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Thread: Omicron 5 times more likely to reinfect than Delta; no less severe

post 1652818733 12-19-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Me assuming I have omicron is based on:

1) I had a rapid antigen test for covid and was positive
2) ontario is seeing a spike of 3000 cases per day they are attributing to omicron
3) I had mild symptoms

Regardless whatever I have is very mild and I can’t believe I’ve been told to self isolate when I feel completely fine right now and any symptoms from whatever I did have are gone.
Probably a false positive, but still a reasonable assumption.
post 1652818953 12-19-2021, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Darkius⏩
Probably a false positive, but still a reasonable assumption.
Hopefully.

I did a pcr test right after so I’m awaiting those results. Not like it really matters at this point since my symptoms are gone and were minor to begin with.
post 1652819033 12-19-2021, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah⏩
It seems like this variant is affecting the vaccinated more so than the unvaxxed
Likely people with weak immune systems were more likely to get vaccinated.
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What the hell is omicon? A new piece of tech? Thought that steve jobs guy kicked it.

Delta the airline still operational? I thought they'd bit the bankruptcy bullet years ago.
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post 1652823593 12-19-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar⏩
This reply is why nobody will take you seriously. He said nothing like that. No one should ‘seek’ it but it’s safe to assume everyone will get it at some pointwhether they’re symptomatic or not. Quit being such a fear monger and trying to push a shot that you nor most of us really know anything about past what we read from sources that range from all over the spectrum. Shilling for these lunatics better pay well because if you’re doing this for free you should take a long look in the mirror.
This was the post:
Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
Selection pressures on viruses cause them to become more infectious and cause fewer symptoms over time. The concept of a virus becoming somehow more dangerous does not make sense. Dangerous viruses cause the host to move around less and do not reproduce themselves as well as benign ones.

Omicron will infect everybodywith a very mild infection and give them immunity to covid-19.It is nature's vaccine.
If the position is that everyone will be infected with "nature's vaccine" and the Misc consensus is that people should not be vaccinated, doesn't it follow that the recommendation is that we all acquire immunity through infection rather than vaccination?

Where do I "push a shot"?
post 1652823773 12-19-2021, 03:16 PM
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Not even going to read this moronic thread.

Just pointing out they have an established IFR for omicron and it’s fukking .016%. It’s twenty time lower death rate then delta as actual fact. Go ahead and google whatever sources you want for the ifr. Get fukt.
post 1652824413 12-19-2021, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Not even going to read this moronic thread.

Just pointing out they have an established IFR for omicron and it’s fukking .016%. It’s twenty time lower death rate then delta as actual fact. Go ahead and google whatever sources you want for the ifr. Get fukt.
Would you say that only deaths matter in terms of health and healthcare impacts?


"Epidemiologist William Hanage, PhD, and infectious disease specialist Roby P. Bhattacharyya, MD, PhD, have authored an HCPDS working paper (Vol. 21, No. 10) in which they caution against inferring intrinsic traits (particularly, severity) from population-level observations, such as what has been observed in South Africa. Vaccination and immunity from prior infections, for example, complicate comparisons between the population-level infection-fatality rate (IFR) of Omicron versus earlier waves (e.g., the Delta variant)."

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/populat...riant-omicron/
post 1652824703 12-19-2021, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Would you say that only deaths matter in terms of health and healthcare impacts?


"Epidemiologist William Hanage, PhD, and infectious disease specialist Roby P. Bhattacharyya, MD, PhD, have authored an HCPDS working paper (Vol. 21, No. 10) in which they caution against inferring intrinsic traits (particularly, severity) from population-level observations, such as what has been observed in South Africa. Vaccination and immunity from prior infections, for example, complicate comparisons between the population-level infection-fatality rate (IFR) of Omicron versus earlier waves (e.g., the Delta variant)."

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/populat...riant-omicron/
Wish you weren’t on spread so I could neg for constant fear-mongering
post 1652824863 12-19-2021, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Wish you weren’t on spread so I could neg for constant fear-mongering
Why is discussion considered fear mongering?

Do you neg everyone who posts recent articles?

It's a recent paper that suggests Omicron is more likely to reinfect vs Delta. What part of that suggests fear is warranted?

Apparently someone saying "I don't like that, so I disagree" is getting "rekt".
post 1652825003 12-19-2021, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So any update on posting a single number for the VE?

Or the pic of the vial of Comirnaty that you got at the local pharmacy?

I can't find that number you which you keep referring, which is why I asked you to post it.

You refuse, which I guess is me getting "rekt"
post 1652825213 12-19-2021, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
A single number to represent VE the same way as you used a single number to represent reinfection.

Why do you keep dodging?

You're just make yourself as slimy as you really are.
Is it in the article?

