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12-27-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
You are making no sense, Russia failed to seize Kiev at the start of the war, and lost thousands of men. Nothing to do with the US. Artillery wasn't an issue until months into the war once front lines were established, and by this time Ukraine was getting weapons into the Country.Anytime someone asks you a straight for a question, you start squealing like a pig
It has been explained a 1000 times but you refuse to acknowledge it.
This is funny , you're asking why Ukraine has higher KIAs and yet at the same time you are saying that they really didn't get much US equipment until months after the initial invasion. You answered your own question.
Ukraine didn't have much US equipment until after the invasion hence the reason why they have suffered massive man power losses earlier on and lost 20% of the country. With US intelligence and NATO restructuring and an underrmanned Russian military they were able to hold the line and push back.

It has been explained a 1000 times but you refuse to acknowledge it.
This is funny , you're asking why Ukraine has higher KIAs and yet at the same time you are saying that they really didn't get much US equipment until months after the initial invasion. You answered your own question.
Ukraine didn't have much US equipment until after the invasion hence the reason why they have suffered massive man power losses earlier on and lost 20% of the country. With US intelligence and NATO restructuring and an underrmanned Russian military they were able to hold the line and push back.
How many men do you think Russia has in Ukraine right now, counting every single one that is fighting for Russia?
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
****ing lolYou have never met a Ukranian woman obviously. Tens of thousands will come back, if for no other reason than to take care of their babushka's. Do you know how much opportunity awaits hungry Ukrainians to rebuild their Country once this war is over? Do you know how much drive they have to be successful in places like the UK and America? When they realize they can move back to their home Country AND make the same amount of money as out of Country, they will come back in droves. Ukraine will catapult to being a first world Country strictly on the opportunities that await rebuilding it infrastructure wise, and the strength of their military if still intact after this war.
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This is more comical than the ghost of Koiv shooting down 362 fighter jets over three months
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12-27-2022, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos⏩
This guy has lost his mind.****ing lol
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This is more comical than the ghost of Koiv shooting down 362 fighter jets over three months
Ucroine is not Israel son
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This is more comical than the ghost of Koiv shooting down 362 fighter jets over three months
Ucroine is not Israel son
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Kinda off-topic, and don't want to distract from the chalupa meltdown, it's always a good laugh to see
But things are heating up in Serbia/Kosovo…we might need to make a new thread dedicated to that conflict soon…ayyLMAO
[QUOTE=****inator post_id=1673615313]OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO VATNIK BROS!!!
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/8c34TqC9/afbeelding.png[IMG][/QUOTE]Fuark its over vatnik bros
[QUOTE=exxtracool post_id=1673615893]Nothing is gonna happen. They put their troops on alert at the kosovo border, a border which they dont apparently recognize… this whole chain of events started because ethnic serbs in the north of kosovo did not want to use kosovo license plates on their cars and that pissed off the ethnic albanians in kosovo.
And the idiots are putting up road blocks with trucks and other dumb things. The albanians in kosovo are not doing anything to oppress the serbs in any way, serb villagers are just being serb villagers.
Nato is still in kosovo btw and albania is a nato country. Albania today also has pretty decent relations diplomatically with serbia, so im hoping no really stupid things are done.[/QUOTE]Hopefully, haven't kept up too much on the situation. Just been seeing a lot of stuff in the news/social media/********s…hopefully it's just posturing and nothing too serious, they all calm down and go on with life.
But things are heating up in Serbia/Kosovo…we might need to make a new thread dedicated to that conflict soon…ayyLMAO
[QUOTE=****inator post_id=1673615313]OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO VATNIK BROS!!!
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/8c34TqC9/afbeelding.png[IMG][/QUOTE]Fuark its over vatnik bros
[QUOTE=exxtracool post_id=1673615893]Nothing is gonna happen. They put their troops on alert at the kosovo border, a border which they dont apparently recognize… this whole chain of events started because ethnic serbs in the north of kosovo did not want to use kosovo license plates on their cars and that pissed off the ethnic albanians in kosovo.
And the idiots are putting up road blocks with trucks and other dumb things. The albanians in kosovo are not doing anything to oppress the serbs in any way, serb villagers are just being serb villagers.
Nato is still in kosovo btw and albania is a nato country. Albania today also has pretty decent relations diplomatically with serbia, so im hoping no really stupid things are done.[/QUOTE]Hopefully, haven't kept up too much on the situation. Just been seeing a lot of stuff in the news/social media/********s…hopefully it's just posturing and nothing too serious, they all calm down and go on with life.
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12-27-2022, 10:33 AM
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO VATNIK BROS!!!


