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ยป Miscers that claim to make 120k at 25 with a trade.
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post 1524456351 10-31-2017, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By r0bo
this is simple statistics. these numbers aren't made up and it should't be hard for anyone to interpret. All I am suggesting is that on average the vast majority in a specific job will earn closer to the average that is compiled by the bureau of labor than people are claiming anecdotally. If you work 100 hours a week and have hazard pay etc, then you are the outlier. You could make the same claim with any subset - of course more specifics will increase accuracy, but that doesn't detract from the larger data point.
First, it does appear difficult for some people to understand. Second, the categories of work are flawed...as they are too overarching. You were willing to admit that you need to break down "medical doctors" by specialty. To get a more accurate figure for some of the categories they have, you need to break it down further.
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post 1524456751 10-31-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By wesleysh21
First, it does appear difficult for some people to understand. Second, the categories of work are flawed...as they are too overarching. You were willing to admit that you need to break down "medical doctors" by specialty. To get a more accurate figure for some of the categories they have, you need to break it down further.
an equipment operator differs from a crane operator, correct? Their title will vary. Their pay will vary. They are exclusive and aren't lumped together. furthermore, their pay won't vary by that much - save those specialists. which again, drive the average up anyways.
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes537021.htm
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction...-operators.htm

i agree that it's broad, but the average crane operator is not making twice the salary of the average equipment operator, based on those numbers.

you know what too much specificity gets you? anecdotal evidence.
post 1524459161 10-31-2017, 01:16 PM
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post 1524462471 10-31-2017, 01:46 PM
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Tradie here. Made 180k at my employment income. Used my tradie skills to build and sell a house and made another 200k on top of that. Rental properties increased my networth another 300k

That feel when youre a 26 year old tradie making more then most CEO's srs
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post 1524463301 10-31-2017, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
Actually its possible. If youre a journeyman in IL which takes 5 years you make at minimum 45 an hour. Add in overtime which is time and a half and double time on sundays and there you go. No OT for a carpenter at 46.50 an hour is 96k
'Average journeyman pay in IL near chicago is $30 an hour..
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post 1524464441 10-31-2017, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By metallicide
'Average journeyman pay in IL near chicago is $30 an hour..
No its not. Look at the actual union statistics. Machine operators are at 42-50+ HVAC is at 43 iron workers are at 46 carpenters are at 46.50. Electricians are at 47

Total benefits package included for each is 150-200k

Look up locals 150, 73, 134, and whatever else you find.
post 1524465421 10-31-2017, 02:11 PM
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I did payroll for a union plumbing and HVAC contractor and I can 100% confirm that guys make 120k at 25 years old.
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post 1524465761 10-31-2017, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
No its not. Look at the actual union statistics. Machine operators are at 42-50+ HVAC is at 43 iron workers are at 46 carpenters are at 46.50. Electricians are at 47

Total benefits package included for each is 150-200k

Look up locals 150, 73, 134, and whatever else you find.
guess it all depends... all of my tradie friends make now here near that and can barely afford to live lol... But I don't doubt your information, im sure it differs down here.
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post 1524467031 10-31-2017, 02:23 PM
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Yuge difference between union, and non union tradesmen. Union tradies are top tier in their field...they go through 5 years of apprenticeship before making it to JW. The quality of work usually speaks for itself.

The problem is that many tradies don't have financial sense. They spend money on monster trucks, rzrs, campers, etc and don't save anything. Many of them make way more than cubical slaves, but lack the proper discipline to invest and save.
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post 1524467911 10-31-2017, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Jms89
Yuge difference between union, and non union tradesmen. Union tradies are top tier in their field...they go through 5 years of apprenticeship before making it to JW. The quality of work usually speaks for itself.

The problem is that many tradies don't have financial sense. They spend money on monster trucks, rzrs, campers, etc and don't save anything. Many of them make way more than cubical slaves, but lack the proper discipline to invest and save.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on union vs non union. But when you have a union company working for you, it is comforting to know if they need to man up the job they can simply call the hall and get it done.
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