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Thread: Millennials at it again, we're killing Harley Davidson.

post 1572341191 01-28-2019, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/actu...-davidson.html





Or maybe, just maybe we can't afford expensive ass motorcycles and have more important priorities like $35K student loans and saving up for an $150K house in cheaper areas? I want a R6, but now it's just not the time.
this. they're poor as dirt. it's almost as if inflation has taken the newer generation for 2%+ every year while wages have been totally stagnant!!!!!
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post 1572341381 01-28-2019, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted By mr.left
Harleys are for the 1 %er's there are None here...

case Closed
5%ers > 1%ers
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post 1572341651 01-28-2019, 06:53 PM
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[QUOTE=W1LLW post_id=1572310381]If Harley was smart, they'd extort the dollar shave club, beard oil, web developer demographic. You know, the millennials from wealthy families that went to private schools, make 80 to 130k in software engineering or web developing but try desperately hard to look like they live couch to couch?

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You release a heavily vintage-inspired design. Strip it of nearly every creature comfort possible, slap a Harley logo on it, make Ryan Gosling the brand ambassador and sell the $1,000 bike for $10,000 msrp. You know how many idiots would go around bragging about their "vintage style'd Harley"? Jesus... make me VP. It's so simple.[/QUOTE]Triumph already controls that market

modern triumphs

[img]https://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/2000_1x_/public/images/2017/10/triumph-bonneville-bobber-black-location-hero.jpg?itok=oWhumt94&fc=50,50[/img]

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post 1572348541 01-28-2019, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Antonio519⏩
Triumph already controls that market

modern triumphs





Ducati if you want power with the look.

But Japan doesn't need to sell the same bikes they sold in the 70s to make money. Hayabusa and Ninja sell themselves.
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post 1572349521 01-28-2019, 09:02 PM
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good. useless piece of **** brand needs to die out with the boomers.
post 1572349711 01-28-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By slapchop18⏩
blame South Park

which episode?
post 1572350141 01-28-2019, 09:15 PM
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post 1572351131 01-28-2019, 09:34 PM
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less men

less harley purchases

what's so hard to undrstand? Time to invest in scooters harley.
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post 1572358661 01-29-2019, 12:33 AM
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Someone post the new Rocket 3 from Triumph. Will rep.
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post 1572359951 01-29-2019, 01:24 AM
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first off, harleys are lame af, second, why would anybody in their right mind pay the msrp on even one of there mid range bikes, they get super pricey, and younger people now are broke as ever, with a recession looming in the next year or two. Adapt, overcome, and survive. if a business cant do those things they have no right being in business.
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post 1572360341 01-29-2019, 01:40 AM
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guess im the only one that thinks harleys are pretty cool...
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
post 1572360641 01-29-2019, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted By mr.left
Harleys are for the 1 %er's there are None here...

case Closed
1% checking in ,

No Harley
post 1572360691 01-29-2019, 01:54 AM
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I don't like Harley's but a lot of your guys are posting motorbike n00b phrases such as "why would you buy a Harley when an R1 is faster" etc.

People don't buy Harley's because they are fast, or because they have cutting edge technology.

They like the cruiser idea of having a lot of torque and cruising comfortably. They like that the engine is a pushrod driven antique.

All these things are not for me but I can understand why people like those things.

What I don't like is the snobby owners with their matching hd jackets, hats, watch, socks, pillowcase, etc
post 1572360801 01-29-2019, 01:58 AM
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I'm surprised at the hate in here. A lot of good points on why Harley is failing tho. It's amazing to see that everyone in the world can see why Harley is failing, except the Harley execs.
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post 1572360981 01-29-2019, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
Someone post the new Rocket 3 from Triumph. Will rep.


i do as me told m8s
If I could smoke fear away, I'd roll that motherfker up and take 2 puffs
post 1572361061 01-29-2019, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Ochosiete⏩
1% checking in ,