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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Repped for being a retard that brings us amusement and cope posts 24/7.He has literally sent the Ukraine back 30 years. Cities are destroyed and even worse he let all the women and children move to Western Europe.
Do you think a Ukranian woman will leave the UK or Germany to live in a war torn country with no heating, electricity and has been smashed to pieces. They're not coming back.
So not only will Ukraine lose hundreds of thousands of their best men. They will lose millions of their young women.
All of this is to resist Russia, but I can assure you Russia wont lose. They will annex all of the territories they want. So the loss was for absolutely nothing
Do you think a Ukranian woman will leave the UK or Germany to live in a war torn country with no heating, electricity and has been smashed to pieces. They're not coming back.
So not only will Ukraine lose hundreds of thousands of their best men. They will lose millions of their young women.
All of this is to resist Russia, but I can assure you Russia wont lose. They will annex all of the territories they want. So the loss was for absolutely nothing
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So uhh how desperate are we talking here regarding these Ukrainian girls?


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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Nothing is gonna happen. They put their troops on alert at the kosovo border, a border which they dont apparently recognize… this whole chain of events started because ethnic serbs in the north of kosovo did not want to use kosovo license plates on their cars and that pissed off the ethnic albanians in kosovo.Kinda off-topic, and don't want to distract from the chalupa meltdown, it's always a good laugh to see
But things are heating up in Serbia/Kosovo…we might need to make a new thread dedicated to that conflict soon…ayyLMAO
Fuark its over vatnik bros
But things are heating up in Serbia/Kosovo…we might need to make a new thread dedicated to that conflict soon…ayyLMAO
Fuark its over vatnik bros
And the idiots are putting up road blocks with trucks and other dumb things. The albanians in kosovo are not doing anything to oppress the serbs in any way, serb villagers are just being serb villagers.
Nato is still in kosovo btw and albania is a nato country. Albania today also has pretty decent relations diplomatically with serbia, so im hoping no really stupid things are done.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Must have had the Ghost of Kiev flying air cover, Miss Sniper giving long range support, and the old farmer riding on top with his shotgun.OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO VATNIK BROS!!!


Amazing how much the retard accepts everything as truth.
12-27-2022, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
There are multiple videos of Ukranian tank/tanks engaging 4-8 Russian tanks/vehicles. U mad?Must have had the Ghost of Kiev flying air cover, Miss Sniper giving long range support, and the old farmer riding on top with his shotgun.
Amazing how much the retard accepts everything as truth.
Amazing how much the retard accepts everything as truth.
balls of fukkin steel boyo.
12-27-2022, 11:00 AM
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Ukraine is spending significantly more money on countering the threat from Shahed-136′ kamikaze’ drones fired at its cities than Russia spends on acquiring and launching these Iranian-made drones.
Iranian-made drones have built a reputation for themselves in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. While these drones are not as technologically sophisticated as US, Israeli, Chinese, or even some Russian-made drones, Moscow effectively employs them to destroy Ukrainian positions.
Iranian armed forces are known to operate more armed drones than many other nations that have twice their defense budget, and that too under crippling Western sanctions.
This shows the importance of drones for Iran’s military planners, and the ongoing war in Ukraine is a testament to why that is the case.
As EurAsian Times discussed earlier, the war in the air domain was not as much about air superiority for Ukraine as it was about denying airspace to Russian combat aviation assets by using an array of air defense systems.
Ukraine fielded medium and long-range air defenses, like the S-300s and Buk-M1s, which forced the Russian fighter jets to fly at altitudes below 4500 meters, right into the range of the man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) that have accounted for a significant number of shoot-downs of Russian aircraft.
Ukraine’s air denial strategy worked for a while, but then the Russian military adapted to the circumstances and began employing kamikaze drones like Iranian-made Shahed-136 in large numbers that overwhelmed Ukraine’s air defenses.
The Russian forces began swarm attacks using multiple Shahed-136 kamikaze drones at once, in batches of five and more, to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses. Russian forces reportedly used 12 drones for a single swarm attack in one instance.
As per some reports, the Russian forces have also been launching the kamikaze drones in pairs, with one flying above the other, either as a backup if the lower one is shot down, or if the lower drone is successful, the second one can be directed toward a different target.
Iranian-made drones have built a reputation for themselves in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. While these drones are not as technologically sophisticated as US, Israeli, Chinese, or even some Russian-made drones, Moscow effectively employs them to destroy Ukrainian positions.
Iranian armed forces are known to operate more armed drones than many other nations that have twice their defense budget, and that too under crippling Western sanctions.
This shows the importance of drones for Iran’s military planners, and the ongoing war in Ukraine is a testament to why that is the case.
As EurAsian Times discussed earlier, the war in the air domain was not as much about air superiority for Ukraine as it was about denying airspace to Russian combat aviation assets by using an array of air defense systems.
Ukraine fielded medium and long-range air defenses, like the S-300s and Buk-M1s, which forced the Russian fighter jets to fly at altitudes below 4500 meters, right into the range of the man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) that have accounted for a significant number of shoot-downs of Russian aircraft.
Ukraine’s air denial strategy worked for a while, but then the Russian military adapted to the circumstances and began employing kamikaze drones like Iranian-made Shahed-136 in large numbers that overwhelmed Ukraine’s air defenses.
The Russian forces began swarm attacks using multiple Shahed-136 kamikaze drones at once, in batches of five and more, to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses. Russian forces reportedly used 12 drones for a single swarm attack in one instance.
As per some reports, the Russian forces have also been launching the kamikaze drones in pairs, with one flying above the other, either as a backup if the lower one is shot down, or if the lower drone is successful, the second one can be directed toward a different target.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Very much enjoyable to see you make-up numbers.How many men did Ukraine lose when Russia captured 20% of the country?
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500K.
200k plus 200k mobilized plus 100k Militia, Wagner amd Chechens.
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500K.
200k plus 200k mobilized plus 100k Militia, Wagner amd Chechens.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Neither side gives any real figures on this for obvious reasons, and guard that info again for obvious reasons, so it’s pointless to speculate.How many men did Ukraine lose when Russia captured 20% of the country?
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500K.
200k plus 200k mobilized plus 100k Militia, Wagner amd Chechens.
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500K.
200k plus 200k mobilized plus 100k Militia, Wagner amd Chechens.
Best thing we’ve got is western intel and the US which has been continuously gathering info on the battlefields estimates 100k loses for both the russians and ukrainians.
As to what percentage of that was here and there… impossible to know unless you work for the US military and get briefed or whatever they call it lol.
12-27-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
500k in such a small theatre seems pretty off to me to say the least, but i guess its possible. Idk.Very much enjoyable to see you make-up numbers.
They certainly dont seem to be putting those troops to work though if they are there lmao…
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Balls of steel you can only dream about hiding at home.There are multiple videos of Ukranian tank/tanks engaging 4-8 Russian tanks/vehicles. U mad?
balls of fukkin steel boyo.
balls of fukkin steel boyo.
But I don't see the 10-1 kills that little ****ger boy was stroking his bean to. Looks like artillery did most of the work. The low IQ retards at home need a hero to cheer on so with a little creative journalism the retard crew is frothing at the mouth.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel⏩
Probably desperate enough to marry you for a green card and then divorce you a couple years later, unless you go full cuck like chalupSo uhh how desperate are we talking here regarding these Ukrainian girls?


