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Easy because pharma came out with drugs to treat it.

I've noticed new drugs come out conspicuously at the same time the problem they treat is defined.

One of the most obvious I saw was some drug treating something like "shift change disorder".

TF? 'Shift change disorder'?

So basically people who work say swing shifts, if they can't get on a good sleep schedule it's cause "shift change disorder".

Can't be anything but them suddenly coming down with some disorder that didn't exist a few years ago.

But the good news is there's a drug to treat it, and while it may cause sides they have other drugs to treat those.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
this dude comes into threads speaking in truths and how he has it all figured out, yet cant grasp some psych 101.

Lol oh misc
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I suffer from actual diagnosed anxiety and have been to therapy for it (and am on meds for it). It's genetic for me (both sides of the family has generalized anxiety disorder diagnosed, including my mom and grandma).

I think it's on the rise due to social media and people being glued to their phone, but a lot is due to people self-diagnosing it (being nervous isn't an anxiety disorder) and people just attention whoring it out.

It's also become more normalized so people who suffer are more free to advertise they have it, versus just hiding it before.
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Anxiety is a symptom born out of a decline in social activity. Our brains haven't changed that much since the caveman days, and back then if you weren't socializing with a tribe daily you were an outcast fearing for your safety.

Society has changed, but our primitive brains haven't changed at the same pace. That's why someone who never leaves their room will have the same fear response when going to a social gather as a caveman who was outcast from a tribe fending for their safety.

The more you socialize (face to face) the less anxiety you will feel daily, and vice versa.

The reason anxiety is boomed now is because people started replacing most of their face to face social interactions with computer screens and phone screens.

Don't overcomplicate it.
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There are things that can excite people and make their heart race. They'll call it anxiety, truthfully it is but not quite the type you're referring to.
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it gets used often but there are people (including myself) who have experienced true panic attacks without any substance in the body (legal or illegal) to have created it
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Originally Posted By redraider86
Yikes. There are nowtwothree women talking about their anxiety in your thread, I hope you find a way to manage your emotions about how other people deal with their struggles.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to redraider86 again.

My SO has anxiety, panic disorder, and either OCD or something similar to it, it's regarding thoughts.

We aren't rich, we aren't even middle class. I would classify us as slightly above dirt fukkin poor. The poor who don't have the safety net and turn to booze and drugs, that's how they mask the chittiness. Many eventually spiral into addiction and then homelessness. I saw it with my mother, and I see it in many of the poor around me.
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Originally Posted By DJKhaled
You need to reprocess those memories though. I know you don't want to touch them but its the only way to cure you from them since they are manifesting in present-day panic attacks.

With EMDR, you follow a light or dot going across a bar with your eyes and the therapist walks you through the memories or you silently go through them in your head and your brain reprocesses them. It sounds weird yet simple but it works and is very effective for trauma and anxiety.

Its one of the best things I decided to do and cured me of the debilitating panic attacks. I would always fear when they would happen since it was so random.
Hmm I see. So it's like going through the memories as though I'm an outsider? I see how that can be effective. I'll mention it to my doc.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
Easy because pharma came out with drugs to treat it.

I've noticed new drugs come out conspicuously at the same time the problem they treat is defined.

One of the most obvious I saw was some drug treating something like "shift change disorder".

TF? 'Shift change disorder'?

So basically people who work say swing shifts, if they can't get on a good sleep schedule it's cause "shift change disorder".

Can't be anything but them suddenly coming down with some disorder that didn't exist a few years ago.

But the good news is there's a drug to treat it, and while it may cause sides they have other drugs to treat those.
I see what you're saying. Self awareness may be causing the increase in people suffering from such illnesses but perhaps this is a good thing. Someone who is not self aware may do self destructive acts as a result of not knowing what the problem is.

If we consider that the life span was shorter way back in the day. Perhaps self awareness is the side effect of having a longer life. People are more health conscious and so live longer.

We have switched from relying on instincts to relying on more on logic to survive. As a result everything is analysed and more problems are addressed.




Or it could be that people are sicker because we eat crap food. Junk food, food loaded with preservatives, gmos and fast food may be what is making us sicker. Eating completely organic is now a dream. Getting non modified fruits and vegetables is impossible. Medicines help us deal with our poor diets so we still live normally.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
this dude comes into threads speaking in truths and how he has it all figured out, yet cant grasp some psych 101.