No Harley
came here to quote this but lol @ a 1%er miscer

don't know any clubs that claim 600s and patch in with top and bottom rockers and a 1 stamp

inb4 ruff ryders dawg
If I could smoke fear away, I'd roll that motherfker up and take 2 puffs
post 1572363121 01-29-2019, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Perhaps the 500 lbs of chrome plating on a 500 % marked up rattling pile of 1945 technology is what is killing Harley.
Originally Posted By severagee⏩
My image of the stereotypical Harley rider is an aging, overweight, slightly-alcoholic dude desperately trying to recapture some sense of youth while his morbidly obese wife sits right behind him. Like, I've seen so many couples like that on Harleys it's not even funny. Plus they're expensive and look weird, idk how people can think they're "cool."
This and this. No sympathy tbh
post 1572363541 01-29-2019, 03:53 AM
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anybody driving anything producing over 85 decibels needs to have their head sawed off with a rusty lawnmower blade of ass in smack ass city boy son boy, aircraft and boats of piss not included, in ass
post 1572363821 01-29-2019, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
guess im the only one that thinks harleys are pretty cool...
nope. been riding since 2014 and still ride the same Harley. I love it but to each their own.

the new livewire brand is gay as fuk though cuz. pretty indifferent to Harley failing overall though because I figured if I ever got another bike i'd probably go indian but who knows.
post 1572364771 01-29-2019, 04:48 AM
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Harley only sells one or two types/styles of bikes.

The market changes.

VW beetles and vans were big in the 60s. Imagine if they were the only product VW was selling today. You see how stupid that sounds, but that is what Harley is doing.

Even when VW made the comeback beetle, it was updated with modern manufacturing and the engine is in the front because it shares platforms with other cars. Harley will have to sell cheaper bikes or go out of business.

Toyota stopped making sports cars and when they came back to it, they collaborated with subaru/bmw, most likely due to cost reasons, not wanting to invest too much R&D dollars on a design from scratch on cars that will be low volume sellers. Purists hate it and its not a "real" supra IMO either but Toyota did it for business reasons and people will still buy it. Harley should probably be using Yamaha engines or something to reduce their costs. The purists will hate it but it might save the company.
post 1572364881 01-29-2019, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By bjjruinedmylife⏩
I don't like Harley's but a lot of your guys are posting motorbike n00b phrases such as "why would you buy a Harley when an R1 is faster" etc.

People don't buy Harley's because they are fast, or because they have cutting edge technology.

They like the cruiser idea of having a lot of torque and cruising comfortably. They like that the engine is a pushrod driven antique.

All these things are not for me but I can understand why people like those things.

What I don't like is the snobby owners with their matching hd jackets, hats, watch, socks, pillowcase, etc
I just don't see the allure of paying a premium for 1950s technology.

Could you see this in the car industry? Replica 1950s cars with 200hp and bias ply tires and roll up windows with no electronics or safety features selling for 100k just because they have some chrome polish and a decent paint job?

I understand people buy into the brand and I ride with a lot of weekend warrior club guys. But they don't really ride. It's more of a warm up the engine between bar stools kind of riding.
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post 1572365391 01-29-2019, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted By The_Trooper⏩


i do as me told m8s
the new one brah
Single sided swingarm.
I think it is the 2020 model, possibly. Sexy as fuk, Diavel looking thing.
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post 1572365671 01-29-2019, 05:20 AM
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tfw you can't adapt to the market



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I'm in shock millennials aren't spending 20-30k on an outdated motorcycle that sounds like someone gargling a bag of dicks
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Hired a Harley for a weekend when in Florida (Fatboy iirc). Am used to riding sports bikes.

Mind was actually blown by how much of a piece of **** it was.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed cruising about on it for a few days, the noise, the torque etc but it emitted so much heat and rattled and vibrated so much it was unbearable after a hour or two.
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Kinds dont want a harley, they either want a fast sportsbike or they're a bit more hipster and want a royal enfield or some sort of cafe racer.
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It's a bike for older men who have no real bills to worry about or just have the money to blow. It's a social statement bike. Half of them sit in garages more than half the year while the owner brags to their friends about it when they come over for a drink or cookout.

Triumph, Honda, Indian, and Moto Guzzi are bikes id rather have at this point. (I dont ride anymore though due to an accident and not having the peace of mind to get back on again)
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How is RICHSTRONG handling the news?
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
the new one brah
Single sided swingarm.
I think it is the 2020 model, possibly. Sexy as fuk, Diavel looking thing.
hhhhnnnngg

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Originally Posted By Jimbo0731⏩
Canary in a coal mine. Entire auto industry is gonna be plagued by this similar story. Now that millennials make up majority or will very soon expect a lot of spending on high priced items to tank. Most millennials can barely afford to live in their parents house let alone have their own transportation. Expect all the major auto makers to tighten their product line to only the best selling in the years to come to try and combat this. Only it'll be too late by then and auto makers will capitulate due to the low demands as the global economy continues the downward trend and most people not just millennials will be skipping on the new auto purchase.
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