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Discuss: Is it the soy that has made us all so fat?
11-02-2020, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
Have you considered something less extreme? Pescaterian maybe? Or fish/egg/veggies/some fruit?Former Carnivore gone full Vegetarian/Low Sodium due to GI/Acid Reflux issues for the time being.
I've never felt better or been better shape. Still having GI problems but almost 80% less than when I was eating meat. It was a hard switch but most of my protein is soy/plant protein. Tofu, beans, plant based protein shakes. 1 liter of water a day minimum with electrolyte powder thrown in.
Rice/bread is a killer. I noticed I gained fat on, I use Quinoa instead. Braggs Aminos Acid Soy sauce with tofu and no-salt-spices with quinoa is my every day dinner. Apples and fruits for snacks or munchie foods. Organic Raw fruits/Vegetables.
Sodium is also a big issue and can store a lot of water weight.
Also life insurance underwriter checking CICO is great when you're younger but I noticed that a lot of my clients who do that naturally (ex: two burgers/Chicken fried steak or just small portioned cabs all day and a snack here and there 5'10 160-170lb male 50s) are diabetic or pre-diabetic.
I've never felt better or been better shape. Still having GI problems but almost 80% less than when I was eating meat. It was a hard switch but most of my protein is soy/plant protein. Tofu, beans, plant based protein shakes. 1 liter of water a day minimum with electrolyte powder thrown in.
Rice/bread is a killer. I noticed I gained fat on, I use Quinoa instead. Braggs Aminos Acid Soy sauce with tofu and no-salt-spices with quinoa is my every day dinner. Apples and fruits for snacks or munchie foods. Organic Raw fruits/Vegetables.
Sodium is also a big issue and can store a lot of water weight.
Also life insurance underwriter checking CICO is great when you're younger but I noticed that a lot of my clients who do that naturally (ex: two burgers/Chicken fried steak or just small portioned cabs all day and a snack here and there 5'10 160-170lb male 50s) are diabetic or pre-diabetic.
I don't know what your digestive issues were specifically, but try to aware people on enzymes and low stomach acid. As in you might be fine digesting meat if you add a good enzyme and heartburn can be due to low stomach acid which I think most people still aren't aware of.
https://www.lispine.com/blog/10-tell...-stomach-acid/
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
If anyone is wondering wtf I've been talking back and forth about with immune18, this is a 10 minute very basic discussion of it from a respected source, Dr. Jason Fung.
Interesting point and I see where you're coming from and why it makes sense.
Everyone is different when it comes to foods. I recently took a food allergy test, grains and corn were on the list, but also odd things like turkey and brussel sprouts. What works for one person isn't necessarily going to work for another.
On that last point, absolutely, and this points out a whole lot. I love seeing some fit kid in his 20s talking about how all it takes is CICO, just calories -- as if that means fuk all to some middle aged guy in his 40s with metabolic damage and a broken metabolism. Then you ask them a simple question, like what Insulin is, and they spurge out and attack you, suggest you googled it 10 minutes earlier, etc -- rather than just admit they aren't familiar with it.
This all day. If I don't have some carbs I get constipated. If I eat very much dairy I gain weight. I know I do better if I try to get in at least 2 servings of meat, 2 serving of green veggies, and 2-3 servings of carbs. This plus a yogurt and an apple or some berries, a little cheese- best I've found for me.If anyone is wondering wtf I've been talking back and forth about with immune18, this is a 10 minute very basic discussion of it from a respected source, Dr. Jason Fung.
Interesting point and I see where you're coming from and why it makes sense.
Everyone is different when it comes to foods. I recently took a food allergy test, grains and corn were on the list, but also odd things like turkey and brussel sprouts. What works for one person isn't necessarily going to work for another.
On that last point, absolutely, and this points out a whole lot. I love seeing some fit kid in his 20s talking about how all it takes is CICO, just calories -- as if that means fuk all to some middle aged guy in his 40s with metabolic damage and a broken metabolism. Then you ask them a simple question, like what Insulin is, and they spurge out and attack you, suggest you googled it 10 minutes earlier, etc -- rather than just admit they aren't familiar with it.
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11-02-2020, 09:00 AM
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Diet is important in the overall success for "health" and "longevity" also quality of life but net movement = why America and similar societies are fat.
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11-02-2020, 09:06 AM
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The cause of obesity is multivariate. Some of the causes include: diet (both type/amount), hydration, activity (both type/amount), stress levels, type of work, age, genetic profile, mental health, motivation, injuries, diseases, medications, drug use (including alcohol) and endocrine.
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