Lol oh misc
This.^


Also, ironically, psych has already outlined a way to quantify OP (like all the others than came before him:

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Instead of standing out in a crowd due to some special skill one has its become the โ€œin thingโ€ to have some sort of affliction. Go to rehab, allergies, special dietary needs, support creature,
Something......anything, to get attention for and be noticed.

For many. Some actually have valid issues
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Originally Posted By JaymzJ
Anxiety is a fancy word for stress really, itโ€™s true, we all have it, itโ€™s always been around and yes itโ€™s increasing in this world but are you going to use it as an excuse? Throw your hands up and say... I have anxiety issues, or are you going to take action to alleviate your stress in a rational manner?
What in the world....No it isn't, but I wish it was. I've never met a person in real life who used it as an excuse. If anything, they "admitted" to suffering from anxiety then listed out the steps they were taking to manage it, as if they owed it to the other person (sometimes me) to qualify their decision making process. You're used to feeling like everyone around you minimizes your symptoms so you qualify everything to appear like you've got it together.

It's a shame that mental health is not treated as seriously as physical health. You'd hopefully never accuse someone diagnosed with cancer that they're throwing their hands up and not addressing their illness in a rational manner....you'd likely STFU and listen to what they were dealing with.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon
Everyone ITT who is genuinely interested in an answer should read the book "The Paradox of Choice". It's an easy 6/5 book, and will change the way you see the world.

Cliffs of cliffs of a few insights from the book (seriously, read the fukken book).

*The more choices we have, the more opportunity cost (ie. the amount of stuff we are rejecting by choosing something) goes up. Having 80 different kinds of breakfast cereal on the shelf is wonderful, but to say yes to one is to say no to 79. If you've ever felt any sort of cognitive struggle in a grocery aisle over a decision that's ultimately utterly trivial, you get it.

*^Following from the above, the more choice we have in every area of our life. You could move to California or New York tomorrow if you really had to. All these farmers a few generations ago who were born, worked, and died on the family farm had nowhere near the quality of your life, but none of them were sitting around whining "what is my purpoooooose?"


*The wider and more connected our world gets, the more we feel inadequate or like we aren't doing enough. Simple example: 100 years ago if you were a hot-chit HS quarterback you were God in your 5 town area. Now thanks to the internet you're being compared to EVERY HS qb in the nation. If you've ever seen a YouTube vid of some 14 year old kid who's better at something you love than you will ever be, you get it.


On balance the modern world is the BEST, bar none, time to be alive there has ever been, but that does not mean it doesn't come with it's own set of problems. Compared to working in a coal mine or storming the beaches of Normandy or having dental work done without Novacaine, I'll take it, but most of our challenges now are paradoxically the result of our affluence.
This makes a lot of sense.

I can see the OP's point and I also can sympathize with those who have true anxiety disorders. I have social anxiety but not to the point of needing medication. Sometimes I force myself to do what scares me and others I just avoid it. Probably not a totally healthy way to go about it, as some people say just get over it. I wish it were so simple.

Speaking kind of as to what Atomic and Katya said, after I had my son I would watch Nancy Grace. Totally worst thing a mom could do as most of what she featured were child abductions and murders. Once I stopped watching it I stopped being so paranoid. I honestly don't even watch the news because it stresses me out hearing about so many bad things happening in the world and how helpless it makes me feel. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

I also stay away from social media for the most part. Only SM I have is FB and I only scroll through once a week or so. I def stay off it on holidays. I think SM has a huge part in how people are feeling anxious nowadays. You see a 2 second snapshot of someones life that they want you to see to think it's all happy kitty rainbow land and that can make you feel like crap. It's a shame that more people don't realize this and get off it.

Kind of all over the place post, but that's just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to redraider86 again.

My SO has anxiety, panic disorder, and either OCD or something similar to it, it's regarding thoughts.

We aren't rich, we aren't even middle class. I would classify us as slightly above dirt fukkin poor. The poor who don't have the safety net and turn to booze and drugs, that's how they mask the chittiness. Many eventually spiral into addiction and then homelessness. I saw it with my mother, and I see it in many of the poor around me.
Ugh, I know what that's like, and I'm sorry. I self medicated for years until finally landing a job where I could take care of myself and quite frankly, learn how to people. I hope she's finding relief, somehow.

