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post 1587733451 09-12-2019, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
consider this folks:

Spoiler!
that wasn't Butcher's wife. it was the shape shifter dude, the kid was just some blonde kid and Homelander was just tricking him.

Spoiler!
But the kid has his eyes glowing in the end in the same color as Homelander.


I binged the show in like 2 days. I read some wiki about the comics and I feel like overall I like the divergence (but again, I haven't actually read the comics). Some SJW elements in the TV series but it's bearable/not overdone. I feel like the decreased focus on random rape/sex in the TV series vs the comic was a good thing cos it fleshes out the motives of the characters beyond "horny kunt with superpowers". Was annoyed at what happened at the end with A-train but eh it's within the scope of what Hughie's personality is like. I feel like they used the comics as a basis and then used that to develop a good, independent series in its own right.
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the Boys is awesome. I binged it in like 3-4 days. I told everyone I know to watch it and nobody did lol. My wife fell asleep in episode 1 and I legit felt like divorcing her. Loved the show. Can't wait for season 2. Homelander is a bad ass lol.
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how long do we have to keep using spoilers?
Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
Wouldn't make sense. Why would Homelander go through all that just to trick pretty much a nobody?
he's not a "nobody" he led the group that killed Translucent, broke A-Train's leg and has been a huge thorn in the side of the 7. not to mention he could expose all their lies to the world. this could be a tactic to keep him and his group quite or some other strange twist. idk
Originally Posted By DrBroscientist⏩
Spoiler!
But the kid has his eyes glowing in the end in the same color as Homelander.

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so? doesn't mean the kid is real or even the child of Butcher's wife. he could be raising one of those babies they made that were in the hospital like how Homelander was raised.
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I swear I posted in "the Boys" thread before....

Anyways, my thoughts on Starlight:

Spoiler!
She is a frackin' idiot character. "ohmagaawd, should I, or should I not suck fishface's c0ck?! Magawd, I dunno what I want to dooooooooo. I wanna be popular but don't wanna do this. Okay, I'll do it, then claim meToo."

Then it's like, ohmagawd, should I wear this super short revealing outfit?! I dunno what to do. Hello you idiot, you have super powers, why TF would you be forced to do ANYTHING?!

Stupid dumb broad, I hate her character. We could have done without her.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I swear I posted in "the Boys" thread before....

Anyways, my thoughts on Starlight:

Spoiler!
She is a frackin' idiot character. "ohmagaawd, should I, or should I not suck fishface's c0ck?! Magawd, I dunno what I want to dooooooooo. I wanna be popular but don't wanna do this. Okay, I'll do it, then claim meToo."

Then it's like, ohmagawd, should I wear this super short revealing outfit?! I dunno what to do. Hello you idiot, you have super powers, why TF would you be forced to do ANYTHING?!

Stupid dumb broad, I hate her character. We could have done without her.
She’s supposed to be a young, sheltered girl who’s dream was to be part of the 7.... the world’s most popular and most exclusive group of celebs.... Was she a bit dumb/naive? Sure, but she evolved by season’s end. You can’t tell me that you’ve never seen a girl that would do anything to be a celebrity.... all you have to do is look at IG and YT and you’ll find thousands of them lol.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
She’s supposed to be a young, sheltered girl who’s dream was to be part of the 7.... the world’s most popular and most exclusive group of celebs.... Was she a bit dumb/naive? Sure, but she evolved by season’s end. You can’t tell me that you’ve never seen a girl that would do anything to be a celebrity.... all you have to do is look at IG and YT and you’ll find thousands of them lol.
I'm sorry, I feel the same about the MeToo movement. If you're too "dumb and naive" to realize NOT to do sexual favors to get ahead in life - you don't get to cry about it when you "mature."

Throughout the whole show she whines and moans about some chit.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I swear I posted in "the Boys" thread before....

Anyways, my thoughts on Starlight:

Spoiler!
She is a frackin' idiot character. "ohmagaawd, should I, or should I not suck fishface's c0ck?! Magawd, I dunno what I want to dooooooooo. I wanna be popular but don't wanna do this. Okay, I'll do it, then claim meToo."

Then it's like, ohmagawd, should I wear this super short revealing outfit?! I dunno what to do. Hello you idiot, you have super powers, why TF would you be forced to do ANYTHING?!