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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Do you understand the cost of s single stinger? Also Russia committed 1/5 of their force and are now committing twice that.Nah man i dont think some manpads could prevent them from achieving aerial supremacy. That doesnt really make sense. By this logic why werent the iraqis able to stop the bombers/fighters considering that they had much much more sams than ukraine. Surely sams are more effective than stingers bro.
And ya youre not wrong it did almost work. They got pretty close to kyiv. Again not sure why they didnt have infantry support for their tanks and other vehicles though, the ukrainians were able to blunt their advance with handhelds.
I remember asking some us army (actual us army not stolen valour like the retard here who keeps ragging on chalups wife), and he said the the us army would never go in like that without infantry support.
And ya youre not wrong it did almost work. They got pretty close to kyiv. Again not sure why they didnt have infantry support for their tanks and other vehicles though, the ukrainians were able to blunt their advance with handhelds.
I remember asking some us army (actual us army not stolen valour like the retard here who keeps ragging on chalups wife), and he said the the us army would never go in like that without infantry support.
The Keiv thing made no sense unless you step back. The accumulation of the force was never prepared in number or equipment to attack. Putin also got spanked for pushing conscripts to the area.
Call it whatever. It was strange how it developed but there was a deeper strategy. And no matter what it was, it pinned 100k combat troops to the area while LPR/DPR and limited numbers of VDV attacked other places in the south and east.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
They have about 80k volunteers as well which is why I estimate 600k. They were an entirely different mobilization pool that started ahead of mobilization.It's a rough estimate based off of all known facts.
200K was the intial Russian force. 300k mobilized, but only around 180-200K in theater, the rest training. 50k militia as stated pre-Feb 2022. Wagner pre-war was a very rough estimate of 8k. Russia does insert SF into Wagner so that number can fluctate, plus new recruits during the SMO. Wagner takes heavy losses so replenishment is constant. Chechens are probably 20K.
500K is a rough estimate. US satellites can track large troop movements and persons with US intel sourves have stated that number to be reasonable.
Not sure why making these deductions are so hard....
200K was the intial Russian force. 300k mobilized, but only around 180-200K in theater, the rest training. 50k militia as stated pre-Feb 2022. Wagner pre-war was a very rough estimate of 8k. Russia does insert SF into Wagner so that number can fluctate, plus new recruits during the SMO. Wagner takes heavy losses so replenishment is constant. Chechens are probably 20K.
500K is a rough estimate. US satellites can track large troop movements and persons with US intel sourves have stated that number to be reasonable.
Not sure why making these deductions are so hard....
ISW tracked it pretty well. They stopped after 30k or so.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
It isnt milleys 100k lol, he didnt come up with the figure himself.Pointless to speculate how many troops are in Ukraine but you repeat Milley's 100K without question. Seems you cherry pick.
Also, US intelligence can give a rough estimate of troop sizes and movements because it was US intelligence that told Ukraine to attack certain regions where they knew the Russians were undermanned.
And btw, Ukraine is not a small theater.
Also, US intelligence can give a rough estimate of troop sizes and movements because it was US intelligence that told Ukraine to attack certain regions where they knew the Russians were undermanned.
And btw, Ukraine is not a small theater.
Has the Us or Uk given estimates on number of rus troops inside ukraine? If so ill probably lean towards believing it.
And yes, ukraine is a small theatre. There are only a few fronts open and heavy fighting has only been happening in a few spots from what i can tell.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
8 months agoThere are multiple videos of Ukranian tank/tanks engaging 4-8 Russian tanks/vehicles. U mad?
balls of fukkin steel boyo.
balls of fukkin steel boyo.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
You believe the UK intel releases?It isnt milleys 100k lol, he didnt come up with the figure himself.
Has the Us or Uk given estimates on number of rus troops inside ukraine? If so ill probably lean towards believing it.
And yes, ukraine is a small theatre. There are only a few fronts open and heavy fighting has only been happening in a few spots from what i can tell.
Has the Us or Uk given estimates on number of rus troops inside ukraine? If so ill probably lean towards believing it.
And yes, ukraine is a small theatre. There are only a few fronts open and heavy fighting has only been happening in a few spots from what i can tell.
They contradict all other western releases.
Don't do that. They source open postings from the Ukrainian MOD. I don't trust either MOD.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Unaware. Youre saying they just copypaste ukr mod’s figures? Not saying youre wrong but that doesnt sounds correct.You believe the UK intel releases?
They contradict all other western releases.
Don't do that. They source open postings from the Ukrainian MOD. I don't trust either MOD.
They contradict all other western releases.
Don't do that. They source open postings from the Ukrainian MOD. I don't trust either MOD.
But ya i wouldnt believe anything published by either ukraine or russia.
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https://english.nv.ua/nation/smuggle...-50293071.html

