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post 1651467783 11-25-2021, 05:29 AM
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The only good thing about this video, is there were no microwaves thrown at lifeless bodies or 1500 curb stomps to the face. But then again why'd we expect those from a video which doesn't feature....
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Originally Posted By aal04
i dont know about American law, but isnt this similar to Arbery wrestling the gun away?
I think it's different cause Arbery wasn't in their property and they pursued/trapped him
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
i posed a hypothetical scenario. i said it might not be the details of the case. was legit asking a question within what i was saying

like i said.. if you know somebody kidnapped your son but its their property do you have to get off their property? that would mean someone has your property on their property correct?

what if somebody stole your stuff and they took it on their property?

now, i would imagine that the law says you can't be on their property but there may be little nuances.

you take issue with the hyperbolic "kidnapping" but i'm just trying to see if there's any way a defendant can get on their property; e.g. kidnapping or stolen items. i would think typically when a homeowner says "go away" they have grounds in their reasoning, well, what if the person has reason to be there

also, do we know for definitive fact that the property was indeed the guy who shot? or is that something that may come to light if they decide to pursue it civilly?

i also personally don't know the custody agreement
Yes in a kidnapping you could get your child or some one elses child. The person who 'kidnapped' them is committing a felony, so they are in the commission of a crime. *BUT* You better have damned good reason/evidence that this person kidnapped and currently has your child, like seeing your child in the house/property. Because if you walk up to a random house and you *think* they have your kid and they 100% dont and the person ends up shooting you, odds are they'll be fine. Because all they see is some crazy person trying to break into their home claiming there child is in there.

Keeping your child past the time the other parent is supposed to have them is not kidnapping. It is a family court issue. The person the child is with is their legal guarding, regardless if they 'kept them late'. They could make 10 different arguments for WHY they might have done this.


Property? That's a little bit different. You can't just waltz into someone elses house to take your **** back, if its being repo'd there are some different "loopholes" but if you're going to use them better be prepared for whatever outcome, which could be someone waking up middle of the night with a gun thinking there is an intruder.

Doesn't really matter if its his property or his wifes, gfs, or sisters property. He is currently residing there it appears. As long as he has legal right to ask/tell people to get off of it.
Originally Posted By TheTwilightZone
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think this was a good shooting.

The father had a legal right to be on the property. I don't think it's a good standard to allow someone to produce a firearm in a custody disagreement and order the other person to leave.

I could see it being reasonable if the father acted threatening or had gone inside the house. But this... was like surreal chit. It's weird how everyone talked calmly in the video after a man had been shot and killed. It almost doesn't seem real.
You can think it wasn't good. But he had no legal right to be on the property once the property owner asks and then tells you to leave.

That isn't a good standard at all. Showing up demanding to know where your child is from a person that seemingly doesn't know where he is, to then threatening that person after they've told you to leave their house/property, is also not a good standard.
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This is lubbock texas where i'm from i know Chad and he's an absolute lil spoiled POS manlet. His dad went to prison back in 2006 for defrauding a bank srs. Also this house wasn't Chad's it was his dad's house. The lady wanted to play games ( I think it was actually a setup by her). Chad's exwife is a judge her appointed by governor abott so case was handed over to the state to investigate. This is basically two ******* colliding. Kyle also owned a gym and scammed people out of money and went to prison he's an idiot to. Chad had been cheating on his judge wife with the baby mom in the video so they are getting divorced lol
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It will be interesting if the son later avenges his dad’s death.

I don’t know the full context of the events though.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
It will be interesting if the son later avenges his dad’s death.

I don’t know the full context of the events though.
dad went to get his kid, was supposed to be ready to be picked up by 3:15 "sloot" was playing games / hiding the kid, didnt' have him ready

