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post 1565127301 11-01-2018, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
oh, i'm measuring it right under my ribs

my gut measurement is probably closer to like 39 lol
... you measure your waist at YOUR WAIST. Bellybutton. I fuking listed how to do it last week, man. Don't breath out or in, relax and measure evenly around your fuking belly.

Dude, you need to take drastic steps. Good luck but I feel like this is more of a goodbye.
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post 1565127351 11-01-2018, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By devin45k⏩
Beer is a total killer. I went through a heavy drinking phase in my early 20s. It was the first time I was choosing beer over liquor. It made me look bloated as hell.

I dont really drink much anymore but beer still does kill me. I retain water like a bish from it even if I have one.
This. I drank pretty often and heavy years ago, beer mostly, and it makes a huge difference in your physique. I lifted the whole time as well but always had a softer look. Once i dramatically cut down on the drinking the difference was very noticeable. I had abs for the first time in my upper 30's.

Now whenever i drink beer Im like a blowfish.

Good luck OP, stick to it and the change should be significant.
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post 1565127521 11-01-2018, 11:13 AM
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[QUOTE=Ratfish post_id=1565124201]October 1 - 179lbs

[img]https://i.imgur.com/LWIjvGk.jpg[/mg]

November 1 - 171.5lbs

[img]https://i.imgur.com/RX1AzgN.jpg[img]

Waist has decreased by 1.5 inches

The difference is...not as much as I was wanting for that much weight. I dismissed the people saying I'd need to lose 25-30 but that's looking like a legit prediction. Gonna be increasing activity like an after school special about anorexia. Inb4 I'm losing zero fat and all muscle lol[/QUOTE]Location: Portland, Oregon, United States

doesn't even lift

seems about right soyo
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post 1565127651 11-01-2018, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By RazorM3⏩
Location: Portland, Oregon, United States

doesn't even lift

seems about right soyo
you're the one on grindr, gayo
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post 1565128061 11-01-2018, 11:19 AM
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u better get on PMFC or whatever its called or else ur ass is gettin banned boyo
post 1565128101 11-01-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
... you measure your waist at YOUR WAIST. Bellybutton. I fuking listed how to do it last week, man. Don't breath out or in, relax and measure evenly around your fuking belly.

Dude, you need to take drastic steps. Good luck but I feel like this is more of a goodbye.
last week was 3 weeks into how i've already been measuring it though. i lost 1.5" from where i measured it. precision seems more important than accuracy. all the fat on my body has decreased noticeably. i'm going to hold gut fat until the last gram. gonna look like a snake who swallowed an egg at the very end. don't worry, my man, i'm going to make it no matter what.
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post 1565128221 11-01-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
mathemagically speaking, 20lbs should do it though, right? 17lbs is 10%. I can lose 10lbs a month for the next two months no problem. just need to replace all sitting with moving.

i can't decrease food anymore. i'm eating just enough carbs from whole fruit to fend off hypoglycemia. protein is at 180g. fat is at like 40g (decreasing it dries my skin out and will probably make my dick fall off). i simply can't drop it anymore.
Your maths is fine. Your diet is fine too. You just made the cardinal sin of dieting. You're fatter than you think you are and its going to take you longer than you think it will

Keep doing what you're doing and take the progress as it comes.

If I'm being honest, I doubt you'll ever see abs at your level of muscle mass unless you go full anorexia
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post 1565129011 11-01-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Your maths is fine. Your diet is fine too. You just made the cardinal sin of dieting. You're fatter than you think you are and its going to take you longer than you think it will
People look at visible fat, might make a decent estimate there, totally ignore the "hidden" fat that in their muscles, making their arms and chest and everything look less cut, etc... so they figure they got 10 or so extra pounds in their belly and incorrectly assume that's what they need to lose (only) or that weight/fat loss is linear, that it remains as quick at 20% bodyfat as it does at 15% or 12% as they lean down.

It only gets harder and slower-going.

OP?

He needs to lose 20lbs, just of fat. At least. Probably 20-25. He'll probably lose 5-10lbs LBM along the way, if he does things well. Speaking of doing things well: his measuring his waist at his ribs concerns me. Measuring your waist is simple. Couldn't be easier. Dieting right, training right, factoring in adequate rest and whatnot - that can get complicated. If he's struggling with step A, how's he going to perform the harder steps?
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post 1565129251 11-01-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Your maths is fine. Your diet is fine too. You just made the cardinal sin of dieting. You're fatter than you think you are and its going to take you longer than you think it will

Keep doing what you're doing and take the progress as it comes.

If I'm being honest, I doubt you'll ever see abs at your level of muscle mass unless you go full anorexia
one funny aside that I think i mentioned earlier in the thread is that my buddy and I have a bet to see who has the lowest BF% by january 1 as well. he's been traveling europe and drinking like a fish this whole time so i figured i would stomp him. he called me a couple days ago to tell me that he's going to thailand next week to basically live at a muay thai dojo or whatever the fukk you call it until new years. said he's gonna be training like 5 hours a day. fukkkk. if i fail, i'm gonna be banned and out 600 bucks lol. i love the pressure though. no matter what happens, i'm obviously gonna clean bulk after i finish this.
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
People look at visible fat, might make a decent estimate there, totally ignore the "hidden" fat that in their muscles, making their arms and chest and everything look less cut, etc... so they figure they got 10 or so extra pounds in their belly and incorrectly assume that's what they need to lose (only) or that weight/fat loss is linear, that it remains as quick at 20% bodyfat as it does at 15% or 12% as they lean down.

It only gets harder and slower-going.