Stupid dumb broad, I hate her character. We could have done without her.
did I miss the part where she considered doing that? because I thought she was instantly disgusted.
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post 1587744491 09-12-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
did I miss the part where she considered doing that? because I thought she was instantly disgusted.
She did both things anyways.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
She did both things anyways.
Spoiler!
she blew The Deep?


if that happened I totally missed it or forgot. what episode? I'm going to go back and watch it.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
Spoiler!
she blew The Deep?


if that happened I totally missed it or forgot. what episode? I'm going to go back and watch it.
Very first episode homie. Or was it the second one...
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I'm sorry, I feel the same about the MeToo movement. If you're too "dumb and naive" to realize NOT to do sexual favors to get ahead in life - you don't get to cry about it when you "mature."

Throughout the whole show she whines and moans about some chit.
Hey... no argument there.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I'm sorry, I feel the same about the MeToo movement. If you're too "dumb and naive" to realize NOT to do sexual favors to get ahead in life - you don't get to cry about it when you "mature."

Throughout the whole show she whines and moans about some chit.
Well a lot of people are saying that The Deep raped her but he actually gave her the choice and she decided to be a slut. I mean dude was an a$$hole but not a rapist IMO.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Very first episode homie. Or was it the second one...
I don't think I had gotten super interested at that point and could have been in the bathroom or making something to eat. lol
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Originally Posted By GlennQuagmire⏩
Well a lot of people are saying that The Deep raped her but he actually gave her the choice and she decided to be a slut. I mean dude was an a$$hole but not a rapist IMO.
I mean I know why the producers of the show threw that entire concept in the show. To acknowledge the popular MeToo movement. But the truth is the truth. No amount of popularity or money would make me compromise my core values. I know people say stuff like "oh you do dumb things when you're young." Sure, but that means chit like breaking the heads off your sister's dolls, not opening your legs for someone else's benefit, or allow someone to stick something in your rear end (MJ victims).

It speaks volumes when people are willing to risk their life for something superficial such as fame or money.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I swear I posted in "the Boys" thread before....

Anyways, my thoughts on Starlight:

Spoiler!
She is a frackin' idiot character. "ohmagaawd, should I, or should I not suck fishface's c0ck?! Magawd, I dunno what I want to dooooooooo. I wanna be popular but don't wanna do this. Okay, I'll do it, then claim meToo."

Then it's like, ohmagawd, should I wear this super short revealing outfit?! I dunno what to do. Hello you idiot, you have super powers, why TF would you be forced to do ANYTHING?!

Stupid dumb broad, I hate her character. We could have done without her.
I think you've forgotten that he was literally going to tell people that he attacked her. Remember? She got angry and destroyed the electronics in the room when he propositioned her, and when she was about to walk away he said "I'll tell people that you attacked me" then he pointed to what she did to the electronics and said "Who do you think they'll believe, me or you?".

So it wasn't simply a case that he said "Suck my dick to get ahead." He threatened to tell people that she assaulted him, and realistically she had every reason to believe that the public and the company would believe a nationally beloved superhero over her.

Regarding her dress provocatively...

Her character's theme seems to be centred around the idea of integrity and corporate culture. The question of what are we (and any of us) willing to compromise. We can see that the rest of the seven have compromised to the point that they've become morally corrupt, and we are seeing her at the beginning of her ethical journey.

Her dressing provocatively in and of itself wasn't the issue, the issue that presented was if she was willing to compromise her values and integrity for the corporation.
Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I'm sorry, I feel the same about the MeToo movement. If you're too "dumb and naive" to realize NOT to do sexual favors to get ahead in life - you don't get to cry about it when you "mature."

Throughout the whole show she whines and moans about some chit.
Despite miscers saying 'he did nothing wrong', Louis CK understood how the dynamics of power can affect our decision making. When he used to ask females who worked for/with him if he could masturbate, and then whipped his dick out, he realized that it wasn't simply a sexually invitation to them, it was a dilemma because they had to think if their entire career could be destroyed/harmed if he is a vindictive kind of person.

Being forced to do a sexual act by threat of violence is one thing, but there is also a real psychological and economic being applied by a boss/superior when they proposition a subordinate.

Away from the fictional, and IRL... I almost went to court as a witness for an 18 year old who was propositioned by her 45 year old married boss (he had an affair with another 18 year old who worked their before, who fell in love with him). She refused his advances, but I began to pick up that something was wrong. She went from being a happy go lucky girl, to constantly looking miserable and stressed. One day I, approached her to ask her what was wrong and she broke down crying, showed me text messages, and told me what was going on.