I get where OP was trying to go with this thread - I have a similar annoyances with people who make ridiculous claims like, "I'm so OCD, I can't stand it if my towels aren't folded perfectly!" That's not even close to OCD, but I'm also not in the business of mental illness gatekeeping. I verbalized what I was struggling with slowly, and at times could hardly do so at all. So if people cope by inaccurately describing their triggers and struggles on social media....I'm just not bothered by it, and I don't really understand how melting down over people talking about where they struggle helps anyone.
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Originally Posted By Legz422
This makes a lot of sense.

I can see the OP's point and I also can sympathize with those who have true anxiety disorders. I have social anxiety but not to the point of needing medication. Sometimes I force myself to do what scares me and others I just avoid it. Probably not a totally healthy way to go about it, as some people say just get over it. I wish it were so simple.

Speaking kind of as to what Atomic and Katya said, after I had my son I would watch Nancy Grace. Totally worst thing a mom could do as most of what she featured were child abductions and murders. Once I stopped watching it I stopped being so paranoid. I honestly don't even watch the news because it stresses me out hearing about so many bad things happening in the world and how helpless it makes me feel. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

I also stay away from social media for the most part. Only SM I have is FB and I only scroll through once a week or so. I def stay off it on holidays. I think SM has a huge part in how people are feeling anxious nowadays. You see a 2 second snapshot of someones life that they want you to see to think it's all happy kitty rainbow land and that can make you feel like crap. It's a shame that more people don't realize this and get off it.

Kind of all over the place post, but that's just my 2 cents.
Watching the news is the worst thing you can do. The media/news is so negative. I used to be heavily involved in politics and it would stress me out and cause intense anxiety because it felt like I wasn't in control.

I completely stopped getting involved in politics and watching the news and feel so much better.

Same with social media. No ******** or Twitter.
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Originally Posted By DJKhaled
Watching the news is the worst thing you can do. The media/news is so negative. I used to be heavily involved in politics and it would stress me out and cause intense anxiety because it felt like I wasn't in control.

I completely stopped getting involved in politics and watching the news and feel so much better.

Same with social media. No ******** or Twitter.
I agree with you, but I'm sure there's people that think avoiding it is a bad thing or being weak. I'll still avoid it, no f's given.
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Originally Posted By Bcl2
What in the world....No it isn't, but I wish it was. I've never met a person in real life who used it as an excuse. If anything, they "admitted" to suffering from anxiety then listed out the steps they were taking to manage it, as if they owed it to the other person (sometimes me) to qualify their decision making process. You're used to feeling like everyone around you minimizes your symptoms so you qualify everything to appear like you've got it together.

It's a shame that mental health is not treated as seriously as physical health. You'd hopefully never accuse someone diagnosed with cancer that they're throwing their hands up and not addressing their illness in a rational manner....you'd likely STFU and listen to what they were dealing with.
Actually he might have a point. Stress might be a big factor concerning anxiety.
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Meh sometimes i get nervous but thats just a normal human reaction

but I used to have true panic attacks before where i was so frightened i legitimately thought i was going to die of a heart attack (which is why i dont drink caffeine anymore)
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
When you go to a job interview, you get nervous. You don't need anxiety pills for that. Why do you think everyone is on pills nowadays?
Freud said, "psychiatry is not for ordinary human misery." But if you pathologise the normal range of human emotions, you get to sell pills and self-help books.
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Originally Posted By jay283
Actually he might have a point. Stress might be a big factor concerning anxiety.
But that's not what he said. He didn't say it was a factor, he said anxiety = fancy word for stress.
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Originally Posted By DJKhaled
Watching the news is the worst thing you can do. The media/news is so negative. I used to be heavily involved in politics and it would stress me out and cause intense anxiety because it felt like I wasn't in control.

I completely stopped getting involved in politics and watching the news and feel so much better.

Same with social media. No ******** or Twitter.
It's not just that news skews negative, it skews sensationalist. The news isn't just the worst thing that the average person experiences jn a day, because even that isn't newsworthy. It's the absolute far end of the bell curve and whether the story is good or bad makes you think the world is a far more chaotic place that it really is.

