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05-07-2024, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
We’ll pick up here tomorrow..

Anu

In the Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, Anu is persuaded by his daughter, Ishtar, to give her the Bull of Heaven so that she might send it to attack Gilgamesh. Unfortunately for the Bull of Heaven, Gilgamesh kills the beast and throws its right thigh at Ishtar’s head.

https://oracc.museum.upenn.edu//amgg/listofdeities/an

Interested to see what you will speak on this regard…



Enki

I’m really hoping you are going to claim that this is “Lucifer” in the Bible, just rebranded…but I’m gonna let you embarrass yourself with this one..



Hopefully you’ll also make the false presumption that the Tower of Babel was copied from Sumerian texts as well…that’s something I’d love to get into!
All of the sumerian 'gods' are satans - the first rule of God is that there is no idols or pictures of God. Same deal as when somebody calls YHWH the storm god and shows an idol from caanan thinking they're smart. That's not YHWH. Commandment exist for a reason.
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05-07-2024, 06:59 PM
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All of the sumerian 'gods' are satans - the first rule of God is that there is no idols or pictures of God. Same deal as when somebody calls YHWH the storm god and shows an idol from caanan thinking they're smart. That's not YHWH. Commandment exist for a reason.
Yup, unfortunately Abzu is in for an education that I’m sure he is not ready for. I do hope he revisits this thread.
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05-07-2024, 07:02 PM
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For a very long time I did not believe in a one true God. I was sitting on the floor watching the fish and I realized this, everything is as it should be. The way the fish swim, the way plants grow. It's all by design. Even if evolution was real that's a percent of a percent of a chance that a particular thing evolves the way it does. But it's everything. Everything has a purpose. Evolution cannot account for that. And then for the first time I heard the voice. It was the same sound from my nightmares as a child. Likes giant rocks crashing from the sky. But now I actually heard the words. And what I was told was not what I wanted to hear. I don't care if anyone believes me but maybe someone will and have their own oh **** moment. Real life is far stronger than fiction. The best author or director cannot even come close. I hope this helps someone, but if it doesn't I don't care.

Some people use religion as a mask but it cannot be everyone.
What did you hear? I can tell you that very often satan can masquerade as angel of light and pretend to be God. I'd say to use the bible as an anchor

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Yup, unfortunately Abzu is in for an education that I’m sure he is not ready for. I do hope he revisits this thread.
I say this because people often think that enlil is equivalent to God - not true at all. They're all satans. Enki, enlil, anu, the whole lot.
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05-07-2024, 07:19 PM
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I was told I had to give up three things. My ego, my anger, and the last is something I don't want to put on here. Too personal and I'm not quite there yet. Still learning
Lmfao - pick up a bible please and take your godly advice from there. More often than not mystical experiences come from the devil than the actual God, especially if you were not a strong believer to begin with.

I say this as someone who had plenty of mystical experiences and in the end i realised it was all a demonic deception.

Did the voice tell you to pick up a bible or worship Jesus Christ?
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05-07-2024, 07:21 PM
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Lmfao - pick up a bible please and take your godly advice from there. More often than not mystical experiences come from the devil than the actual God, especially if you were not a strong believer to begin with.

I say this as someone who had plenty of mystical experiences and in the end i realised it was all a demonic deception.
Ah ok..you're a troll. I have read parts of the Bible. You do know the Bible has been rewritten many times over by man right? The word of God never changes
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05-07-2024, 07:23 PM
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Ah ok..you're a troll. I have read parts of the Bible. You do know the Bible has been rewritten many times over by man right? The word of God never changes
No, I am being serious - please heed my warning or you'll find out the hard way.

I don't know how else to say it - if a spirit or voice doesn't tell you to believe in Jesus or believe in the bible, that's an antichrist.

I really did learn the hard way.
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05-07-2024, 07:25 PM
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No, I am being serious - please heed my warning or you'll find out the hard way.