You and other miscers might call bullchit, but I put her in touch with a lawyer, and there was enough evidence (she literally had records of asking him how he got her number, and he said he got it from the employee files, and a record of him refusing her), and they didn't hesitate to pay an out of court settle. As far as I know, he no longer works for that company.

She refused his advances, and the consequence was that he was routinely a dick to her, and even cornered her the staff locker room and told her not to tell anyone. Being in a positon of power IMO carries with it responsibilities, and IMO one of the responsibilities is being away that social interactions with subordinates is always partially a threatening to them.

Not everyone has the psychological make up, or temperatment, to be unshakeably assertive when they feel intimidated by someone more (literally and figurately) more powerful than they are.

(I'm not going to go into details, but I figured out something was going on through observing from body language, etc. And knowing the history of the manager... He had been known for making advances on people in the past.)
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Originally Posted By GlennQuagmire⏩
Well a lot of people are saying that The Deep raped her but he actually gave her the choice and she decided to be a slut. I mean dude was an a$$hole but not a rapist IMO.
He was going to frame her. She blew up all the electronics in the room after deep wanted the blowie and he was going to say she attacked him.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I mean I know why the producers of the show threw that entire concept in the show. To acknowledge the popular MeToo movement. But the truth is the truth. No amount of popularity or money would make me compromise my core values..
Not everyone has your temperament, upbringing, or strength of character.

I really advise trying to see how it's more difficult for other people, than you, not to feel very psychologically intimidate when/if someone in a position of power propositions them.

For example, some of the women who were allegedly propostioned by Harvey Weinstein and refused, were actually blacklisted...

"Peter Jackson: I blacklisted Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino under pressure from Weinstein

Jackson said Miramax told him not to cast duo in Lord of the Rings series
Both actors refused Weinstein’s pressure to have physical relationships"

That shows that actresses were likely threatened to have their careers destroyed, if they didn't let him do what he wanted with them.

Those were (relatively) big name actresses, who likely had some savings and other opportunites to live off.

Now imagine all the broke/struggling actresses, who were working a chitty job to pursue their dream, who then get propositioned by Weinstein to pleasure him or their career gets destroyed in their infancy.

I'm not saying that they 'should' comply, but I am saying that it's not as easy as."They are just dumb broads, and that's why they sucked his dick."

(Also, I'm not saying that I believe that any and every case was due to the women being forced or intimidated. I've no doubt their are actresses more than willing to exchange sex for acting opportunities.)
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Originally Posted By Kadoobiedo⏩
He was going to frame her. She blew up all the electronics in the room after deep wanted the blowie and he was going to say she attacked him.
Exactly.

People seem to be forgetting that crucial scene.

Realistically, who would people believe?

A national hero who is on camera saving lives, year after year... Or an unknown - powerful - newbie?
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I mean I know why the producers of the show threw that entire concept in the show. To acknowledge the popular MeToo movement. But the truth is the truth. No amount of popularity or money would make me compromise my core values. I know people say stuff like "oh you do dumb things when you're young." Sure, but that means chit like breaking the heads off your sister's dolls, not opening your legs for someone else's benefit, or allow someone to stick something in your rear end (MJ victims).

It speaks volumes when people are willing to risk their life for something superficial such as fame or money.
Lulz. Have you seen the world today? Chicks going to ***** to get chit on so they can buy a COACH bag... people falling off mountains and dying because they tried to take an amazing selfie.... people dying while trying to perform extreme stunts so they get a few more YouTube followers....

Society these days is fukked. COMPLETELY obsessed with fame and celebrity.
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^ her goal in life was to "help people." She admitted that she didn't really need to be part of "the 7" to do that. So not only is that character dumb AF, but also a liar. She lies to herself more than anything. lol.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I think you've forgotten that he was literally going to tell people that he attacked her. Remember? She got angry and destroyed the electronics in the room when he propositioned her, and when she was about to walk away he said "I'll tell people that you attacked me" then he pointed to what she did to the electronics and said "Who do you think they'll believe, me or you?".

So it wasn't simply a case that he said "Suck my dick to get ahead." He threatened to tell people that she assaulted him, and realistically she had every reason to believe that the public and the company would believe a nationally beloved superhero over her.

