basically this. conservatism is about tradition and status quo, and "progressivism" (called liberalism here erroneously) is about change. there are no positive/negative correlations, just political definitions that apparently no miscers know, because "education is brainwashing" or something.

the whole "left/right" political dichotomy comes from the french revolution, where those in the aristocracy and people who generally wanted the monarchy to stay say on the right, and those who wanted things to change sat left.wouldn't go this far as to call the the right "regressive", but the mainstream american right can't really be called progressive without changing what words mean.liberalism is not, and has never been status quo among most americans. "race mixing" was still a legitimate crime until 2004 in Alabama. not just "on the books", you could be charged and criminally prosecuted for it. if you call the recent american trend of giving people who didn't have full rights their rights the "liberal status quo" then you are evidence that this country was, and still is, a conservative wonderland

The definition of the words haven't changed. The circumstances around them have.

Think about it. Let's assume you hold certain views (what they are isn't important). In fact, let's say an entire society holds those views (or most of the society anyway). After a while, those views become the norm. They are the status quo. So, let's say those views are prevalent for 100 years or so. They are now "The Establishment".

Any newer ideas that don't conform to the views established in the above paragraph would be considered "liberal" or "progressive", right?

Ok, so let's assume the newly implemented "progressive" views are now publicly held for 100 years (or an extended period of time, whatever, a "while"). Now those formerly "progressive" ideas have been the status quo long enough to become the Establishment. So, anyone fighting to maintain those views is now a conservative, fighting to maintain the values their society has held for a significant period of time.

Then new ideas come along again, and the process repeats itself. Once progressive individuals find themselves (or their ancestors find themselves) conservatives in the sense that they are fighting to maintain the status quo; Traditional Values (tradition being the operative word here).

So, leftist ideas have been the status quo for some time now. They are the establishment. Ergo, those leftists fighting to maintain those ideals are conservative in that they want to maintain the status quo.

Right wingers, who are bringing back "new" (they're older than the leftist ideals but they're new in the sense that they'd at least be different than the status quo) ideas, are actually pushing for progress/change.

The left has become the stodgy, unmoving Establishment. "The Man", if you will. The right is pushing for change.

Not denying that liberal ideals have become more commonplace, that's for sure. I'd say that it's gone too far. A line has to be drawn somewhere

Whats next, acceptance of bestiality? ****s? etc.

Honestly I don't even need to. Comparing today to then, is proof in itself.

idk about you and your frat, but I've seen frat guys on the subway with Make America Great Again hats, and somehow I get the impression that their supporting Trump has less to do with agreeing with his stances and policies than it does with trolling people, voting for the so-called "racist" candidate (I don't think he is racist or bigoted at all btw), and being part of another "boys club". Frat guys I've seen for Trump are closer to the redneck type looking to express their prejudices and feelings of superiority/racism than the rational voter who just has heard from both sides and feels that Trumps policies are what they feel is better for the country. Just my experience.