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post 1685636333 06-30-2023, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You forcibly shutdown these businesses, you either help them stay afloat, while you forcibly shut them down, or they go out of business.
Some businesses survived being shut down without taking PPP loans though.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, the owners fukked over by covid rules deserve the help. I also think students deserve the help to about the same extent.
post 1685656793 07-01-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
My point is that PPP wasn't ever intended to be a mechanism for compensation, it was a loan.
Very deceptive claim. PPP, from the beginning, was explicitly written/passed/enacted to include "forgiveness" if employers maintained a certain level of employees and compensation.

https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs...an-forgiveness
post 1685657663 07-01-2023, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Very deceptive claim. PPP, from the beginning, was explicitly written/passed/enacted to include "forgiveness" if employers maintained a certain level of employees and compensation.

https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs...an-forgiveness
Are you saying the thing on that website continuously referred to as a loan wasn't a loan?
post 1685663673 07-01-2023, 09:18 AM
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Room temperature IQ comments ITT

Ah yes, the society cannot progress because people in the past had it worse argument lmao
post 1685664193 07-01-2023, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Are you saying the thing on that website continuously referred to as a loan wasn't a loan?
seetard the retard trying to play word games.
BTW impressed at the multi syllable words you surprised me there.

unfortunately, the only thing that matters is the actual terms and nutsy is 100% correct.
post 1685664233 07-01-2023, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Very deceptive claim. PPP, from the beginning, was explicitly written/passed/enacted to include "forgiveness" if employers maintained a certain level of employees and compensation.

https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs...an-forgiveness
not his fault.
libs lack the focus to read something.
they can only handle a headline or title then they are told what to think and go from there.
post 1685664423 07-01-2023, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
not his fault.
libs lack the focus to read something.
they can only handle a headline or title then they are told what to think and go from there.
Widget the Midget here is what happens when two siblings in Alabama breed. No matter how hot your cousin is, do not fuk her lmao.
post 1685664763 07-01-2023, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Jericho8989⏩
Widget the Midget here is what happens when two siblings in Alabama breed. No matter how hot your cousin is, do not fuk her lmao.
i can see that 4 yr degree paying off by your sub-par rhyming skills.
but, didn't they teach alliteration in your poetry elective?

here, let me help you out and give you the secret to getting a job.
it's 4 simple words and it will change your life.

"want fries with that?"

you commit those to memory and fryer operation is within your grasp.
after 18 months on the job.
post 1685664793 07-01-2023, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
seetard the retard trying to play word games.
BTW impressed at the multi syllable words you surprised me there.

unfortunately, the only thing that matters is the actual terms and nutsy is 100% correct.
Calling something what it is is “word games” huh? Fuk, you argue like a woman.

You are on the right track about the terms of a loan being what matters. Most student loans have a forgiveness clause in them as well.

I don’t know why you want to pretend that terms aren’t negotiable and renegotiable though.
post 1685664913 07-01-2023, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
i can see that 4 yr degree paying off by your sub-par rhyming skills.
but, didn't they teach alliteration in your poetry elective?

here, let me help you out and give you the secret to getting a job.
it's 4 simple words and it will change your life.

"want fries with that?"

you commit those to memory and fryer operation is within your grasp.
after 18 months on the job.
Weak rebuttal. But you cannot expect much from an inbred whose father is also his grandfather.
post 1685665223 07-01-2023, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Calling something what it is is “word games” huh? Fuk, you argue like a woman.

You are on the right track about the terms of a loan being what matters. Most student loans have a forgiveness clause in them as well.