Post it so we can discuss
post 1652825473 12-19-2021, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No, you post it. If it is not in the article, can you explain why it's not in there?

Obligatory reminder for the pic that proves that you can get Comirnaty at your local pharmacy.
So you've been repeatedly asking me to post something from the article that isn't in the article?
post 1652825633 12-19-2021, 04:00 PM
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OP do you know any and most "studies" the data is surely cherry picked to have a desired outcome. Also you're an absolute *******.

meanwhile in sweeden the streets are covered in bodies

Spoiler!

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post 1652825753 12-19-2021, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...vid-admissions

"No less severe".
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post 1652825833 12-19-2021, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Well, you're really stubborn to admit there isn't.

And you're pretending to be too dumb to understand the study enough to post the number that wasn't explicitly in the article.

I wonder why, in both cases?

Everyone knows why, including you.
I pasted all the vaccine- and doese-specific hazard risk ratios:

Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"We found a significant increased risk of an Omicron case compared to Delta for those with vaccine status:

AZ 2+weeks post-dose 2 (PD2) 1.86 (95%CI: 1.67-2.08),

Pfizer 2+w PD2 2.68 (95%CI: 2.54-2.83),

AZ 2+w post-dose 3 (PD3) 4.32 (95%CI: 3.84-4.85)

PF 2+w PD3 4.07 (95%CI: 3.66-4.51)PD3 states are categorised by the dose 1/2 vaccine used). Depending on the Delta VE estimates used (10),

These estimates translate into Omicron VE estimates of between0% and 20% PD2and between55% and 80% PD3against Omicron,

consistent with other estimates (11). Similar estimates were obtained using genotype data, albeit with greater uncertainty."

Does that help?
post 1652825913 12-19-2021, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
OP do you know any and most "studies" the data is surely cherry picked to have a desired outcome. Also you're an absolute *******.
Does that rule of thumb also apply to the "studies" that support the consensus narrative?

Odd that folks get so upset about a study.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's how research works.
Tell us how your brain works because from here it doesn't seem to be working.
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post 1652825993 12-19-2021, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Please go back and read the post where I explicitly asked for a single number, just like you posted a single number for reinfection.
The numbers I posted are from the article, including the relative risk of reinfection (and the 95% CI). You just said the number you're asking for isn't in the article. So you're asking for something that can't be provided?
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
Tell us how your brain works because from here it doesn't seem to be working.
Hypotheses are a pretty significant component in research design and analysis.
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how are ppl still talking about this hoax
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Hypotheses are a pretty significant component in research design and analysis.
So when this one ends up being horribly inaccurate will you bump this thread to admit you were wrong, or will you just be posting another fear porn thread at that point?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Hypotheses are a pretty significant component in research design and analysis.
Only when they are aligned with your existing beliefs right babe?
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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩
I couldn't care less about the disparity between the two sets of facts. I'm going to keep on living my life. I've had the virus once over Christmas last year. I don't feel that hot right now but I have been waaaay sicker. I'm at church this morning. Everyone here is sick. We are also sick of the hysteria. It's been two years. All this theater is just that, theater. I couldn't care less about who thinks what. We are going to do us. I suggest everyone else do the same.

Wearing masks still is stupid. Threatening lockdowns is stupid. Making me show paperwork proving my vax status is stupid. It's going to get to the point, SUPER SOON, where bullets will start flying if they keep going down this slope. Screw y'all JeCovid Witnesses.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So when this one ends up being horribly inaccurate will you bump this thread to admit you were wrong, or will you just be posting another fear porn thread at that point?
I still don't see why anyone would be afraid of this information.

If it's retracted, sure, I'll resurrect the thread for more negs.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
Only when they are aligned with your existing beliefs right babe?
No, not at all. The process is fairly standard.

Research starts with a question, then hypotheses regarding the question, then a design to test the hypotheses.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I am asking you to read the data, and come up with a single number for VE in a similar sentence like the number for the reinfection.

You're think you're really good at pretending to be dumb, don't you?

Oh and still waiting on that pic of the vial of Comirnaty you got from your local pharmacy.

Edit : Here's what the sentence needs to look like, but for VE:
That sentence is a quote from the article. Notice the quotation marks.

Please post the quote you'd like to discuss.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I still don't see why anyone would be afraid of this information.

If it's retracted, sure, I'll resurrect the thread for more negs.
Anyone with half a functioning brain cell isn’t “afraid of this information” because they realize it’s bullsh!t. Subbed so I can check in occasionally to see if you stay true to your word.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And finally, we release the "study" based on "assumptions" and "implications of assumptions". If we're really good at it, we fudge the numbers by two decimal points in our favour.
Assumptions and hypotheses are integral in research and analysis.
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