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lardlord bloatqueen gets in the way of a car during a protest and............
lardlord bloatqueen gets in the way of a car during a protest and............
05-22-2018, 11:52 AM
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#121
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Where did you get your Juris Doctor?My advice was what would be the best course of action legally. Obviously, in practice, if you can just kill them and get away with it, that would be the best outcome for you, but it wouldn't be legal.
05-22-2018, 11:53 AM
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#122
Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
And I will neg you back because you completely misunderstood my point. I would be scared. I would also be more than happy to see everyone die. My point was what the law says, not how I personally felt about it. My advice was what you should do if you want to avoid being charged with a crime. Obviously, if you are willing to commit crimes, you can. BTW while it could be construed as false imprisonment, that has never held up in court for the situation of protesters blocking cars ever. You should get the fukk out of here and upgrade your reasoning and reading skills, you worthless pile of inbred dogchit. Next time there is a big protest, go drive down there and do it your way. Don't say I didn't fuking warn you.After reading a few of your posts, I'm going to neg you even though I seldom do that. Don't give a fukk about your reps either, neg me back I don't care.
Yeah, I'm sure you wouldn't be scared if you were caught up in a riot you had nothing to do with hoodlums surrounding your car, falsly imprisoning you by blocking the car and shouting obscenities at you. Get the fukk out of here. Plus it's hard to call that "attempted murder" when the fat bitch refused to move even when the car was going 2mph at first and she didn't directly hit her despite the fat bitch standing right in front of the vehicle.
Yeah, I'm sure you wouldn't be scared if you were caught up in a riot you had nothing to do with hoodlums surrounding your car, falsly imprisoning you by blocking the car and shouting obscenities at you. Get the fukk out of here. Plus it's hard to call that "attempted murder" when the fat bitch refused to move even when the car was going 2mph at first and she didn't directly hit her despite the fat bitch standing right in front of the vehicle.
05-22-2018, 11:55 AM
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#123
Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
I read math. I don't need one. I am fully qualified to read definitions and comprehend them. It's kind of a big deal in my field.Where did you get your Juris Doctor?
If I am wrong in what I said, show me why. Go take what I said to a lawyer and show them the vid. See what they say.
05-22-2018, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
ur butthurt nourishes me.ITT misc "lawyers" and people who do not understand the distinction between me arguing what the law says vs what I would do neg me like the brainless plebs they are. This is why society needs lawyers. You fuking idiots are woefully unqualified to set aside your biases and you are unable to read and comprehend the law. What a fuking joke. I get negged for literally describing the law and arguing what is legal lmfao? Go fist yourselves.
wincel u don't seem to understand how wacky chit can get when legitimately conclusive evidence is given in a jury trial.
no one gif a phuck about the letter of any law my guy
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05-22-2018, 11:58 AM
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#125
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Ahh so you're not qualified to practice law?I read math. I don't need one. I am fully qualified to read definitions and comprehend them. It's kind of a big deal in my field.
So your opinion is about as relevant and open to criticism as anyone's?
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05-22-2018, 11:59 AM
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#126
Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
Ok. Take what I said to a lawyer. I'll wait. Show me what they think. I can't imagine any lawyer would disagree with what I said since that is literally what the law says.Ahh so you're not qualified to practice law?
So your opinion is about as relevant and open to criticism as anyone's?
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So your opinion is about as relevant and open to criticism as anyone's?
Get off your high horse... also strong sig.
05-22-2018, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
is murdering ppl illegal too?Ok. Take what I said to a lawyer. I'll wait. Show me what they think. I can't imagine any kawyer would disagree with what I said sonce that is literally what the law says.
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05-22-2018, 12:02 PM
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#128
Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
Uhh yeah. Again, the case of legality vs practicality being two different things. I am arguing about the legality.is murdering ppl illegal too?
Also, just so you idiots don't try anything, I am in no way shape or form offering legal advice. I am offering advice about a hypothetical situation based on my opinion of the law. I am free to formulate this opinion.
05-22-2018, 12:03 PM
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#129
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Based on your previous comment about math... you're thinking too objectively here. Situations like this are a gray area and can be argued either way by a competent attorney. That's why we have lawyers, dumbass.Ok. Take what I said to a lawyer. I'll wait. Show me what they think. I can't imagine any lawyer would disagree with what I said since that is literally what the law says.
05-22-2018, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You made the claim bro, it's up to you to prove anything.Ok. Take what I said to a lawyer. I'll wait. Show me what they think. I can't imagine any lawyer would disagree with what I said since that is literally what the law says.
05-22-2018, 12:05 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks wincel made a total asss clown of himself ITT?