Regarding her dress provocatively...

Her character's theme seems to be centred around the idea of integrity and corporate culture. The question of what are we (and any of us) willing to compromise. We can see that the rest of the seven have compromised to the point that they've become morally corrupt, and we are seeing her at the beginning of her ethical journey.

Her dressing provocatively in and of itself wasn't the issue, the issue that presented was if she was willing to compromise her values and integrity for the corporation.



Despite miscers saying 'he did nothing wrong', Louis CK understood how the dynamics of power can affect our decision making. When he used to ask females who worked for/with him if he could masturbate, and then whipped his dick out, he realized that it wasn't simply a sexually invitation to them, it was a dilemma because they had to think if their entire career could be destroyed/harmed if he is a vindictive kind of person.

Being forced to do a sexual act by threat of violence is one thing, but there is also a real psychological and economic being applied by a boss/superior when they proposition a subordinate.

Away from the fictional, and IRL... I almost went to court as a witness for an 18 year old who was propositioned by her 45 year old married boss (he had an affair with another 18 year old who worked their before, who fell in love with him). She refused his advances, but I began to pick up that something was wrong. She went from being a happy go lucky girl, to constantly looking miserable and stressed. One day I, approached her to ask her what was wrong and she broke down crying, showed me text messages, and told me what was going on.

You and other miscers might call bullchit, but I put her in touch with a lawyer, and there was enough evidence (she literally had records of asking him how he got her number, and he said he got it from the employee files, and a record of him refusing her), and they didn't hesitate to pay an out of court settle. As far as I know, he no longer works for that company.

She refused his advances, and the consequence was that he was routinely a dick to her, and even cornered her the staff locker room and told her not to tell anyone. Being in a positon of power IMO carries with it responsibilities, and IMO one of the responsibilities is being away that social interactions with subordinates is always partially a threatening to them.

Not everyone has the psychological make up, or temperatment, to be unshakeably assertive when they feel intimidated by someone more (literally and figurately) more powerful than they are.

(I'm not going to go into details, but I figured out something was going on through observing from body language, etc. And knowing the history of the manager... He had been known for making advances on people in the past.)
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Not everyone has your temperament, upbringing, or strength of character.

I really advise trying to see how it's more difficult for other people, than you, not to feel very psychologically intimidate when/if someone in a position of power propositions them.

For example, some of the women who were allegedly propostioned by Harvey Weinstein and refused, were actually blacklisted...

"Peter Jackson: I blacklisted Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino under pressure from Weinstein

Jackson said Miramax told him not to cast duo in Lord of the Rings series
Both actors refused Weinstein’s pressure to have physical relationships"

That shows that actresses were likely threatened to have their careers destroyed, if they didn't let him do what he wanted with them.

Those were (relatively) big name actresses, who likely had some savings and other opportunites to live off.

Now imagine all the broke/struggling actresses, who were working a chitty job to pursue their dream, who then get propositioned by Weinstein to pleasure him or their career gets destroyed in their infancy.

I'm not saying that they 'should' comply, but I am saying that it's not as easy as."They are just dumb broads, and that's why they sucked his dick."

(Also, I'm not saying that I believe that any and every case was due to the women being forced or intimidated. I've no doubt their are actresses more than willing to exchange sex for acting opportunities.)
Holy hell you write so damn much. Do you even know what "concise" means?

You mean he threatened to say SHE attacked HIM. And again, I say, who gives a frack?

If you, as an adult, can be forced or coerced into doing anything that goes against yourone or twocore values - then your parents failed to teach you the most basic life lessons. I know you and I will disagree on this, but I'm going to say it anyways. Some of us are born into religion. However, it's our responsibility toresearch and adopt by choicethe religious belief at some point in our lives. Blindly going through life isn't smart. Likewise, blindly following the masses like sheep isn't smart and almost always leads to suffering. What that character was doing was being a sheeple. And her having super powers is a nail in her dumbness coffin.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
^ her goal in life was to "help people." She admitted that she didn't really need to be part of "the 7" to do that. So not only is that character dumb AF, but also a liar. She lies to herself more than anything. lol.





Holy hell you write so damn much. Do you even know what "concise" means?

You mean he threatened to say SHE attacked HIM. And again, I say, who gives a frack?

