It will happen eventually but it still wont' change anything. Alex was better off leaving and going with a coach like Andy Reid vs sticking around here as a backup. It was a tough situation with Alex getting us to the NFC Championship in 2011 but not having a great game vs the Giants and Kap being a play away from winning the SB next year with the defense actually being the weak link.

I don't know many GMs/coaches who wouldn't think that Kaepernick would keep improving after having such early success. Obviously the guy let the success get to his head and didn't think he needed to work on important things to improve his game and the rest of the league caught up to him.

But trading Alex Smith made sense at the time but does look really stupid now. Then again Alex isn't the same player with the 49ers much like Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be the player he is today if he was drafted by the niners back when.

Louis Riddick to be interviewed for GM? Who's this dude?

Just heard in DC that the Skins off coordinator( grandson of former gm) is being interviewed as possible head coach.

What kind of logic is this?

Yeah, we have holes everywhere, but the most glaring hole is QB. You say you don't want to be the Rams…you mean the Rams that drafted an absolute monster in Aaron Donald, and yet he can't do anything to make them a legitimate contender.

I'd rather be the Colts with a legit QB and a mess of a roster elsewhere.

Drafting a QB with that 2nd pick is asking him to fail. I'm sorry I don't agree with some of you. Draft some guys who can make an immediate impact on the O-line and at Linebacker and then take some chances of QBs on the mid-late rounds

Winston drafted 1st overall
Mariota drafted 2nd overall
Luck drafted 1st overall
Cam drafted 1st overall
Stafford drafted 1st overall
Ryan drafted 3rd overall
Eli drafted 1st overall
Rivers drafted 3rd overall

I was just referring to this team, not those guys. Those teams had other things in place

No, they didn't. That's why they were drafting that high.

Don't forget we have a chit ton of cap space. We also don't have to throw our QB out there right away just because he was drafted #2 overall. Sure fans are excited and want to see him play but if the team thinks he's better off sitting and learning the pro system and working on other things without game action yet then it's for the best.

You draft a kid like Trubisky at #2 now and give him time with the coaches, practice field and preseason and let him sit and learn the playbook, work on perfecting his mechanics, etc and in 2018 then you throw him out there.

Plus honestly our offense isn't THAT terrible. Our receivers can definitely use help but don't forget we got hit with a rash of injuries at the position. Our OL isn't terrible though it can get better inside. Hyde if healthy is a legit starter. The receivers when healthy are at least serviceable and no doubt we'll address the position in FA and the draft.

Bringing a rookie QB into this roster is not asking him to fail…but I would rather we use the 1st round pick on defense and swing an Alex Smith like trade for Garoppolo but I would be pretty pissed if we gave up the first rounder for him.

Former front office guy with the Eagles, now works for ESPN. I've heard good things about him and the connection to Josh McDaniels excites me because he'd be my favorite hire right now.

However if I'm having my pick of GMs I'd take Ron Wolf's kid or Nick Caserio from the Pats.

Nope

I think that's a tough sell. Some of those teams were better off like the Colts but other teams were pretty lacking in talent.

As I said above this isn't an awful situation.

Staley and Brown are a pretty good pair of OTs
Garnett should be a pretty good guard and Beadles and Kilgore are not awful but can be improved upon.
Injuries to WRs and TEs didn't help things.

QB is really the worst part of our offense when healthy.

The defense can certainly use some help but injuries played a large part on why we were historically bad but either way the defense doesn't get the QB killed.

The longer we wait to address QB the longer we go without a legit QB. Don't forget if we wait til next year we have no idea where we'll be picking. Not to mention so many guys these days are spread offense QBs so they'll need more time after being drafted next year…which means we may not see the til 2019.

If we're going to have a new HC and a new GM, why not pair them with a new QB? Especially if our HC is an offensive guy.

And then they can all be accountable together. Nobody saying the GM didn't pick that HC or that QB. Nobody saying the QB kept going through different OC's.

McDaniels/Garoppolo hnnng

Bottom line it takes the entire thing to become a successful franchise from the top down. We are missing so many pieces that getting a QB in the first will amount to nothing but ruining that kids career. We are the new Browns.

We need to build up the defense again, concentrate on either drafting or fixing the OL and then worry about a franchise QB. 8-8 isn't going to cut it in this division and I don't want us to be Seattle and Arizonas bitch for the next 10 years.

Obviously you need more than just a good QB, but you're missing the point. You can make all the excuses you want, but those teams were all terrible before they took their QB's and soon after they became competent. QB's make much more of an impact than DeForest Buckner does.

I'm still very much against trading #2 for Jimmy BUT if McDaniels comes here if he trades for Jimmy then I'd feel a lot more comfortable if another HC did given the system/knowledge of the kid.

At the end of the day I hope an Alex Smith like trade is what it takes to get him.

I saw someone on the webzone post up this offseason/mock which to me would be amazing. It basically had us trading down with the Jets(based on the reports that they love Trubisky) while picking up their 2nd round pick.

He had us grabbing Mike Williams, Takk McKinley, using the Jets 2nd rounder for Jimmy then grabbing Anthony Walker Jr at ILB and Ryan Switzer at slot among others. This was also with the prediction that McDaniels and Caserio would be the HC/GM combo.

Now I may prefer slightly different players although I'm a big fan of all those guys but if we can't get Garrett & Garoppolo a scenario like that would be amazing.

Get our QB, get a stud #1 WR and a perfect fit at slot for Pats system and improve pass rush and ILB. Add some free agent moves and this team can turn around fairly quickly.

Of course predicting trades is always tough and this may be one example of hoping for something because it makes the mock sexier but if we can get Jimmy with a 2nd round pick that would be terrific. If we could get him with a 2nd round pick we aquire from another team that would be even better.