05-22-2018, 12:05 PM
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05-22-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
ok, but if the driver saw a gun, and says he saw a gun, or even says he legitimately feared for his life for some other reason, he is not really even catching a case.Uhh yeah. Again, the case of legality vs practicality being two different things. I am arguing about the legality.
that video is not really remotely conclusive of anything.
here pretend im his attorney. "my client was easing into this lardbeast attempting to get her out of the way of his vehicle and extricate himself from this increasingly hostile situation. when he saw that she wasn't going to move HE STOPPED THE CAR. his girlfriend yelled at the lardbeast to get her to move. when my client saw what appeared to be a man approaching with a gun, he had no choice but to flee the scene"
aight good luck ur turn. breh no DA wants to hold an L.
if he seen a piece, what he done was not illegal. so your argument is phucked.
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05-22-2018, 12:08 PM
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#134
Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
It's you and 3 other idiots who fail to understand the distinction between what the law says vs what someone would do. For the record, I don't give a fuk about the fat sloot who got hit. I don't give a fuk about some drug dealer who fired at the SWAT team. My point was based purely on what the laws says you should do in that situation. It was not what I would do in that situation. Why is that hard to understand?Am I the only one who thinks wincel made a total asss clown of himself ITT?
05-22-2018, 12:09 PM
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05-22-2018, 12:11 PM
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#136
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You should head to the most prestigious law firm in your area and apply for an attorney position. Bless them with your reading comprehension and surely you'll get the job and be on the route to partner in a few years... making a few hundred thousand to a million per year. Surely better than whatever route you're on now.It's you and 3 other idiots who fail to understand the distinction between what the law says vs what someone would do. For the record, I don't give a fuk about the fat sloot who got hit. I don't give a fuk about some drug dealer who fired at the SWAT team. My point was based purely on what the laws says you should do in that situation. It was not what I would do in that situation. Why is that hard to understand?
05-22-2018, 12:12 PM
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#137
Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
Correct. If he saw a gun, then his actions might be deemed reasonable. You are right that in practice, there are ways to escape consequence here. However, we both can be fairly sure there was no gun. You can actually see everyone in the vid pretty easily. Those people had phones out, not guns.ok, but if the driver saw a gun, and says he saw a gun, or even says he legitimately feared for his life for some other reason, he is not really even catching a case.
that video is not really remotely conclusive of anything.
here pretend im his attorney. "my client was easing into this lardbeast attempting to get her out of the way of his vehicle and extricate himself from this increasingly hostile situation. when he saw that she wasn't going to move HE STOPPED THE CAR. his girlfriend yelled at the lardbeast to get her to move. when my client saw what appeared to be a man approaching with a gun, he had no choice but to flee the scene"
aight good luck ur turn. breh no DA wants to hold an L.
if he seen a piece, what he done was not illegal. so your argument is phucked.
that video is not really remotely conclusive of anything.
here pretend im his attorney. "my client was easing into this lardbeast attempting to get her out of the way of his vehicle and extricate himself from this increasingly hostile situation. when he saw that she wasn't going to move HE STOPPED THE CAR. his girlfriend yelled at the lardbeast to get her to move. when my client saw what appeared to be a man approaching with a gun, he had no choice but to flee the scene"
aight good luck ur turn. breh no DA wants to hold an L.
if he seen a piece, what he done was not illegal. so your argument is phucked.
05-22-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
we cannot even be remotely sure of that "fact". you would get clowned in small claims court by a redneck with a 5th grade diploma.However, we both can be fairly sure there was no gun. You can actually see everyone in the vid pretty easily.
moreover there are important matters of perception at stake here. we already know bodies have been caught by rioters from rioters in these situations. there is some situational "precedence" here.
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05-22-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
Why are you bringing a gun into this? “But if”ok, but if the driver saw a gun, and says he saw a gun, or even says he legitimately feared for his life for some other reason, he is not really even catching a case.
that video is not really remotely conclusive of anything.
here pretend im his attorney. "my client was easing into this lardbeast attempting to get her out of the way of his vehicle and extricate himself from this increasingly hostile situation. when he saw that she wasn't going to move HE STOPPED THE CAR. his girlfriend yelled at the lardbeast to get her to move. when my client saw what appeared to be a man approaching with a gun, he had no choice but to flee the scene"
aight good luck ur turn. breh no DA wants to hold an L.
that video is not really remotely conclusive of anything.
here pretend im his attorney. "my client was easing into this lardbeast attempting to get her out of the way of his vehicle and extricate himself from this increasingly hostile situation. when he saw that she wasn't going to move HE STOPPED THE CAR. his girlfriend yelled at the lardbeast to get her to move. when my client saw what appeared to be a man approaching with a gun, he had no choice but to flee the scene"
aight good luck ur turn. breh no DA wants to hold an L.
Have you considered the guy in the car is just some hot head trying to get in the mix of sh!t, and wrote a check with his mouth his ass can’t cash? It’s clear the video was edited to cut off the beginning and end for a reason.