If you, as an adult, can be forced or coerced into doing anything that goes against yourone or twocore values - then your parents failed to teach you the most basic life lessons. I know you and I will disagree on this, but I'm going to say it anyways. Some of us are born into religion. However, it's our responsibility toresearch and adopt by choicethe religious belief at some point in our lives. Blindly going through life isn't smart. Likewise, blindly following the masses like sheep isn't smart and almost always leads to suffering. What that character was doing was being a sheeple. And her having super powers is a nail in her dumbness coffin.
First post in 5 years and its to tell you you're delusional. Values are arbitrary, there's no objective right set of values, everybody's raised differently.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
You mean he threatened to say SHE attacked HIM. And again, I say, who gives a frack?
Prison, being sued and being blacklisted, by an extremely powerful national corporation are the possible consequences.

Can you imagine genuinely facing the threat of going to prison, being sued, and/or blacklisted?
If you, as an adult, can be forced or coerced into doing anything that goes against yourone or twocore values - then your parents failed to teach you the most basic life lessons.
That doesn't provide anything useful, in regards to helping anyone who may find themselves in that situation.

I'll be honest, this reminds me of when people on the internet watch vids of people getting sucker punched and beaten up, and say things like "I would just do XXX", "That guy has no technique", "He could have easily defended himself by doing this technique". It's very easy to sit back in the comfort of ones home theorizing about how they would act in a given context or scenario, but it is a very, very different when you are actually in front of someone and genuinely facing the threat of violence.

Theory and reality are 2 different things.
I know you and I will disagree on this, but I'm going to say it anyways. Some of us are born into religion. However, it's our responsibility toresearch and adopt by choice the religious belief at some point in our lives.
I genuinely don't see how that is relevant.
What that character was doing was being a sheeple.
I think you are massively oversimplifying the context within which the character made the decision.

People make compromises regarding their values all the time(which is what the arc of her character seems to be about), and I'm sure even you do... Right?
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Originally Posted By THUNDERGOOSE⏩
First post in 5 years and its to tell you you're delusional. Values are arbitrary, there's no objective right set of values, everybody's raised differently.
I'm flattered. Thanks for your input.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Prison, being sued and being blacklisted, by an extremely powerful national corporation are the possible consequences.
Civil rights leaders and followers were beaten, jailed, and killed for standing up for what they believed in. So I assume you're saying they shouldn't have done any of that for fear of what ultimately DID happen to them? Uh huh, yea okay. Some people actually fight for what's right.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I'll be honest, this reminds me of when people on the internet watch vids of people getting sucker punched and beaten up, and say things like "I would just do XXX", "That guy has no technique", "He could have easily defended himself by doing this technique". It's very easy to sit back in the comfort of ones home theorizing about how they would act in a given context or scenario, but it is a very, very different when you are actually in front of someone and genuinely facing the threat of violence.
Your comparative scenario isn't a comparison at all. One is done as a surprise (sucker punched), the other allows you the chance to make a choice. If someone handed me a big red button and said if you push this, you're a million dollars richer but someone, somewhere will die - there's no way in hell I would push the button. I'd not even think about it. It's not a wishy washy moral stance that can be changed willy nilly. But you'd know nothing about that eh.
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People make compromises regarding their values all the time(which is what the arc of her character seems to be about), and I'm sure even you do... Right?
Values - sure.One or two core values- nope.

My point with all this is simple - there has to be something psychologically wrong with you as a person if you're willing to be physically and/or mentally violated for the mere chance at temporary glorification by the masses. Just lol.

Edit: just for clarification purposes, I don't really give a damn what your core values are. What defines you as a person is whether or not you have the credibility to stick to them. The character Starlight, not only caves on ONE of her core values (sexing someone for fame), but she did it again with her outfit and on "saving people." In fact, she's the least credible character on the show. Even Karl Urban's character is more credible than she is and he's all over the place. Even Homelander doesn't deny who he is and why.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Civil rights leaders and followers were beaten, jailed, and killed for standing up for what they believed in. So I assume you're saying they shouldn't have done any of that for fear of what ultimately DID happen to them?
I think I've spotted the problem...

Empathy is not an ethical prescription.

Attempting to understand what motivates someone to make a decision, is not the same thing as supporting that decision.

I'm empathizing with the character (and women who have been in genuine #metoo situation), that doesn't mean that I'm saying that their decision was 'right'. I am attempting to understand why they made the decision.