I don't know how else to say it - if a spirit or voice doesn't tell you to believe in Jesus or believe in the bible, that's an antichrist.
Tower of Babel brother. People like you wanted to be like God rather than teach his word. Why do you think all old religions have similar stories. It's all the same religion tainted by man over 1000s of years
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05-07-2024, 07:27 PM
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Tower of Babel brother. People like you wanted to be like God rather than teach his word. Why do you think all old religions have similar stories. It's all the same religion tainted by man over 1000s of years
Been there done that.

Bible is the word of God and Jesus is the only God - the others are fallen angels from the bible.

Take my advice or find out the hard way.
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05-07-2024, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Been there done that.

Bible is the word of God and Jesus is the only God - the others are fallen angels from the bible.

Take my advice or find out the hard way.
What Bible are you reading that hasn't been changed or parts taken out?
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05-07-2024, 07:30 PM
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What Bible are you reading that hasn't been changed or parts taken out?
Pretty sure the number of parts changed or taken out of the original manuscrips is miniscule.
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05-07-2024, 07:31 PM
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Pretty sure the number of parts changed or taken out of the original manuscrips is miniscule.
And yet, it's still not the word of God. The word of God does not change because God does not change.

Since you're so adamant that I'm being deceived why don't you share your experience
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05-07-2024, 07:36 PM
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And yet, it's still not the word of God. The word of God does not change because God does not change.

Since you're so adamant that I'm being deceived why don't you share your experience
So which God and religion do you follow?

I've experienced it all - sensing energy, bliss, predicting the future, intuiting other people's thoughts, etc - it's all demonic.
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05-07-2024, 07:37 PM
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So which God and religion do you follow?

I've experienced it all - sensing energy, bliss, predicting the future, intuiting other people's thoughts, etc - it's all demonic.
I never claimed to be able to do any of those things. I follow the one true God and that's it
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05-07-2024, 07:39 PM
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Tower of Babel brother. People like you wanted to be like God rather than teach his word. Why do you think all old religions have similar stories. It's all the same religion tainted by man over 1000s of years
There are similar stories, but only one the Bible is the true account of history and truth.
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05-07-2024, 07:40 PM
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I never claimed to be able to do any of those things. I follow the one true God and that's it
It's not that simple. Muslims and Sikhs claim to follow the 'one true god' even the pagan hindus believe in 'one god'.

Believing in 'one god' can litirally mean anything - the devil is in the detail with this one.

I am telling you that Jesus is His name.

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There are similar stories, but only one the Bible is the true account of history and truth.
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05-07-2024, 07:43 PM
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It's not that simple. Muslims and Sikhs claim to follow the 'one true god' even the pagan hindus believe in 'one god'.

Believing in 'one god' can litirally mean anything - the devil is in the detail with this one.

I am telling you that Jesus is His name.



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No you're wrong. There are evil people that follow all religions. God even warns us of such in the Christian Bible. Are you now saying that God is wrong?
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05-07-2024, 07:45 PM
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And yet, it's still not the word of God. The word of God does not change because God does not change.

Since you're so adamant that I'm being deceived why don't you share your experience
This is a slippery slope, but there is no evidence that the essential Christian documents have ever changed. Nearly every scholar gives testament that the New Testament is incredibly reliable to what was originally written.

Quran has many versions however
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05-07-2024, 07:45 PM
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No you're wrong. There are evil people that follow all religions. God even warns us of such in the Christian Bible.
Listen - I am trying to help you.

Whether a Christian is non-observant or not makes no difference - i agree that just saying you're a christian isn't good enough.

Saying you believe in the 'one true god' can mean anything - all non-christian religions at their core belief in 'one god' as a way to cover their asses.

You need to believe in a very specific 'One True God' named Jesus Christ.
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05-07-2024, 07:47 PM
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No you're wrong. There are evil people that follow all religions. God even warns us of such in the Christian Bible. Are you now saying that God is wrong?
Nothing you stated is in relation to what WiseOldApe posted. Reread his post, then yours. The god of the quran is a false moon god.
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05-07-2024, 07:49 PM
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Listen - I am trying to help you.

