I tried all the fad diets and this one did not help me stay lean after cutting. I gained all the lbs back in like a week of maintenace. What i'm doing now, short IF and eating when hungry and stopping when satisfied (not full) has done wonders. Also eating less protein has made me shed fat surprisenly and i still have all my strength and size

Classic case of operator error. Don’t blame it on the diet

sounds like you went back to chips and soda

Intermittent fasting, The Martin Berkhan version (''Lean Gains'') is great aswell. You eat low carb, high fat/protein on rest days. Low fat high carb/protein on rest days. Its very effective (srs)

I could never go full keto.

Leaner face, skin almost completely cleared up, eczema went away. YMMV but yeah, switching to keto was a game changer srs.

Interesting

only if you do workouts to tone you face along with it

Keto only works if you're a manlet. I need too many calories a day to cut out carbs

no.

IF > *

youtube dr fung fasting

I use IF and it BLOOOWWWWSS every other diet out of the water. Not even close. And so freakin easy.

#insulin

Yes esepcially If you run cheeky creatine powder Nah mean?

[QUOTE=cojones539 post_id=1536055911]Get your broscience bullchit out of here. It’s actually up to 192g/carbs a day for some individuals.

Son, I’m about to fuk you up with some truth:

[URL=https://www.vladozlatos.com/project/files/pages/586/ketogenic-diets-for-weight-loss-a-review-of-their-principles-safety-and-efficacy.pdf]https://www.vladozlatos.com/project/...d-efficacy.pdf[/URL]


[img]https://i.imgur.com/SXeZEBY.jpg[img][/QUOTE]I do a[u]low carb[/u]diet, but that's a separate animal (as you link suggests) than keto.[QUOTE=cosm0 post_id=1536058681]Has there been long term studies on ketogenic diets? I think our bodies are made to have carbs, do we know what damage neglecting carbs does long term? Genuinely wondering.[/QUOTE]None. Carbs are not a necessary nutrient. Its just a less complex molecule. All their components are contained within the other two.[QUOTE=Scythas post_id=1536062511]I'm not that super hardcore about it. I'll eat carbs on Xmas, then go back to keto after[/QUOTE]All work and no play makes Jack a very dull boy. Carbs taste good. Having them once in a while won't hurt, and provide a treat to reinforce all your effort and hard work. Go ahead and enjoy the cuisine.[QUOTE=FlexLex post_id=1536136931]Retarded diet. You eventually break down proteins and fats in order to produce glycogen, the body doesnt just get rid of all its glycogen stores and then keep them that way. All these "fad" diets are not sustainable. Eat a well rounded diet and cut caloric intake if you need to lose weight, add calories if need to gain weight. You dont stop eating carbs and suddenly tap into the holy grail of anything, you are probably just taxing your kidneys a bit more in order to filter out all the nitrates from added protein breakdown.[/QUOTE]Its more complicated than that. You can cut calories and still be fat, i.e. skinny fat.

Nothing you provided says anything on any claim I made. I never stated high fat diets are bad or even that there wasnt merit to them. The retarded part comes from you thinking that you somehow "shift" your body into preferring certain types of fuels like their is an on off switch inside your stomach that has a carb and fat option. totally retarded. Again, not one bit of science presented or even a tad bit of understanding of physiology or even entry level bio. What is your degree in? I can guarantee it isnt anything science or health related because you sound totally retarded

what's your degree on? you sound like a nutcase. a typical jersey bro with a shiit useless nutrition degree. post some pics so we can see how horrible you look. all the butthurt negs in the world won't change that lol

Not the best analogy. It's actually very similar to what actually happens.To be fair, most of this is pretty general.

u wot m8. Oh the irony of you calling me retarded

Certain tissues like the central nervous system, notably the brain, cannot use fat as fuel, because fatty acids cannot cross the blood-brain barrier. So when glucose is scarce in the diet as a result of a low carbohydrate intake, the liver converts fatty acids to ketones, which the brain can use (up to ~75% of energy needs). Specifically, during ketogenesis the liver converts acetyl-CoA to 3 ketone bodies.

1. Acetoacetate, which isn’t very prevalent.
2. β-hydroxybutyric acid (bHB), the primary ketone though it’s actually strictly speaking not a ketone.
3. Acetone, which doesn’t really do much except give you the distinct ‘keto breath’ when it is expelled via the lungs, causing a somewhat sweet and fruity odor that some people smell during a ketogenic diet.

Ketones are water soluble equivalents of fatty acids. Acetoacetate and β-hydroxybutyrate can therefore be transported by the blood to peripheral tissues, where they can be converted back to acetyl-CoA and oxidized through the TCA cycle. Fatty acids cannot be freely transported in the blood stream because of their hydrophobic properties. The transport of fatty acids in the blood stream is carried out by VLDL and chylomicron. In addition to their advantage over fatty acids in ease of transport, ketones can replace glucose as fuel in most of the body. Certain tissues, such as heart muscle and the renal cortex, actually preferentially use ketones to glucose.

Gluconeogenesis only converts protein at 57%. Even on 1.75g protein/kg/d you can still achieve deep ketosis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6865776


So yes, you can shift fuel types in your body. Again, you're a pseudo intellectual ******* with a pathetic understanding of ketogenic dieting and most likely a pathetic physique as well. Your rationale for why a ketogenic diet is "retarded" was merely something that you pulled out of your ass

U mad?guy has no idea wtf he's talking about, highly doubt he has a degree at all. Even used the incorrect form of there/their/they're in his post.

Potato's gonna potate

Interesting

That's understandable

good night sweet t-levels after a while bro

high fat diet = increased anabolic hormone production doe

My T levels shall thank me

Interesting point

found keto made my eczema worse. Especially on my back.

all this dieting to go from invisible to women, to invisible to only prime women

it's the stress on your body to produce and use ketones
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20091182

How so?

I see

Does this really work? For instance I like to have 3 cups of California mix veggies at dinner, that's 150 calories and 30 grams of carbs. Could I just ignore these carbs and be keto?

Also what do you eat pre/post workout for energy? I like to have 2 cups of skim milk pre/post training (so that's 26 grams of carbs before and after training) and the veggies I mention above, which would be all my carbs for the day. Rest of my diet is eggs, protein powder and meat. I've lost a ton of weight but find myself stressing over the details.

cool

do the benefits outweigh the positives on this one?

Lol

It's subjective