"Today literally every plane on Earth took off and landed without issue" is remarkable but it's not newsworthy. But a single plane crashing is headlines half a world away, the few times in your life it will happen.
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People in this thread really need to understand that being nervous before a presentation DOES NOT equal anxiety. Anxiety, as a mental disorder is a CONTINUOUS + CONSTANT lack of control over your feelings and thoughts, it also does not need triggers like ''social gatherings'' while you are in that episode. My anxiety was triggered by nothing, I had the feeling of someone chasing me out of nowhere, and the feeling that something very dangerous and bad is going to happen. I'm far from being a soy person, I was standing and look around, to see who's coming, ready to face it. Nobody came, nothing happened, but my life was disruptive, I was tired and the lack of sleep was annoying. I was never mad at being afraid, at the feeling itself, I was mad because in the same moment while I was super scared, I knew rationally that there is nothing bad happening, that I am capable and safe. The annoying part is being unable to control your thoughts and feelings, even if you rationalize it.

Also, western culture sukz big time for trivializing mental illness, I don't understand since when it became trendy. Also, nobody from my circle knows about it, apart from 2-3 close friends, at first I was kind of ashamed of it.

Now I'm over that episode and I don't have social anxiety, my anxiety was triggered by my own thinking process, so you can come at me kuntz.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon
Everyone ITT who is genuinely interested in an answer should read the book "The Paradox of Choice". It's an easy 6/5 book, and will change the way you see the world.

Cliffs of cliffs of a few insights from the book (seriously, read the fukken book).

*The more choices we have, the more opportunity cost (ie. the amount of stuff we are rejecting by choosing something) goes up. Having 80 different kinds of breakfast cereal on the shelf is wonderful, but to say yes to one is to say no to 79. If you've ever felt any sort of cognitive struggle in a grocery aisle over a decision that's ultimately utterly trivial, you get it.

*^Following from the above, the more choice we have in every area of our life. You could move to California or New York tomorrow if you really had to. All these farmers a few generations ago who were born, worked, and died on the family farm had nowhere near the quality of your life, but none of them were sitting around whining "what is my purpoooooose?"


*The wider and more connected our world gets, the more we feel inadequate or like we aren't doing enough. Simple example: 100 years ago if you were a hot-chit HS quarterback you were God in your 5 town area. Now thanks to the internet you're being compared to EVERY HS qb in the nation. If you've ever seen a YouTube vid of some 14 year old kid who's better at something you love than you will ever be, you get it.


On balance the modern world is the BEST, bar none, time to be alive there has ever been, but that does not mean it doesn't come with it's own set of problems. Compared to working in a coal mine or storming the beaches of Normandy or having dental work done without Novacaine, I'll take it, but most of our challenges now are paradoxically the result of our affluence.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Because that's what most people mean when they say they have "anxiety," similar to how the vast majority of people who claim to have gluten intolerance don't actually have celiac disease. We're not talking about people with actual medical conditions.
I've actually gotten "health shammed" for taking medication for it by a family member.

She told me I don't need medication and I'm just trying to get high. I told her fat arse she doesn't need furosemide to lose weight she's just fat.

A lot of hate for those with actual problems.
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1. Partially due to it not actually being an anxiety disorder, but snowflakes classifying it as such.
2. Partially due to having chaotic childhoods via bad divorces, single parents, or nanny culture (lack of parental bond).
3. Partially due to being spoiled and entitled, and being incapable of processing any adversity (see point 1).
4. Partially due to technological revolution and social media.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
Survival instincts are some of the strongest most ingrained behavioral traits in nature.

Modern society has removed the fight for survival.

With out real stress to compare it to the brain becomes hypersensitive to lesser stimuli.
We're finding out modern psychological stress is far worse on the brain than what some hunter/gatherer of the past had to worry about.
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post 1590100341 10-20-2019, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah
We're finding out modern psychological stress is far worse on the brain than what some hunter/gatherer of the past had to worry about.
I agree doing physically adrenaline pumping things is no issue for me. E.g. sitting near the edge of a cliff, standing on the rooftop of a 6 floor building, hiking anywhere really, riding the Ferris wheel, idly watching tarantulas walking by etc. These things do not cause fear whatsoever.

But for some reasons I still get anxiety attacks doing everyday things like grocery shopping, strolling through the town, waiting in line or sometimes randomly while at home.

Somehow I have to rewire myself to get desensitized to normal everyday stuff. Anxiety is really a strange thing.
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