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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
This is unhinged
And if I shot someone and they were incapacitated, I'd call the pigs to deal with it
I wouldn't taunt and murder them.
They tortured that man and made his life of retirement a living hell for months. That doesn't matter all though, huh?This is unhinged
And if I shot someone and they were incapacitated, I'd call the pigs to deal with it
I wouldn't taunt and murder them.
Also, if he had shot them and they had lived, there's a very good chance he'd have still been charged with something pretty bad in that blue hellhole state that happened in. Just sayin'.
11-08-2023, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted By HollywoodHHogan⏩
Don't feed the trolloThey tortured that man and made his life of retirement a living hell for months. That doesn't matter all though, huh?
Also, if he had shot them and they had lived, there's a very good chance he'd have still been charged with something pretty bad in that blue hellhole state that happened in. Just sayin'.
Also, if he had shot them and they had lived, there's a very good chance he'd have still been charged with something pretty bad in that blue hellhole state that happened in. Just sayin'.
11-08-2023, 06:14 AM
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11-08-2023, 06:21 AM
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I know a guy that did the same thing but he didn't have to finish them off with extra shots. He kept getting broke into and so in his basement he built a little retaining wall a few feet high with some steel plate and heavy wood covering it. Some guys broke in and he jumped behind his wall and waited for them to walk around the corner and he blew them way with a shotgun. The guys were a couple of joggers that were even wearing some of his stuff that had been stolen in previous burglaries. The guy got off free, but this was 30 years ago in god's country, he probably wouldn't be so lucky today.
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Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
You negged me over that?Don't feed the trollo
Have you always had a vagina and high estrogen, or are you trans?
11-08-2023, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By HollywoodHHogan⏩
I'm early awaiting my reps to r/c so I can neg you tooYou negged me over that?
Have you always had a vagina and high estrogen, or are you trans?
Have you always had a vagina and high estrogen, or are you trans?
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11-08-2023, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Miscing is super cereal business, fellas. LmaoI'm early awaiting my reps to r/c so I can neg you too
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Originally Posted By HollywoodHHogan⏩
Oh you just evidently care about your reps and wanted to cry so I thought I'd help the tears flowMiscing is super cereal business, fellas. Lmao
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11-08-2023, 07:37 AM
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If only there was something they could have done or not done to avoid ending up inside that guy's home
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[QUOTE=PissantSoldier post_id=1693020243][youtube]fhUn5cRJBbY[/yofutube]
This is unhinged
And if I shot someone and they were incapacitated, I'd call the pigs to deal with it
I wouldn't taunt and murder them.[/QUOTE]He shot them both pretty quick after they walked down the stairs. The guy killing lasted about 6 seconds, the girl 14 seconds.
People call that torture? I call it defending your property.
This is unhinged
And if I shot someone and they were incapacitated, I'd call the pigs to deal with it
I wouldn't taunt and murder them.[/QUOTE]He shot them both pretty quick after they walked down the stairs. The guy killing lasted about 6 seconds, the girl 14 seconds.
People call that torture? I call it defending your property.
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11-08-2023, 03:43 PM
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11-08-2023, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
If only there had beensomethingthose teenagers could have done so they could have avoided breaking into and burglarizing that man's home numerous times over several months...Imagine dragging a girl you shot multiple times across the floor who is screaming "oh God," mocking her, calling her names, before dumping her on her dead cousin body before head shotting her. Then preted it was self defense and not psychopathic murderous rage. Lot if sick fuks we live with on this planet.
11-08-2023, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
What an idiot for letting this get out of hand like it did. Stupid games/stupid prizes for all involved.I see nothing wrong with this, SRS:
What else is he supposed to do? People break in, hide in silence so they don't shoot him. Shoot guy and he falls down stairs, you don't know if he has gun so you shoot again.
Girl breaks in, shoots her and again you don't know if she has a gun, so you kill her.
Waits a day to call police. What law says you need to call police?
What else is he supposed to do? People break in, hide in silence so they don't shoot him. Shoot guy and he falls down stairs, you don't know if he has gun so you shoot again.
Girl breaks in, shoots her and again you don't know if she has a gun, so you kill her.
Waits a day to call police. What law says you need to call police?
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11-08-2023, 05:09 PM
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The correct action would have been to shoot them until they stopped moving/being a threat, call the police to come deal with the corpses
Its the calmly walking up and execution part, putting them in tarps, not calling police for over a day that got him in trouble, also the recording of it all pretty much let the police know this guy is an unhinged pyschopath
Could you imagine if police shoot at a criminal, he goes down the officers walk up later on and just say "your dead" and put the gun under their chin and pull the trigger?
Thats third worlder savage type chit
Its the calmly walking up and execution part, putting them in tarps, not calling police for over a day that got him in trouble, also the recording of it all pretty much let the police know this guy is an unhinged pyschopath
Could you imagine if police shoot at a criminal, he goes down the officers walk up later on and just say "your dead" and put the gun under their chin and pull the trigger?