OP?

He needs to lose 20lbs, just of fat. At least. Probably 20-25. He'll probably lose 5-10lbs LBM along the way, if he does things well. Speaking of doing things well: his measuring his waist at his ribs concerns me. Measuring your waist is simple. Couldn't be easier. Dieting right, training right, factoring in adequate rest and whatnot - that can get complicated. If he's struggling with step A, how's he going to perform the harder steps?
i mean, it seemed logical to me that you don't measure on your rib cage or on your pelvis, so i measured in between them. there's only like an inch between...
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post 1565129341 11-01-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
If I'm being honest, I doubt you'll ever see abs at your level of muscle mass unless you go full anorexia
I basically told op this a few weeks ago on page 3, he'd cut down and look skinny but would not end up having a six pack because lack of actual muscle, and 3 weeks later I can say that I'm 100% sure I was right about it. Op it's gonna take at least one or two years of lifting with a solid diet before you end up with a defined six pack
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post 1565129661 11-01-2018, 11:43 AM
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post 1565129881 11-01-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Gonna take a pic on Nov 1
update? pulling for u.
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post 1565131011 11-01-2018, 12:00 PM
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wow, all this time I thought you at least lifted. But you are a small skinny fat dude.





But I'm rooting for your abs. you can do it.
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post 1565131261 11-01-2018, 12:02 PM
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I think your face looks leaner or it might be the lighting
post 1565131301 11-01-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By RazorM3⏩
Location: Portland, Oregon, United States

doesn't even lift

seems about right soyo
You download grindr and β€œtroll” gay boys on there, you shouldn’t be making fun of anyone’s location or lack of lifts
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post 1565132111 11-01-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Droopdx⏩
You download grindr and β€œtroll” gay boys on there, you shouldn’t be making fun of anyone’s location or lack of lifts


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post 1565132231 11-01-2018, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Komisch⏩
update? pulling for u.
scroll up, boyo
Originally Posted By _chef_⏩
I think your face looks leaner or it might be the lighting
yeah, it is. i'm gonna start looking sickly by the end of november
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post 1565132301 11-01-2018, 12:13 PM
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wow so much negativity ITT

good luck boyo

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post 1565132691 11-01-2018, 12:17 PM
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Waist measurement has me fukked up:



i've been measuring at the red line

if i go above it, i'm measuring my rib cage. if i go below it, i'm measuring my pelvis. both of which seem like useless measurements.

i've lost 1.5 inches at the red line
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post 1565133231 11-01-2018, 12:23 PM
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Hard to believe theres only 2 weeks left
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You would have to fast for the remaining 2 months to have a chance at this. You can always eat the last week or two if you actually make your goal by then.
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Originally Posted By cireb⏩
You would have to fast for the remaining 2 months to have a chance at this. You can always eat the last week or two if you actually make your goal by then.
das not it
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
You're an old bro. Time to join up with me and Bobby. Peer pressure and all that
whoa what are we talkin about here

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post 1565135121 11-01-2018, 12:46 PM
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was hinted at earlier but if you have been lifting with any intensity whatsoever for more than 6 months and with the way you are holding fat it's time to go get blood work done dead srs
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post 1565135381 11-01-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
was hinted at earlier but if you have been lifting with any intensity whatsoever for more than 6 months and with the way you are holding fat it's time to go get blood work done dead srs
you think i'm on that LTC time? i just genetically hold fat there but i think i'm a complete non-responder as far as lifting goes for my whole life. i still wake up every morning with a diamond cutter and i can smash multiple times a day (even if it's the same gal hehe) so i don't think i'm low test. tbh, even if i were, i would never in a million years treat it.
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post 1565136121 11-01-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
you think i'm on that LTC time? i just genetically hold fat there but i think i'm a complete non-responder as far as lifting goes for my whole life. i still wake up every morning with a diamond cutter and i can smash multiple times a day (even if it's the same gal hehe) so i don't think i'm low test. tbh, even if i were, i would never in a million years treat it.
you might be perfectly fine and just have lifting genetics of piss, also possible you're on that high estro time and have some weird chit going on in that area

it's just hard for me to bee leaf anyone with healthy levels could store fat like that (don't take that personally)
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
you might be perfectly fine and just have lifting genetics of piss, also possible you're on that high estro time and have some weird chit going on in that area

it's just hard for me to bee leaf anyone with healthy levels could store fat like that (don't take that personally)
lol, i don't take anything personally. it's always been the case. my dad is like that and so was my grandpa. i have a small frame too so it looks worse

you guys will just have to trust me that i would look 10x worse if i actually didn't lift. maybe i can find a pic from 10 years ago at home
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
lol, i don't take anything personally. it's always been the case. my dad is like that and so was my grandpa. i have a small frame too so it looks worse

you guys will just have to trust me that i would look 10x worse if i actually didn't lift. maybe i can find a pic from 10 years ago at home
just something to keep in mind

regardless you're gonna fckin make it
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
you think i'm on that LTC time? i just genetically hold fat there but i think i'm a complete non-responder as far as lifting goes for my whole life. i still wake up every morning with a diamond cutter and i can smash multiple times a day (even if it's the same gal hehe) so i don't think i'm low test. tbh, even if i were, i would never in a million years treat it.
I didnt see your training details. I'm guessing you're doing less volume but are you keeping intensity up?

I feel that's the best way to train while cutting, based off what I've read and experienced. Don't do strictly high rep training while cutting if you want to preserve muscle mass.
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post 1565136441 11-01-2018, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
tbh, even if i were, i would never in a million years treat it.
Why?
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