I don’t know why you want to pretend that terms aren’t negotiable and renegotiable though.
show me where government loan's have forgiveness built in.
i'll wait.

meanwhile

First Draw PPP Loan forgiveness terms
First Draw PPP loans made to eligible borrowers qualify for full loan forgiveness if during the 8- to 24-week covered period following loan disbursement:

Employee and compensation levels are maintained,
The loan proceeds are spent on payroll costs and other eligible expenses, and
At least 60% of the proceeds are spent on payroll costs.
Second Draw PPP Loan forgiveness terms
Second Draw PPP loans made to eligible borrowers qualify for full loan forgiveness if during the 8- to 24-week covered period following loan disbursement:

Employee and compensation levels are maintained in the same manner as required for the First Draw PPP loan,
The loan proceeds are spent on payroll costs and other eligible expenses, and
At least 60% of the proceeds are spent on payroll costs.

See Tard, it's right there.

i know your lips will get tired by the second section so i won't expect much in the way of an intelligible response from you.
it's ok.
I understand.
post 1685665253 07-01-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Jericho8989⏩
Weak rebuttal. But you cannot expect much from an inbred whose father is also his grandfather.
coming from some whose 2nd mom used to be his dad, i consider that a compliment.
post 1685665723 07-01-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
show me where government loan's have forgiveness built in.
i'll wait.

meanwhile

First Draw PPP Loan forgiveness terms
First Draw PPP loans made to eligible borrowers qualify for full loan forgiveness if during the 8- to 24-week covered period following loan disbursement:

Employee and compensation levels are maintained,
The loan proceeds are spent on payroll costs and other eligible expenses, and
At least 60% of the proceeds are spent on payroll costs.
Second Draw PPP Loan forgiveness terms
Second Draw PPP loans made to eligible borrowers qualify for full loan forgiveness if during the 8- to 24-week covered period following loan disbursement:

Employee and compensation levels are maintained in the same manner as required for the First Draw PPP loan,
The loan proceeds are spent on payroll costs and other eligible expenses, and
At least 60% of the proceeds are spent on payroll costs.

See Tard, it's right there.

i know your lips will get tired by the second section so i won't expect much in the way of an intelligible response from you.
it's ok.
I understand.
Again dude, you’re too ignorant to be trying this hard.

Use your google to look up the PSLF program for student loans.

Look up the loan period for those that don’t qualify for PSLF.

Quit being a whiney bitch.
post 1685665853 07-01-2023, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
coming from some whose 2nd mom used to be his dad, i consider that a compliment.
You will consider your toothless, trailer trash, crackwhore mother having a higher body count than both of your IQ's combined a compliment lol.
post 1685666033 07-01-2023, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Some businesses survived being shut down without taking PPP loans though.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, the owners fukked over by covid rules deserve the help. I also think students deserve the help to about the same extent.
You don't understand the difference? These students weren't "****ed" over.
post 1685666123 07-01-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Again dude, you’re too ignorant to be trying this hard.

Use your google to look up the PSLF program for student loans.

Look up the loan period for those that don’t qualify for PSLF.

Quit being a whiney bitch.
so nothing intelligent to say.
just screeching. "go look it up".

nah, you post it here. the exact text that makes it the same as the PPP program.

or just keep crying.
post 1685666213 07-01-2023, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Jericho8989⏩
You will consider your toothless, trailer trash, crackwhore mother having a higher body count than both of your IQ's combined a compliment lol.
you made AF junior.
you kiss your mother's with that mouth?
post 1685666393 07-01-2023, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You don't understand the difference? These students weren't "****ed" over.
he might but his cultist brainwashing won't allow him to admit that.
imagine going into massive debt for a useless college degree and ending up being on par professionally with people who have a few credits under their belt at the community college.
post 1685666863 07-01-2023, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You don't understand the difference? These students weren't "****ed" over.
They disagree.
post 1685666963 07-01-2023, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
nah, you post it here. the exact text that makes it the same as the PPP program.
LOL No.

You’re not going to be spoon fed around here.
post 1685669003 07-01-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
right on time.
post 1685669263 07-01-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Again dude, you’re too ignorant to be trying this hard.

Use your google to look up the PSLF program for student loans.

Look up the loan period for those that don’t qualify for PSLF.

Quit being a whiney bitch.


PPP Loans were one time thing.

