Anyone have experience buying from ashford.com??

i think so long as you use the inverted marker as your start timer you can figure it out. the added indexing on the bezel would have been more useful perhaps, but would have thrown off the balance to someone else. i dont see an issue with it from a performance standpoint, especially since in reality not many people use traditional diving watches to dive anymore with the availability of dive computers, and digital divers like the frogman, etc.

i purchased a hamilton chronograph from there. the customer service was really good. the one i got had dust inside the watch, and i called them about it, i sent it back and about a week later a brand new one arrived. they may be a gray market retailer for more expensive brands, i would look into that if you are considering something which may be in question.

It's about as big as I would go and I have about 7.5" wrist. I like it and don't mind the case shape that much personally BUT it's still not amazingly comfortable at the moment, I think it's the strap that just is a little stiff and thus is making it sit different to how I would like. I'll continue wearing it every other day and see if it gets better, this is also my first leather strap and deployment clasp so perhaps I'm expecting something that doesnt exist.

Poverty Collection

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Down to $560 on the Orient.

I'm actually wanting to buy a Hamilton khaki auto pilot from there. it's discounted pretty nicely

are those AP's fake?

i feel like mine always sits too far to the 12 oclock side no matter what i do, i did however recently order a sterile jubilee bracelet to wear with it, which im hoping will solve the issue, cause the oyster doesnt sit right, and i dont like it on a regular strap cause the lugs are spaced away from the case and theres a noticable gap when wearing like this. bit of a nitpick but i just irks me.

would buy it there. i thought recently abnout the hamilton khaki navy or something. basically a white dial with small seconds in 40mm with wire lugs. i went at looked at it at a AD but they wanted 1100 when it was only like 640 on ashford, i didnt end up getting it but that just shows that they offer a pretty consitant 40% discount vs ad

ohh yea grabbed a chocolate brown perlon finally!

looks like my brothers collection

nice stuff bro!

if they are I overpaid by about 100gs

Thanks brah, it's always changing

F*ck the watches, where did you get that anti-gravity paper? It's unreal, looks like it was photoshopped into real life!

This video is pretty bang on about low end watches lol.

saw Archie Luxury already knew what video was about

brb if its under 5k dont waste your time/money

looks like mine, maybe missing a patek or two tho

actually just under $1500. and tbh he's perfectly right, i mean personally i wouldnt have anything against someone buying a cheap $200 watch like a seiko if they really cant afford anything else.

but the idea of having one good watch instead of a bunch of **** ones? i completely agree.

but isnt there a guy a page back complaining how he has to get his $800 watch serviced again? and a guy complaining about the cheap grade of titanium the new steinhart is made of?

archie is just saying what the people who arent prepared or dont have the means to buy a proper watch dont want to hear.

well the debate was actually that steinhart uses a more expensive grade of titanium (grade 5), but thats neither here nor there. i agree its better to have a consolidated collection of a few really good pieces, but theres guys who literally wear a timex everyday or a gshock and love it, who is anyone else to tell them they have a piece of **** watch, if they like it then hey what ever thats their deal, its one thing to bash a replica (direct knock off), and maybe a homage if you are trying to pass it off as the real deal, but is there really a 5000 dollar difference in quality between say an omega seamaster (300m master co axial, retails at 6600 bucks) and a squale 1000 ft diver (not the sub clone, but one of squales own watches). is the finish $5000 dollars better? obvi the cosc movement is measurably better, so maybe thats an exta 1000 dollars? personally i like the omega, (and own a bond smp), but if you took all of the logos off of the watches and examined them would you really be able to notice a difference worthy of 5000 extra dollars between the two? probably not. now thats not too say you should get the more expensive watch if you like it and can afford it, that your personal choice, and i would get the seamaster cause of the prestige and the heritage, but i wouldnt knock someone else for choosing the squale.

I agree with alot of what archie says in some of his videos, and i think that if you are buying a watch based on what you want other people to think he gives great advice. i also dont think he gives horrible advice on buying investment pieces. But its hard to take him seriously when he has admitted that he financed most of his watches to get them. now i could be presumtuous in thinking that he did this because he couldnt buy them outright, and maybe he could and he just got a 0% interest loan or something, but i doubt that.

idk just my opinion. i love watches and i will purchase a sub in the coming year or two, as well as other pieces, however, i think it would be foolish to finance something as insignificant as a watch, because at that point you need to be honest with yourself, and realize that youa re financing the idea that people will think you have alot of money.

