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They become increasingly narcissistic out of panic. Most are.on the hunt 24/7 for a "keeper", yet always fail to make any sacrifices for a relationship.

Eventually they become ultra sloots once things are hopeless, late 30's broads embrace a very liberal sexual lifestyle since they have nothing else to live for.
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Kids are not the saviors you make them out to be OP.
In fact so many of this generation were raised by single mothers.
Kids change nothing and just take toll on a mother.

Reality is the system is the problem. Not women or men.
We live in a system now where marriage is dead, and people mostly want hedonism. Women want to have fun and sex. Men want the same (even if on here its hypocritically denied).
In such a scenario both such men and women will find themselves in same situation over 30. They will die childless and alone.
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Depends on the woman of course. Based on t he females I know in real life, including family, acquaintances, and ex-girlfriends, they either:

- focus on their career

- later marry well, though almost never a guy who would've been their first choice. As in, stable, has a decent career, and treats them well, but isn't usually a guy they're attracted to.

- get a little bit more lonely and desperate every year and try to rekindle things with guys like me who were never interested in marrying them in the first place
Originally Posted By redraider86
Dunno. Really not much has changed since my 20's except for that my career is soaring and I have a lot more discretionary income to enjoy and do with as I see fit. I spent a good deal of my 20's in a sickly state, and I wonder if that has anything to do with my...let's say, reluctance to settle down in what most miscers would say is the 'right' way to do so, as if there is a right way to choose the life you want. The fact is of the matter is I am quite settled. I like what I like, and I make no apologies for that. And if I want to post pictures of the cool food I make on Instagram, so be it. Kind of blows my mind the energy some of you spend tearing apart what little bit of joy people can experience in our sometimes chitty existence. You mad I already put my Christmas (well, Fall) tree up while sipping on a pumpkin spice latte?

Very little about the traditional family life appeals to me. It's not something I crave or need, so I don't focus my energy on chasing after something that I'm not all that interested in anyway. It's not cope. I'd be coping if I had two kids under four running around while I get two hours of sleep a night posting on ******** about being a Household COO and having the toughest job in the world, but that's none of my business.
I don't think marriage and kids are for everyone, even for women. My aunt is 58 and never married. Although I think she gets lonely sometimes, she was always more focused on her education and career, and I seriously doubt that a traditional life would've suited her personality. She always saw me as her surrogate son though (hell, she even helped put me through college).
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
I don't think marriage and kids are for everyone, even for women. My aunt is 58 and never married. Although I think she gets lonely sometimes, she was always more focused on her education and career, and I seriously doubt that a traditional life would've suited her personality. She always saw me as her surrogate son though (hell, she even helped put me through college).
What I'm saying might be bull**** but I believe in evolutionary psychology and behaviors.
What I am saying is that at a very basic level, we are made to reproduce our genes, and seek ways to do so.
Men seek to reproduce their genes, as much as possible. And women, because of their biological restrictions, seek to find the one man that she will bear children for.

I think for either gender it's depressing to be childless because the evolutionary objective written in our DNA hasn't been fulfilled.
Of course then you can superimpose all the modern social behavior on this basic evolutionary behavior.

What has happened is this. Women are more focused on their career these days. But why is that? Because society made it as such. The capitalistic system made it as such. It pushed women into the workforce and created a societal narrative that incentivised it. So women today follow a more individualistic career mindedmasculinemindset, instead of settling and having children. That is leading to low birth rates in industrialised nations (or at least its one of the major reasons). Its neither good for society nor for women.

Going back to the capitalistic system, the fact that real wages stagnated for decades (on purpose by the system, yet again), also forced women to work because a single income was no longer enough.

TLDR = Modernish = ****.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Well I've gone out with some guys my age and I look at guys in my age group online. If I can date one my age that I'm attracted to that would be ideal.

Just hard to find because most guys 40+ aren't attractive, or are married, or if they have money they can date younger. So it's very different from dating in early 20s when many people are single and attractive.
There are about as many 40 year old attractive men as there are 30 year old attractive women everyone has done let themselves go
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Originally Posted By nickboy333
What I'm saying might be bull**** but I believe in evolutionary psychology and behaviors.
What I am saying is that at a very basic level, we are made to reproduce our genes, and seek ways to do so.
Men seek to reproduce their genes, as much as possible. And women, because of their biological restrictions, seek to find the one man that she will bear children for.

I think for either gender it's depressing to be childless because the evolutionary objective written in our DNA hasn't been fulfilled.
Of course then you can superimpose all the modern social behavior on this basic evolutionary behavior.

What has happened is this. Women are more focused on their career these days. But why is that? Because society made it as such. The capitalistic system made it as such. It pushed women into the workforce and created a societal narrative that incentivised it. So women today follow a more individualistic career mindedmasculinemindset, instead of settling and having children. That is leading to low birth rates in industrialised nations (or at least its one of the major reasons). Its neither good for society nor for women.