Ukrainian border guards and customs officers have intercepted an attempt to smuggle a Ka-26 helicopter across the Hungarian border, the State Border Guard Service said in a message on its website on Dec. 23.
The aircraft was transported in a truck with Ukrainian registration and was detained at a checkpoint in Tisza, Zakarpattia.
The unusual cargo prompted a thorough inspection of the entire vehicle, according to the message.
“During the inspection, the border patrol – together with an employee of the State Customs Service of Ukraine – discovered that the documents used to transport the helicopter contained false information regarding its manufacturer,” the report says.
Ukraine’s Fiscal Service subsequently confirmed the discrepancies in the export permits, spurring customs officers to seize the helicopter. Ka-26 has an estimated value of at least $25,000.

Not sure if real or fake, lol just lol
But yall remember that interview posted ITT with the American mercenary who said that he would see straight up trucks disappearing from convoys that were filled with ammunition, weapons. And if you asked questions, you were told to mind your business...

Ukrainian border guards and customs officers have intercepted an attempt to smuggle a Ka-26 helicopter across the Hungarian border, the State Border Guard Service said in a message on its website on Dec. 23.
The aircraft was transported in a truck with Ukrainian registration and was detained at a checkpoint in Tisza, Zakarpattia.
The unusual cargo prompted a thorough inspection of the entire vehicle, according to the message.
“During the inspection, the border patrol – together with an employee of the State Customs Service of Ukraine – discovered that the documents used to transport the helicopter contained false information regarding its manufacturer,” the report says.
Ukraine’s Fiscal Service subsequently confirmed the discrepancies in the export permits, spurring customs officers to seize the helicopter. Ka-26 has an estimated value of at least $25,000.

Not sure if real or fake, lol just lol
But yall remember that interview posted ITT with the American mercenary who said that he would see straight up trucks disappearing from convoys that were filled with ammunition, weapons. And if you asked questions, you were told to mind your business...
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
You can't be this stupid?OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO VATNIK BROS!!!


What's with people in this thread? Do they genuinely not believe that propaganda is a thing? Like are we just going to be this retarded 10+ months into this conflict?
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