05-22-2018, 12:14 PM
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#140
Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
Becoming a lawyer is a terrible career decision these days. Many lawyers end up being forced to work as legal assistants. I used to want to be a lawyer a long time ago.You should head to the most prestigious law firm in your area and apply for an attorney position. Bless them with your reading comprehension and surely you'll get the job and be on the route to partner in a few years... making a few hundred thousand to a million per year. Surely better than whatever route you're on now.
05-22-2018, 12:15 PM
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#141
Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
You realize there are multiple videos and witnesses right? There was no gun. Thanks to the many people recording, we could, in principle, see all angles of the car. The police would be able to establish very easily if there were a gun.we cannot even be remotely sure of that "fact". you would get clowned in small claims court by a redneck with a 5th grade diploma.
moreover there are important matters of perception at stake here. we already know bodies have been caught by rioters from rioters in these situations. there is some situational "precedence" here.
moreover there are important matters of perception at stake here. we already know bodies have been caught by rioters from rioters in these situations. there is some situational "precedence" here.
If there were a gun, I would agree that his actions would shift to the realm of reasonable. I'll concede that. But, we can assume whether a gun was there or not would be established by the evidence.
05-22-2018, 12:15 PM
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There is 0 chance this would be attempted murder. Even with poor reading comprehension skills.
05-22-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By TheRougarou646⏩
no it seems to me he stopped his car and had no intentions of running any one over, and then suddenly did. as if he saw something dangerous (a deadly threat to his life).Why are you bringing a gun into this? “But if”
Have you considered the guy in the car is just some hot head trying to get in the mix of sh!t? It’s clear the video was edited to cut off the beginning and end for a reason.
Have you considered the guy in the car is just some hot head trying to get in the mix of sh!t? It’s clear the video was edited to cut off the beginning and end for a reason.
this hypothetical is just an example of how this is not really an obvious criminal case.
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05-22-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Doesn't matter if there was a gun.You realize there are multiple videos and witnesses right? There was no gun. Thanks to the many people recording, we could, in principle, see all angles of the car. The police would be able to establish very easily if there were a gun.
All that matters is if the driver believed to have spotted one.
See how easy that was?
05-22-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
It seems like to me as soon as he thinks she’s stepped or stumbles out of the way he gunned it and inadvertently got her with the side of his car.no it seems to me he stopped his car and had no intentions of running any one over, and then suddenly did. as if he saw something dangerous (a deadly threat to his life).
this hypothetical is just an example of how this is not really an obvious criminal case.
this hypothetical is just an example of how this is not really an obvious criminal case.
05-22-2018, 12:20 PM
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#146
Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
Ok. Try running around shooting people and then tell everyone you believe they are carrying weapons and trying to kill you. See how that holds up. There have been cases of people using this, even in actual situations where they really thought it was a gun, and barring law enforcement, it almost always ends with the guy being held responsible.Doesn't matter if there was a gun.
All that matters is if the driver believed to have spotted one.
See how easy that was?
All that matters is if the driver believed to have spotted one.
See how easy that was?
05-22-2018, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
Why are you guys arguing this imaginary scenario?Doesn't matter if there was a gun.
All that matters is if the driver believed to have spotted one.
See how easy that was?
All that matters is if the driver believed to have spotted one.
See how easy that was?
Attempted murder has to show intent. I didn't see any intent in this video. Dude pushed her, stopped and gunned it. Didn't turn toward her, didn't back over her. No intent to kill.
05-22-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By TheRougarou646⏩
so what charges are they puttin on him? vehicular assault or some such? they still have to prove his intentions.It seems like to me as soon as he thinks she’s stepped or stumbles out of the way he gunned it and inadvertently got her with the side of his car.
please imagine how possible that is.
idk why im so triggered, wincel you are either autism of the law or trolling or have an extreme misperception of how charges would follow from this point.
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05-22-2018, 12:26 PM
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#149
Originally Posted By residesinAZ⏩
I can buy that. But the way he accelerated could be construed as intent to run her over. Also, at the very least, it is assault and battery with a deadly weapon. He also literally did a felony hit and run.Why are you guys arguing this imaginary scenario?
Attempted murder has to show intent. I didn't see any intent in this video. Dude pushed her, stopped and gunned it. Didn't turn toward her, didn't back over her. No intent to kill.
Attempted murder has to show intent. I didn't see any intent in this video. Dude pushed her, stopped and gunned it. Didn't turn toward her, didn't back over her. No intent to kill.
05-22-2018, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
She wasn't seriously injured and I don't think the guy was charged with anything.so what charges are they puttin on him? vehicular assault or some such? they still have to prove his intentions.
please imagine how possible that is.
idk why im so triggered, wincel you are either autism of the law or trolling or have an extreme misperception of how charges would follow from this point.
please imagine how possible that is.
idk why im so triggered, wincel you are either autism of the law or trolling or have an extreme misperception of how charges would follow from this point.
Maybe I am too autistic to get this, but I was going 100% by what the law says. It isn't always enforced objectively.
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