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post 1701091893 05-14-2024, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Marx did not type his own books.
Dude, just stop.

Lol
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Dude, just stop.

Lol
If you can’t provide sources for you claims..just say si
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Originally Posted By Paul
If you can’t provide sources for you claims..just say si
Marxism = Marx's published works.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Marxism = Marx's published works.
Which is published second hand…hearsay
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Originally Posted By Paul
Which is published second hand…hearsay
Just lol

"Only in community with others has each individual the means of cultivating his gifts in all directions; only in the community, therefore, is personal freedom possible."

-- Marx, 1845

Part I: Feuerbach.
Opposition of the Materialist and Idealist Outlook
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Just lol

"Only in community with others has each individual the means of cultivating his gifts in all directions; only in the community, therefore, is personal freedom possible."

-- Marx, 1845

Part I: Feuerbach.
Opposition of the Materialist and Idealist Outlook
Hearsay
post 1701095053 05-14-2024, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Marxism
Fifty
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If everyone was conscientious and hard working it could work.

Ironically the working classes are the least concientious and care the least about helping their fellow man.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Fifty
Which you can’t give examples of your claims.

Let’s put it this way, I can buy an air conditioning unit that states in the manual that it will decrease the temperature of a certain square footage room to a certain degree over x amount of time. But if that cannot be demonstrated, then it really does not matter what the manufacturer states.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
If everyone was conscientious and hard working it could work.

Ironically the working classes are the least concientious and care the least about helping their fellow man.
How does someone rise above their station under Communism?
post 1701099223 05-14-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
If everyone was conscientious and hard working it could work.

Ironically the working classes are the least concientious and care the least about helping their fellow man.
Nah, even with the best of intentions the calculation problem will still lead to disaster
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post 1701099653 05-14-2024, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Which you can’t give examples of your claims.

Let’s put it this way, I can buy an air conditioning unit that states in the manual that it will decrease the temperature of a certain square footage room to a certain degree over x amount of time. But if that cannot be demonstrated, then it really does not matter what the manufacturer states.
There's a referenced quote above

Air conditioners aren't philosophies
post 1701099873 05-14-2024, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
There's a referenced quote above

Air conditioners aren't philosophies
You did not provide an example above.

Marx was full of hot air, could’ve use an AC clearly.
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All of those who fantasize about Communism, they always picture themselves as the one on top, running things, they don't picture themselves tolling away in a factory, and living in a one bedroom project like apartment complex, or waiting to collect enough points for the government to give them a car......
post 1701100613 05-14-2024, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
You did not provide an example above.

Marx was full of hot air, could’ve use an AC clearly.
You quoted it
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Just lol

"Only in community with others has each individual the means of cultivating his gifts in all directions; only in the community, therefore, is personal freedom possible."

-- Marx, 1845

Part I: Feuerbach.
Opposition of the Materialist and Idealist Outlook
post 1701100633 05-14-2024, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
All of those who fantasize about Communism, they always picture themselves as the one on top, running things, they don't picture themselves tolling away in a factory, and living in a one bedroom project like apartment complex, or waiting to collect enough points for the government to give them a car......
There wouldn't be anyone on top. Are you thinking of capitalism?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
There wouldn't be anyone on top. Are you thinking of capitalism?
Yep just like how cops are just public servants.

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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Yep just like how cops are just public servants.

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For argument's sake lets say communism/socialism would work fine. There is the thing, the same mutherfkrs that manipulate the current system would just manipulate that system. If fact it seems like those systems are easier to corrupt and manipulate.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Which is published second hand…hearsay
Commies when it comes to the bible: "that was all published second hand...heresay, which means it's total bullchit"

Commies when it comes to marxism: "well actually that's (D)ifferent because I really like what it has to say"
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
For argument's sake lets say communism/socialism would work fine. There is the thing, the same mutherfkrs that manipulate the current system would just manipulate that system. If fact it seems like those systems are easier to corrupt and manipulate.
Of course it's easier to corrupt because all of the power and influence is concentrated in big government. What on earth is more corrupted than big governments?
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Commies when it comes to the bible: "that was all published second hand...heresay, which means it's total bullchit"

Commies when it comes to marxism: "well actually that's (D)ifferent because I really like what it has to say"
Marx was a real person who published his work.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Marx was a real person who published his work.
The bible was written by real people, and the religion claims god is real. Same thing really. If you can believe in marxism you should also believe in religion.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
The bible was written by real people, and the religion claims god is real. Same thing really. If you can believe in marxism you should also believe in religion.
Have any photos of dem dere apostles? Would you argue that the the bible doesn't represent Christianity because it's hearsay?



Regardless, Marxism is Marx's published works. Individual liberty is foundational in those works.

This fact is evidenced by the referenced quote above from 1845.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Have any photos of dem dere apostles? Would you argue that the the bible doesn't represent Christianity because it's hearsay?



Regardless, Marxism is Marx's published works. Individual liberty is foundational in those works.

This fact is evidenced by the referenced quote above from 1845.
Lol @ demanding photographs for things that happened 2,000 years ago
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Lol @ demanding photographs for things that happened 2,000 years ago
Not really the point

But, there are photos of Marx and proof he published his work. The work that is Marxism.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
There wouldn't be anyone on top. Are you thinking of capitalism?
There wouldn't be anyone on top, in charge of anything?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Not really the point

But, there are photos of Marx and proof he published his work. The work that is Marxism.
Okay?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
There wouldn't be anyone on top, in charge of anything?
It's hilarious how they think humans could be completely selfless and nations could exist without any threat or worry without any form of leadership or anything. Commies are basically wanting to live in a fantasy land and think it's actually realistic because some old dead guy apparently wrote some chit.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
It's hilarious how they think humans could be completely selfless and nations could exist without any threat or worry without any form of leadership or anything. Commies are basically wanting to live in a fantasy land and think it's actually realistic because some old dead guy apparently wrote some chit.
Did they ever read anything about the guy? He was a true piece of ****.

He was a father who didn't provide for his wife and children who nearly starved and lived in hideous poverty.

Damn!!!! Just like Bernie Sanders.
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