Thats third worlder savage type chit
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
6 seconds to kill guy, 14 seconds to kill girl.That's not how the law works big boy. You want to be a savage, move to the Middle East or build a time machine.
Law should work that way.
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
People break into your home. You think they are armed or unarmed....or do you act like they are always armed and shoot them down the stairs?An unarmed 17yo female. Savagery, i'm hoping that most people here are trolling and not really serious.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
The interesting part is if he just unloads on both of them as they are coming down the stairs, changes the story while resulting in same outcome.You keep ignoring that she was incapacitated before he dragged her across the ground before head shotting her.
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Just make sure they are dead before they hit the floor and you're good... or, just never call the cops and dispose of the bodies yourself.
This guy had issues. Nothing against self-defense and extreme force, but uh... maybe don't make a big spectacle of it.
This guy had issues. Nothing against self-defense and extreme force, but uh... maybe don't make a big spectacle of it.
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Originally Posted By wickedman⏩
if he did that he wouldnt have been convicted of first degree murder, may have not been charged at all, that would have been self defenseThe interesting part is if he just unloads on both of them as they are coming down the stairs, changes the story while resulting in same outcome.
11-09-2023, 11:45 AM
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lol @ the people saying he "tortured" them and chit, lmao. He had no idea if they were armed or not. The fact that one was a female does not matter. Where he f0cked up was shooting her again like 2 minutes later, not calling the police, and hiding their bodies in a closet.
Those dumb little fuks ruined 3 lives for nothing, countless more if we're including families.
Those dumb little fuks ruined 3 lives for nothing, countless more if we're including families.
11-09-2023, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Too bad you weren't on his jury.At least twelve people unanimously agreed that he murdered them.lol @ the people saying he "tortured" them and chit, lmao. He had no idea if they were armed or not. The fact that one was a female does not matter. Where he f0cked up was shooting her again like 2 minutes later, not calling the police, and hiding their bodies in a closet.
Those dumb little fuks ruined 3 lives for nothing, countless more if we're including families.
Those dumb little fuks ruined 3 lives for nothing, countless more if we're including families.
11-09-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
I don't know what Minnesota's laws are but you should be allowed to shoot anyone who breaks into your home. inb4 "what about during a fire???".Too bad you weren't on his jury.At least twelve people unanimously agreed that he murdered them.
How can you possibly know if someone is no longer a threat if they're still alive/moving? You don't know what their intentions are or what weapons they might have. Although I don't think anyone would say it's reasonable to shoot someone again two minutes later. If two minutes have passed (where you thought they were dead), they're clearly not a threat.
His actions after the initial shootings made it easy for the prosecutor. He shot her again, didn't call the police, and wrapped them up. I'm not surprised the jury found him guilty.
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This guy went in front of a grand jury, through a trial then several appeals.
All he had to do was shoot them, then call the cops and he’d been a free man today
All he had to do was shoot them, then call the cops and he’d been a free man today
Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
.I don't know what Minnesota's laws are but you should be allowed to shoot anyone who breaks into your home. inb4 "what about during a fire???".
How can you possibly know if someone is no longer a threat if they're still alive/moving? You don't know what their intentions are or what weapons they might have. Although I don't think anyone would say it's reasonable to shoot someone again two minutes later. If two minutes have passed (where you thought they were dead), they're clearly not a threat.
His actions after the initial shootings made it easy for the prosecutor. He shot her again, didn't call the police, and wrapped them up. I'm not surprised the jury found him guilty.
How can you possibly know if someone is no longer a threat if they're still alive/moving? You don't know what their intentions are or what weapons they might have. Although I don't think anyone would say it's reasonable to shoot someone again two minutes later. If two minutes have passed (where you thought they were dead), they're clearly not a threat.
His actions after the initial shootings made it easy for the prosecutor. He shot her again, didn't call the police, and wrapped them up. I'm not surprised the jury found him guilty.
Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf⏩
Yes, he was the victim BUT he crossed the line from neutralizing a threat to his life to purposely taking their lives—especially the way he went about it.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/tex...ssion_number=0
Subd. 4. Presumptions.
(a) An individual using deadly force is presumed to possess a
reasonable belief that there exists an imminent threat of substantial bodily harm, great bodily
harm, or death to the individual or another person, if the individual knows or has reason to
know that:
(1) the person against whom the defensive action is being taken is unlawfully entering or attempting to enter by force or by stealth, or has unlawfully entered by force or by stealth and remains within, the dwelling or occupied vehicle of the individual.
There is a line, it’s written in the law, he crossed it. He said he crossed it, he planned on crossing it.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/tex...ssion_number=0
Subd. 4. Presumptions.
(a) An individual using deadly force is presumed to possess a
reasonable belief that there exists an imminent threat of substantial bodily harm, great bodily
harm, or death to the individual or another person, if the individual knows or has reason to
know that:
(1) the person against whom the defensive action is being taken is unlawfully entering or attempting to enter by force or by stealth, or has unlawfully entered by force or by stealth and remains within, the dwelling or occupied vehicle of the individual.
There is a line, it’s written in the law, he crossed it. He said he crossed it, he planned on crossing it.
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