These guys are at the top of my FA wish list right now.

Would love to get any of them

Dontari Poe - him between Armstead and Buckner imo gives us a monster front 3 and makes things easier for everyone behind them.
Kevin Zeitler - very good guard can help turn our interior OL into a strength
Zach Brown - very solid and still young ILB
AJ Bouye - up and coming corner who could help the secondary but may not need elite corner money yet
Michael Bennett - even more so if we can trade for Garoppolo or get McDaniels as our HC

Yeah sorry my connection was acting strange. I didn't mean to have a one word response.

I do agree that we need a QB, but I'm convinced that we can get one in the middle rounds and not with that top pick. I think first priority is securing some folks to run this team so that we can have at least a remote shot at landing a free agent or two with the money we have. I just keep having flashbacks of how Alex Smith's career was nearly ruined because everything around him was garbage.

Ya that trade would never happen. He'll be much more sought after than Alex. Not to mention Belicheck could just keep him with Brady up there in age.

That's certainly the leverage the Pats have but how good is that leverage when you break it all down?

They activated Jacoby Brisset off IR a few weeks ago just so he could legally practice with the team. That tells me they're expecting to move Jimmy and get Jacoby as much reps as #3 as possible.
Tom Brady is coming off arguably his best season - 28/2 in 12 games is crazy especially when you consider his age.
Do they keep Jimmy, get no draft compensation and then have to pay him starter money in case Brady starts to decline next season? Their salary cap and history says that won't happen.

Do they trade Tom Brady? Once again his results and history speak for themselves. Pats have been known to sell high but this is Tom Brady. Joe Montana was traded away more because of his injuries not because of his age and Steve Young.

How do you trade away the best player in the game when he's playing as good as ever? Just because most people hit a wall doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. Brady is smart and doesn't take too many hits because he gets the ball out so quick. He also has a ridiculous diet which could have him playing for another 5 years(honestly is anyone else going to an extreme diet like this?)

Alex Smith certainly had his flaws early in his career and we know those flaws very well but he still had a long track record of playing in the NFL and in different systems. He was clearly playing some of his best football when he was benched and he had a very team friendly and bargain for a starting QB contract.

Jimmy will not only cost draft compensation but he will require a huge contract extension and while we have plenty of cap space it doesn't mean huge QB contracts are not without risks especially when Jimmy has only 1.5 worth of starts to show and playing in one system which has been shown to be favorable for QBs.

There are no sure things in this draft in terms of QBs and certainly Jimmy is more proven in the NFL than any of them even with 1.5 games worth of starts and learning behind Brady and Belichick is something that shouldn't be taken for granted…BUT

We have seen it before. Matt Cassel, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, Rohan Davey(I remember Pats fans thinking they'd get a first rounder for him)

Which of those guys would be worth a huge contract and a top 2 draft pick? Now Jimmy is obviously different but the track record is a red flag and should not be ignored when/if the Pats are bold enough to ask for the 1st rounder.

At MOST I'd offer our 2nd rounder this year and then make it a conditional 2nd round next year which can go up to 1st rounder if we make the Divisional round of the playoffs.

I've heard whispers of Belicheck retiring when Brady does. Not sure how true that is but if it were, he'd definitely trade Jimmy G for assets.

My top 3 coaches in order of want:

Mcdaniels - learned from the best. Already has a stint as HC so he can learn from his mistakes.

Shanahan - has the falcons offense humming. Ryan has had his best year this year. Been around football his whole life.

Lynn - seems like his philosophy could ease the transition. Ground and pound type guy who makes the playbook simple. Would be huge with a young team

This is a great article regarding McDaniels and learning from Denver.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...pick-his-spots

McDaniels & GM he'd work well with and Garoppolo just seems like a perfect match. Which unfortunately means it won't happen but I'll keep on hoping for it til it does.

Lol at people still putting faith in Jed. He's out there interviewing a HC before getting a GM. Same ****, another 10 years. Can this ******* sell already?

This is deffenently an interesting time right now…. Even though we have a crappy owner we should still be looked at by GM's and coaches. After all this is pretty much a clean slate and we have the 2nd pick in the draft, plus close 80-90 million in cap space. There is still a lot of rebuilding.


I saw something earlier about Kyle Shanahan possibly a strong chance going to Denver.

i saw rob schneider is gonna form a group to make a pitch for the niners.
then i saw he would name steve young as GM.





i am all for it

Jed isnt going anywhere and the Yorks arent selling. They are rich and money doesnt matter to them. The 49ers are their sons pet project. All we can do is pray Jed gets it right like he did when he hired Harbs.

Do all the potential GMs we are interviewing have to wait for their teams season to be over before we can hire one?

u bring Nick, Josh, Jimmy and a slot receiver and u pretty much have in place a Pats Offense (in theory); it will make the GM/HC jobs a lot easier (only need to figure out some changes for the Defense).

u could take your chances with any GM, HC, QB but then THAT will take time to play out and after Chip was fired (only 1 yr) I don't think they will want to wait 2-4 years before things turn around.

jmho

Jed got a big EGO and he wants to be in control so that right there is a sign of trouble. it sucks to see the 49ers like this :'(

I agree, i just spoke about this on webzone.

I think getting those guys would be huge. They know what made the pats a success and bringing a GM and HC in who know that system so well is a really good fit and makes drafting and free agent signings much easier. Sure nobody is perfect but if you're going to copy one franchise in the current era of football it's the Pats. And while McDaniels may never be as good as Belichick and Garoppolo or whomever we draft at QB may never be as good as Tom Brady if we come even close it will mean a competitive team for a long time.