The decision you or I may make in a given situation, is not the same decision that everyone else will make, because we aren't carbon copies of one another. And there are many variables (internal and external) that affect our decision making process (no offence, but that is psychology 101.)

Do you understand that empathizing is not agreeing with, supporting, or condoning?
Uh huh, yea okay. Just because you switched your beliefs at the drop of a hat doesn't mean everyone else would do the same.
I've said this before multiple times to you...

You have a bad habit of thinking you can read people's minds, and knowing exactly what someone has done without them telling you or you witnessing it.

You and I haven't even been in the same room Muzziechik... Please consider that.
Some people actually fight for what's right.
Have you personally ever faced the threat of going to prison, being blacklisted, or being sued?

Anything situation remotely similar to the threat that the character was facing?
Your comparative scenario isn't a comparison at all. One is done as a surprise (sucker punched), the other allows you the chance to make a choice.
That wasn't the comparison.

The actually comparison I was making was between you, and people who watch videos of people involved in violent situations and theorize. The point is that it's very easy to say what you would do, feeling safe and relaxed in the comfort of your own home. It's very, very different thing to actually be in that scenario.

There is a difference between theory and reality.

I think (again,I think... maybe you've been in a similar situation), that you are simply theorizing about what

Unless you've been anywhere near anything like
If someone handed me a big red button and said if you push this, you're a million dollars richer but someone, somewhere will die - there's no way in hell I would push the button. I'd not even think about it. It's not a wishy washy moral stance that can be changed willy nilly. But you'd know nothing about that eh.
That is very abstract idea far removed from reality.

Women being threatened and propositioned is not. That's the point.

Again though, maybe you've faced a similar scenario. But... Again...This isn't about you.

Not everyone has your psychology, or upbringing.

You seem to have a really hard time empathizing with people (putting yourself in other people's shoes, trying to understand their motivations, temperament, etc).
Values - sure.One or two core values- nope.

My point with all this is simple - there has to be something psychologically wrong with you as a person if you're willing to be physically and/or mentally violated for the mere chance at temporary glorification by the masses. Just lol.
Why would you laugh at someone who - in your own words - is psychology damaged, that they allow themselves to be violated for money/fame, etc? That's tragic. They are spiritually and emotionally sick.

However, that isn't the scenario we are talking about.

We are talking about a character that was threatened with prison, being sued and/or blacklisted.

We are also talking about real women (like the Newspaper article I posted) who actually were blacklisted,after refusingto doing anything sexual with Weinstein.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Attempting to understand what motivates someone to make a decision, is not the same thing as supporting that decision.
No, I understand the motivation behind why that character made that decision. What I'm arguing, and you're not understanding, is that there's a conflict there about what shesays she believesand what she actually believes. At the start of the show, they show her as a very down to earth girl who knew exactly what she wanted in life. Become one of the 7's. Regardless of whether it was voiced or not, she wanted that status. What I have a problem with is once she attains what she has wanted, at the cost of her own moral values, she behaves victimized even though the choice was completely hers.

To me, that's sending the wrong message to young girls tbh. Men and women should be taught to identify what their core values are and be credible enough to stick to those core values. And if they stray from them, accept full responsibility for the consequences of those decisions.

I understand they're portraying what really happens in the world. Concepts like moral values, credibility, accountability and personal responsibility are lost upon this world. It's sad that we reiterate the deluded message through movies, music and media that's in our face all the time.
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We are also talking about real women (like the Newspaper article I posted) who actually were blacklisted,after refusingto doing anything sexual with Weinstein.
At least they haven't spent a lifetime hating themselves for what potentially could have happened. Good for them, they should be commended. Which we both know, has caused many celebrities to commit suicide.
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I mean I know why the producers of the show threw that entire concept in the show. To acknowledge the popular MeToo movement. But the truth is the truth. No amount of popularity or money would make me compromise my core values. .




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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
No, I understand the motivation behind why that character made that decision. What I'm arguing, and you're not understanding, is that there's a conflict there about what shesays she believesand what she actually believes.
No, I do I understand that.

I even said that was what her character was about in the first reply to you.
At the start of the show, they show her as a very down to earth girl who knew exactly what she wanted in life. Become one of the sevenss. Regardless of whether it was voiced or not, she wanted that status. What I have a problem with is once she attains what she has wanted, at the cost of her own moral values, she behaves victimized even though the choice was completely hers.
Choice under duress - i.e. being framed for a crime she didn't commit. However, that only one choice that she made.