Going back to the capitalistic system, the fact that real wages stagnated for decades (on purpose by the system, yet again), also forced women to work because a single income was no longer enough.

TLDR = Modernish = ****.
I agree with your for the most part, but keep in mind that the aging spinster and the confirmed bachelor are age-old phenomena. It's actually been speculated by many that these are evolutionary adaptations as well. Humans are highly social and tribal species, and for the entirety of our history until very recently we lived in large, extended families. Helping to take care of your brothers' or sisters' kids was a very effective way of passing on at least some of your genes, especially if you didn't have much success at mating.
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i got married at 20 and now im divorced and free to smash chads so i guess I'm doing it in reverse
I think waiting to get married and have kids til your 30s is a bad idea
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Depends on the woman of course. Based on t he females I know in real life, including family, acquaintances, and ex-girlfriends, they either:

- focus on their career

- later marry well, though almost never a guy who would've been their first choice. As in, stable, has a decent career, and treats them well, but isn't usually a guy they're attracted to.

- get a little bit more lonely and desperate every year and try to rekindle things with guys like me who were never interested in marrying them in the first place



I don't think marriage and kids are for everyone, even for women. My aunt is 58 and never married. Although I think she gets lonely sometimes, she was always more focused on her education and career, and I seriously doubt that a traditional life would've suited her personality. She always saw me as her surrogate son though (hell, she even helped put me through college).
Tbh i guess this go's for women or men. I think some ppl read the title as a hate.

I was just curious since the social pressure for women to have kids, settle down was about 30s in this day an age. I was curious for older posters on here who have seen this as well and usually what happens afterward as time gos on.

Does the Kardashian lifestyle still occur, do they eventually settle.

Career oriented makes sense tho
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh
My wife is friends (and I will use this term very loosely) with a couple of these broads... lolz... I will keep tabs and report back. One is 30 the other is 31... both have great jobs... id say they are legit 8/10+... yet for the fkn life of them cant find "Mr. Right". At what point do you think they realize its them not the guys they meet?
Yea and i bet their standards are so high not even Zues almighty could fill them
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Originally Posted By Iceman1800
They become crazy cat ladies
I know a woman like that. She's a 5 at best, overweight and lives at home with two cats and she's always crying about all the men she dates (i.e can't keep a man)
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Originally Posted By nickboy333
What has happened is this. Women are more focused on their career these days. But why is that? Because society made it as such. The capitalistic system made it as such. It pushed women into the workforce and created a societal narrative that incentivised it. So women today follow a more individualistic career mindedmasculinemindset, instead of settling and having children. That is leading to low birth rates in industrialised nations (or at least its one of the major reasons). Its neither good for society nor for women.

Going back to the capitalistic system, the fact that real wages stagnated for decades (on purpose by the system, yet again), also forced women to work because a single income was no longer enough.

TLDR = Modernish = ****.
Also you have to add that when WWII started men went off to fight, while the women worked. Misc seems to forget that.
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When i go out i see older women having 0 problem.

I have hooked up with them
My friends have, etc.

We usually dont, but we have. They can definitely still get sex easily

Think they just have a hard time tying down who they want
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
Also you have to add that when WWII started men went off to fight, while the women worked. Misc seems to forget that.
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Originally Posted By CityJaeger
Most of the women that are single beyond 30's, are women that are very rigid regarding what the type of men that they want to date (i.e rich, handsome,monagamous).
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Originally Posted By nickboy333
What I'm saying might be bull**** but I believe in evolutionary psychology and behaviors.
What I am saying is that at a very basic level, we are made to reproduce our genes, and seek ways to do so.
Men seek to reproduce their genes, as much as possible. And women, because of their biological restrictions, seek to find the one man that she will bear children for.

I think for either gender it's depressing to be childless because the evolutionary objective written in our DNA hasn't been fulfilled.
Of course then you can superimpose all the modern social behavior on this basic evolutionary behavior.

What has happened is this. Women are more focused on their career these days. But why is that? Because society made it as such. The capitalistic system made it as such. It pushed women into the workforce and created a societal narrative that incentivised it. So women today follow a more individualistic career mindedmasculinemindset, instead of settling and having children. That is leading to low birth rates in industrialised nations (or at least its one of the major reasons). Its neither good for society nor for women.

Going back to the capitalistic system, the fact that real wages stagnated for decades (on purpose by the system, yet again), also forced women to work because a single income was no longer enough.

TLDR = Modernish = ****.
True about the bankers devaluing our money while owners have taken more and more of the profits for themselves.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...edium=referral

No reason that women have to always be the caretakers of small children. That mother-child bond means most will probably still be women though.

We invest in what we value. Raising children well hasn't been valued as it should be. It isn't easy, isn't for everybody, and more and more studies are popping up all the time about what a major long term impact early parenting has on we grown ups.

Probably wouldn't get off the ground but a government paid stipend for the full time caretaker of a small child (pre elementary school) could really pay off in the long term.