Saying you believe in the 'one true god' can mean anything - all non-christian religions at their core belief in 'one god' as a way to cover their asses.

You need to believe in a very specific 'One True God' named Jesus Christ.
No they believe in one true God because that's all there is. You think you speak the word of God. You do not. You are so narrow minded you can't even learn from your own Bible. The story of Babel is a cautionary tale about people like you thinking they speak for God so he devided them.

I came in here to share my experience and you of all people said it didn't happen. Why? Because it didn't happen to you? Well here's the thing about God. He only speaks to those willing to listen. So if he hasnt spoke to you, well then you simply aren't ready
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05-07-2024, 07:52 PM
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No they believe in one true God because that's all there is. You think you speak the word of God. You do not. You are so narrow minded you can't even learn from your own Bible. The story of Babel is a cautionary tale about people like you thinking they speak for God so he devided them.

I came in here to share my experience and you of all people said it didn't happen. Why? Because it didn't happen to you? Well here's the thing about God. He only speaks to those willing to listen. So if he hasnt spoke to you, well then you simply aren't ready
I'm not saying your experience did not happen, I'm curious who you think the "One true God is"..?

Can you expound on that?
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05-07-2024, 07:54 PM
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I'm not saying your experience did not happen, I'm curious who you think the "One true God is"..?

Can you expound on that?
He goes by many names. He says so himself in the Bible. No I don't need to expand upon it
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05-07-2024, 07:56 PM
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He goes by many names. He says so himself in the Bible. No I don't need to expand upon it
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05-07-2024, 07:57 PM
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I guess you think English is the one true language too huh
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05-07-2024, 07:59 PM
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No they believe in one true God because that's all there is. You think you speak the word of God. You do not. You are so narrow minded you can't even learn from your own Bible. The story of Babel is a cautionary tale about people like you thinking they speak for God so he devided them.

I came in here to share my experience and you of all people said it didn't happen. Why? Because it didn't happen to you? Well here's the thing about God. He only speaks to those willing to listen. So if he hasnt spoke to you, well then you simply aren't ready
I didn't say it didn't happen - I said more often than not people who think they've had an encounter with 'god' have just met the devil.

I say this with full confidence that even if it was Jesus who you met, you should still just stick to the bible's scriptures and with Jesus as God to avoid being deceived.

Plenty of people have been deceived by satan pretending to be an angel of light and an angel of The Lord - just look at mormonism and mohammedanism.
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05-07-2024, 08:00 PM
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I guess you think English is the one true language too huh
Not really interested in engaging with a satanist
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05-07-2024, 08:03 PM
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Not really interested in engaging with a satanist
You're the exact kind of false believer that God warns against. You do not and never will speak for God buddy. You're hollier than thou attitude will not get you into heaven
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05-07-2024, 08:05 PM
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You're the exact kind of false believer that God warns against. You do not and never will speak for God buddy. You're hollier than thou attitude will not get you into heaven
I'm far from holy, never claimed to be.
I'm a sinner in need of a savior, and that is why I trust and put my faith and devotion upon Jesus Christ.
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05-07-2024, 08:09 PM
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All that proves is that religious superstition is inherent to the human psyche.

Those 40 million people having religious experiences is no more proof the veracity of those experiences, than a schizophrenic’s delusions is proof that he himself is really God.

If anything, your argument is more a proof that supernatural phenomena actually do not exist, given that all 40 million of those people have vastly different experiences which contradict each other.

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I'm far from holy, never claimed to be.
I'm a sinner in need of a savior, and that is why I trust and put my faith and devotion upon Jesus Christ.
I must say that this type of brainless, self-righteous, pat-myself-on-the-back, cookie-cutter, milquetoast sort of religious syntax is obviously not intended to change the minds of anyone you’re communicating with, but is instead simply a way for you to feel (mistakenly) that you are somehow better than everyone else.
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You're the exact kind of false believer that God warns against. You do not and never will speak for God buddy. You're hollier than thou attitude will not get you into heaven
Actually if you reference the bible correctly, you're speaking on behalf of God, since the bible is the Word of God.
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