I would also argue that she didn't behave like a victim, that she behaved like someone who was struggling to maintain integrity in a deeply corrupt institution. By the end of the series she has resolved some issues.

What The Deep did was ethically wrong, she chose - I personally look at that choice with compassion rather than condemnation, due to the context - to avoid possible prison, being sued, or blacklisted by giving him a blowjob. Her calling him out on blackmailing him wasn't playing the victim IMO, because what he did was wrong, and deserved to be called out. She didn't do anything ethically wrong IMO by giving him the blowjob... Because it was not a 'quid pro quo' scenario, she was faced with the prospect of prison for attacking a national hero, or give him a blowjob.

She had a character arc. She grew.

IMO at the beginning of the series she had integrity because she was naive, she believed that things were black and white, that there was simple line between good guys and bad guys. But we saw her question herself, her values, her choices, her religious beliefs - and the black and white Evangelism that she previously believed -, and it even took Queen Maeve - who herself was deeply unhappy, and had lived without integrity - to remind her to live with integrity.

By the end of the series, she was no longer naive, she no longer saw things in black and white, nor did she see a clear and simple line between the good guys and the bad guys, but she had learned to find integrity... Her last scene was her even trying to save the life of A Train even though she knows it may mean she is going to prison for attempted murder, or may be killed by Homelander for betrayal, and even though her Boyfriend begs her to leave him.
To me, that's sending the wrong message to young girls tbh.
That is exactly what was explored in the show. i.e. the scene with the young girl at the signing.

I think her character arc is a good message for young girls - though the show is made for eighteen plus year old. Her integrity by the end of the series is no longer based on an illusion - about herself and society - she's seen the worst of herself, and she's seen the worst of society.

I see her arc. as a redemption arc. She has integrity, loses her integrity, and then regains it... And it's even stronger than before - i.e. willing to risk prison and death, by trying to save A-Train's life.

I think that's more relatable - and a therefore better guide for girls - than someone who never spiritually falls. Because it's a story of redemption, not someone who is morally perfect from start to finish.

It seems - again, I'm guessing - like you wanted the TV show to depict only people with perfect integrity - i.e. 1950s movies, that's not me mocking, that's what movies in that era were like- , rather than people who struggle to maintain integrity and redeem themselves - i.e. Starlight?

I don't find simplistic depictions of morality and psychology personally appealing artistically - like to explore moral ambiguity -, but I do know that there are people who won't watch modern TV and film because the characters can often have deep flaws, and there is a purposeful portrayal of moral ambiguity. I personally love exploring that in art.

If you haven't seen Silence directed by Martin Scorsese (or the book Silence By Shusako Endo) I highly recommend it... You'll see the major spiritual dilemma at the end. The whole question of religious integrity is explored, on a level that I've never seen before.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
No, I understand the motivation behind why that character made that decision. What I'm arguing, and you're not understanding, is thatthere's a conflict there about what she says she believes and what she actually believes. At the start of the show, they show her as a very down to earth girl who knew exactly what she wanted in life. Become one of the 7's. Regardless of whether it was voiced or not, she wanted that status. What I have a problem with is once she attains what she has wanted, at the cost of her own moral values, she behaves victimized even though the choice was completely hers.

To me, that's sending the wrong message to young girls tbh. Men and women should be taught to identify what their core values are and be credible enough to stick to those core values. And if they stray from them, accept full responsibility for the consequences of those decisions.

I understand they're portraying what really happens in the world. Concepts like moral values, credibility, accountability and personal responsibility are lost upon this world. It's sad that we reiterate the deluded message through movies, music and media that's in our face all the time.



At least they haven't spent a lifetime hating themselves for what potentially could have happened. Good for them, they should be commended. Which we both know, has caused many celebrities to commit suicide.
If she knew what the 7 were REALLY all about and still wanted to be a part of it then I'd agree with you.... but she, like everyone else, bought into the carefully curated ideal that the 7's management team put out there (that they're good, noble heroes who really want to help people). When she found out what the 7 were really like she was disappointed... and felt duped.

Also... Starlight is supposed to be what.... 16? 18 maybe? Asking her to be as morally strong as someone like Malcolm X or Dr. King or Gandhi is pretty crazy.
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