply can only perceive a few dimensions of the many that exist, similar to how a hologram looks 3D but is actually 2D, we only see a 4D representation of a universe that has as many as 11 dimensions.

Technically he is correct in saying that we wont be able to tell a difference between real input from out senses vs artificial in the near future, but come on man. Stop trying to blow the minds of average people with wrong information.
Here I was thinking I was the only one who couldn't fully connect Elon's arguments to the "simulation"
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post 1445646703 06-03-2016, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted By DeusExTerra
Ah yes, just watched this clip and knew there would be a misc thread on it somewhere. Fascinating stuff gents.
hehe ty men
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