dad went to find kid. sloot still didnt produce kid / dad as pissed

manlet went in the house got a kid and said get off my lawn, shooting happens

the end.
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Originally Posted By inkie77
This is lubbock texas where i'm from i know Chad and he's an absolute lil spoiled POS manlet. His dad went to prison back in 2006 for defrauding a bank srs. Also this house wasn't Chad's it was his dad's house. The lady wanted to play games ( I think it was actually a setup by her). Chad's exwife is a judge her appointed by governor abott so case was handed over to the state to investigate. This is basically two ******* colliding. Kyle also owned a gym and scammed people out of money and went to prison he's an idiot to. Chad had been cheating on his judge wife with the baby mom in the video so they are getting divorced lol
Classic case of "When *******s collide".
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Originally Posted By inkie77
This is lubbock texas where i'm from i know Chad and he's an absolute lil spoiled POS manlet. His dad went to prison back in 2006 for defrauding a bank srs. Also this house wasn't Chad's it was his dad's house. The lady wanted to play games ( I think it was actually a setup by her). Chad's exwife is a judge her appointed by governor abott so case was handed over to the state to investigate. This is basically two ******* colliding. Kyle also owned a gym and scammed people out of money and went to prison he's an idiot to. Chad had been cheating on his judge wife with the baby mom in the video so they are getting divorced lol
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jesus america is such a chithole
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Originally Posted By Harry362
What is it with white people snd ****ing violence? Kyle Rittenhouse goes on a murder spree, a mob of white people attack Darrell Brooks trying to flee from police trying to kill him, and now this

All in the same week


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Brb pulling a weapon on someone then shooting them & claiming self defence when they defend themselves. Brb brb.
Hope this pos goes down.
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Damn, he killed him without a second thought.
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Originally Posted By inkie77
This is lubbock texas where i'm from i know Chad and he's an absolute lil spoiled POS manlet. His dad went to prison back in 2006 for defrauding a bank srs. Also this house wasn't Chad's it was his dad's house. The lady wanted to play games ( I think it was actually a setup by her). Chad's exwife is a judge her appointed by governor abott so case was handed over to the state to investigate. This is basically two ******* colliding. Kyle also owned a gym and scammed people out of money and went to prison he's an idiot to. Chad had been cheating on his judge wife with the baby mom in the video so they are getting divorced lol
Always amazes me how utterly trashy and "redneck" some of these areas on America are.

Is it low IQ or what? People born with intelligence tend to leave those areas.
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If he had shot while the dad was still grabbing the gun or shoving him I'd say he has a reasonable self defence claim. That 2 second pause after getting distance makes it highly questionable.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
Brb pulling a weapon on someone then shooting them & claiming self defence when they defend themselves. Brb brb.
Hope this pos goes down.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
It will be interesting if the son later avenges his dad’s death.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
She was videoing because she knew something was going to happen. Speaks volumes right there.



Didn't even phase her, or shock her. That's the oddest part to me.
She didn’t realize he was dead. Listen at the very end. She loses it realizing he wasn’t just knocked out. She was in denial at the reality of what just happened
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Always amazes me how utterly trashy and "redneck" some of these areas on America are.

Is it low IQ or what? People born with intelligence tend to leave those areas.
Lol there is a ghetto America for every color. This is what people don’t understand. The crime is a socioeconomic one. The city is the worst because of population density and higher birth rates.

When people make crime about color, they know nothing. They want to say our system is racist because of the “hardships of color” that doesn’t affect whites…well, that’s not true. Skin colo has nothing to do with it. Its an issue of poverty across the world.

That’s why the liberal narrative burns me up. They truly are stupid
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If I was the kid I would murder my step-dad eventually and ghost my Mom
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
rednecks gon redneck
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That video is truly fukin’ disturbing...

Also, the killer’s choice of words are very telling, “I didn’t want to do any of this”.

That’s sloot-level mental gymnastics right there.
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Originally Posted By FastBack6
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Shoulda just gotten the cops when they wouldn't give him his kid
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Lol there is a ghetto America for every color. This is what people don’t understand. The crime is a socioeconomic one. The city is the worst because of population density and higher birth rates.

When people make crime about color, they know nothing. They want to say our system is racist because of the “hardships of color” that doesn’t affect whites…well, that’s not true. Skin colo has nothing to do with it. Its an issue of poverty across the world.

That’s why the liberal narrative burns me up. They truly are stupid
Here is the thing, these people apparently were not poor, or uneducated.


The shooter is a lawyer... The shooters wife (ex wife of the dead guy) is a judge. So both clearly went to law school.

The dead guy apparently owned a few businesses according to his obituary...

This isn't poverty.
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Originally Posted By nn586
that dude executed him like he wanted an excuse to use his new gun he just bought


then nonchalantly walks back up on the deck

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Exactly.

Legalities aside, it’s obvious the dude wanted to shoot him. It wasn’t about getting the other dude off his property, or protecting his home, or defusing the situation or whatever, those are all just things that gave him an excuse to do what he really wanted to do, which was to shoot the guy.
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I think that both men were being stupid about this situation and this is why police should handle disputes and not rednecks with guns. However, the man was just trying to get his son and it sounds like it was his time to get possession. No need for the 4"11 gentleman to go inside and grab a gun. When he grabbed the gun the biological dad should've did a 360 and run away. Hope the manlet spends his life in jail but who knows what kind of decision the courts make.
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