Would first set it up so that the parents have to complete some basic child care/parenting training in order for their child to be eligible for a government paid caretaker. The caretaker themselves would need to complete training and fulfill some basic tasks/duties to receive payment. Also being a caretaker should be their full time job; could have a part time or side gig.

A caretaker could be a first or second degree relative...mom, dad, aunt, uncle, grandma, grandpa...that the child would be primarily cared for by until they start full day school.

Why the requirements for class/training? Because early attachment is a big deal. Humans are born with brains that aren't fully developed yet and a lot is firmed up in those early years. Because you can't assume that someone knows the basics like "don't shake the baby", "don't give toddlers primarily soda to drink", "doing X is abuse". If you eliminate ignorance and something still goes down the parties involved shouldn't have the "I didn't know" defense.

Not talking living well money, just enough to make it possible. Maybe $500 a week. Could also help ease the crunch if we really do lose a massive number of jobs to automation. Someone could be primarily a caretaker while doing some part time education or training.

ETA: I mean a real money payoff by the way, not just feels. Could have fewer people in prison, dropping out of school, non-functional due to mental illness/addiction...real savings from the public coffers.
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Im assuming the expectations and their standards are really high for "mr right" but so high that it only exists in a fantasy?
Their expectations are so high that the only guys that meet them are banging 21-27 year olds in their prime, that are full of glow, with maximum fertility.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Lol why is the misc in love with these phukking retarded, depressing threads?
Y’all trying to cope, feelin better about your own lives by framing some imaginary scenario where a large demographic is doomed to an unhappy life?
Ha clearly an agenda. There are some like this but damn misc is sad asf.
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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
Tbh i guess this go's for women or men. I think some ppl read the title as a hate.

I was just curious since the social pressure for women to have kids, settle down was about 30s in this day an age. I was curious for older posters on here who have seen this as well and usually what happens afterward as time gos on.

Does the Kardashian lifestyle still occur, do they eventually settle.

Career oriented makes sense tho
This book talks about what happens to career women who hit 40 single, and don't want to be...



I found it a really insightful book. Ded Srs.

Here is an interview she did on the book...



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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
Now looking for guys in their late 30s who would actually call her on her bs instead of just comply with everything she says.
Crazy how powerful that is for chicks. I'm a pretty straight shooter, have been that way for years, and it drives chicks crazy. Not just chicks, but people in general. It means the friends I have are fukn real people, able to change, admit when they fuk up, I can tell them what they're doing wrong etc instead of this fake bullchit where "we're friends so we agree about everything".

And for a lot of chicks it's difficult to deal with it, after spending their whole lives being WKd, never being wrong, but it drives them crazy, and a lot of 'em fukn love being told the truth, telling me I'm amazing, they've never met anyone like me, "my whole life guys have treated me like a princess, and you've just made me realise that's not what I want"
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Originally Posted By hughgainz
Single by choice... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's the ultimate cope.

BTW, most women are single because they are 5-6's looking for those 9s and 10s.

I put it this way... most women have a list of traits and qualities they look for in men... and then if you ask them, of those traits and qualities... how many the women have... and it's generally half or so. So then you ask them... so if you're a 5, looking for a 9... why do you think you're going to get a 9? 9's get with 9's... you're better off looking for a 5-6 or you're going to be a sad single person...

And for 9's and 10's, I don't mean looks. I mean the number of qualities that one has that you're looking for.
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Originally Posted By Brozart
Crazy how powerful that is for chicks. I'm a pretty straight shooter, have been that way for years, and it drives chicks crazy. Not just chicks, but people in general. It means the friends I have are fukn real people, able to change, admit when they fuk up, I can tell them what they're doing wrong etc instead of this fake bullchit where "we're friends so we agree about everything".

And for a lot of chicks it's difficult to deal with it, after spending their whole lives being WKd, never being wrong, but it drives them crazy, and a lot of 'em fukn love being told the truth, telling me I'm amazing, they've never met anyone like me, "my whole life guys have treated me like a princess, and you've just made me realise that's not what I want"
Da faq u negged me for quoting? Strong estrogen lol
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It's easy.

They either shack up with a decent well done up guy that's in their late 20's.

Otherwise they aren't touched again for a relationship until their like 35 when a 55 year old needs a second wife.

That's pretty much it. Sucks to be a woman, because as a man you can always date down and they can't.
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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
That still live the clubbing lifestyle, always posting life philosophical self improving/self finding memes, pics of their trips with long ass philosophy note, weekly routine pics of drinks with the girls, posting pics of their food ect

Another trend im seeing is this whole "dirty thirty" Birthday thing. Wut lol?

Is this all cope or just riding it out until everything falls apart and just accept any Timothy out there?
Most of the less radical stereotypes are true. They try to find a guy to settle down with as soon as they can. Doesn't matter how attractive they are. They usually settle for whoever is in their life, or whoever comes along that is "good enough", and not necessarily perfect.
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