Student loans are forever, or as long as students apply and get loans. Given this, if the student loan forgiveness was approved by Congress, are the dems and progressives going to fight for another round each and every year and for hundreds of billions of dollars? How is this one time fair? How is it fair to those who pay?

Biden started this to buy votes and now he has to blame others for what he knew was coming. That is fraud.
Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
They disagree.
How were they ****ed over? They took out a loan, they went to college, they spent that loan money on what was needed, plus on other **** like vacations, booze, Drugs, gambling, clothes, etc.

You remind me of when I had a BMW, when I went to get it fixed it was at a dealership near Joilet. Certain "people" would bring their car back after 3 months, and be like, "Yeah......I don't want it no more."

The employees would be like, "Ummmmmmm......it's your car, this wasn't a rental."

Then they would just leave the car there, until the repo guys came. But they honestly thought that the payments would stop.
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin⏩
Only thing I'll agree on since I have student loans still is either get rid of the interest rates or lower the cost. You hear people coming out of school with 100k+ of debt. That's insane.
Jeez, I wonder how I end up with 120K in debt when I need 120 credits to graduate and each credit costs $1000. What happened?!?!?!

Here are a few options for our poor liberals:

- Go to a normal college and not "muh fancy football team" college
- Graduate with a degree in something useful and not "I want to be a celebrity in Hollywood"
- Go to trade school and stop being a narcissist who thinks he's too good for a manual work
- Join the military that will give you a job experience and pay for your college with TA and GI Bill
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
How were they ****ed over? They took out a loan, they went to college, they spent that loan money on what was needed, plus on other **** like vacations, booze, Drugs, gambling, clothes, etc.

You remind me of when I had a BMW, when I went to get it fixed it was at a dealership near Joilet. Certain "people" would bring their car back after 3 months, and be like, "Yeah......I don't want it no more."

The employees would be like, "Ummmmmmm......it's your car, this wasn't a rental."

Then they would just leave the car there, until the repo guys came. But they honestly thought that the payments would stop.
This is the type of sheer irresponsibility and obnoxious entitlement we end up with after decades of pandering to a bunch of deadbeats, and incentivizing others to follow their footsteps when they see that there's no repercussions for being a burden to society.

This college loan forgiveness will do nothing more than encourage others to stop paying their debts and try to swindle everyone around them.
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Hopefully they just lower interest rates like actually makes sense.
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
Jeez, I wonder how I end up with 120K in debt when I need 120 credits to graduate and each credit costs $1000. What happened?!?!?!

Here are a few options for our poor liberals:

- Go to a normal college and not "muh fancy football team" college
- Graduate with a degree in something useful and not "I want to be a celebrity in Hollywood"
- Go to trade school and stop being a narcissist who thinks he's too good for a manual work
- Join the military that will give you a job experience and pay for your college with TA and GI Bill
-go to a community college and get all your gen eds out of the way at a much lesser cost. Then transfer to your university of choice for your bachelors
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Any reason this couldn’t have been done when they had all 3 branches?
See you tomorrow
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩


PPP Loans were one time thing.

Student loans are forever, or as long as students apply and get loans. Given this, if the student loan forgiveness was approved by Congress, are the dems and progressives going to fight for another round each and every year and for hundreds of billions of dollars? How is this one time fair? How is it fair to those who pay?

Biden started this to buy votes and now he has to blame others for what he knew was coming. That is fraud.
well it's clear the only solution that will quell the feels is free liberal arts degrees at 75k a pop for everyone!
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
-go to a community college and get all your gen eds out of the way at a much lesser cost. Then transfer to your university of choice for your bachelors
I remember one co-worker bragging about his SAT scores, and where he went to college, looked at him and was like, "And yet here you are, a cop just like me, about to tell this hoodrat that we can't do something about her kid being disrespectful."

Another one it was different, he worked administration in the Marines, other former marines claimed he wasn't a "real marine," guy ended up working in HQ, making connections, climbing the ladder, etc.

He also didn't have to become a cop, he could have joined the corporate world with what he learned working administration.
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