I guess what gets me is that he doesnt have any kind of factual reasoning for why these watches are "dog****" other than they dont cost a certain amount or retain their value as well as others.

and as for the guy needing to get his 800 dollar watch serviced, i semi rememebr soemthing liek that but you need to get all watches services so that kind of a moot point. in actuallity the cost of ownership is still far less than a prestigeous piece which still requires servicing despite a grand price of entry, and a the servicing usually cost alot more for basically the same work.

Archie was pushing that Submariners are passe dog**** a few years ago , then he goes and buys one and goes full circle to how it's the ultimate sportswatch. I would take what he says with a pinch of salt.

"If it doesn't hurt, it's not worth buying" - Archie Luxury. Financially crippled and unemployed lol

its nothing compared to a few real collections ive seen. Its just watches i like and hold their value very well so i could flip and get 90% of my $$ back easy. There are only a handfull of brands that actually hold value so buying smart is key. Lots of "ballers" trade in/up and keep their collection rolling without much new $$ invested.

if you ever watch talking watches (hodinkee series on youtube) there are some guys with outrageous collections. always mire so hard when they have like 30 pateks

the omega 300m has got an in house movement and the finishing would be considerably better, but theres also an upping in price because of brand/status alone.

A lot of good points, i also dont agree with everything archie does/says. in a way his financial decisions are basically comical, unfortunate for him but his videos have been exactly like a parody of how to manage your money.

when youre making a reasonable purchase his advice about which watches are good is valuable though.

he did make a few solid points about why theyre not good watches though. using fake screws, tag working with seiko to make movements for less money because they dont actually give a chit about horology. i think the all in all problem with those sort of watches is that they're not really affordable but theyre not luxury either, theyre just in an awkward place in the middle where it costs you a sizeable amount out of pocket, but you dont really get the craftsmanship, the finishing, the heritage, the prestige etc of a real luxury watch. unless you genuinely love the watch i think it is a waste of money, and i would bet there have been many miscers and others in the past who bought these watches trying to gain the previous terms but didnt.

about the 800 dollar watch guy. im pretty sure something in the mid range luxury like an omega would probably cost the same to service?

Service price might be roughly the same but it's not going to need it every 11 months.

Isnt servicing on a rolex or omega meant to be 3-5 years? The omega co-axials require even less servicing.

Archie is pretty much right on this front imo, except for a few people these under $1500 purchases are a bad buy.

Rolex I believe is recommended every 10 years.

Not everyone can afford $1500 for a timepiece though brah. Granted there are better purchases than others in the sub $1500 range but lettuce be real, for that money noone is expecting the qualities that the more expensive brands posses.

If they cant I would recommend they just stick to buying a couple of $200 pieces and leave it at that. Find another hobby that they can afford.

But tbh I think most people can afford one that expensive if they want it enough. It just comes down to if they seriously like watches or have other more important hobbies.

If someone would get more satisfaction and enjoyment from a $500 piece they really want, I would advise them to buy that one. There are always going to be options that others find more appealing but it comes back round to buying for yourself. After all isn't this entire hobby based around emotions and how you enjoy owning the watch. Some people get the same level of enjoyment out of a Michael Kors watch that we do higher end brands.

Just to add to this, to give an example.

There are people over on WatchUSeek who follow Steinhart religiously and their collection may consist of 10 different Steinhart watches, they write page long reviews about each watch, take countless photos of which theyre wearing each day and spend hours discussing different pieces. They have a srs passion for these low-mid range watches.

In this type of persons case, 10 Steinhart Vs 1 Rolex? Which would they enjoy more and which would you say encompasses the traits of a person with the hobby?

I think in general there's no right or wrong answer and it's an interesting topic for sure!

NICE ONE ARCHIE

this is a quality post. Agreed.

Tempted…I'm new to watches and this may be the right entry point for me. My Seiko SNAF09 and a Bulova Precisionist are the only two watches I own that I enjoy wearing/look decent for the low price points.