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Thread: BREAKING NEWS: EGYPTAR Flight has gone missing. Possible Crash

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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
We're not using words, we need military action. BUT we cannot alienate the entire Islamic community and project hatred for their faith. If we do that, nothing will be achieved their will just be another Isis, and then another, and then another.

If we align with Islam, and position it more as we're helping them get rid of the s*it that they don't want either it bodes better for the future.

not even a question.
who exactly will you align with? the saudi's? their government is the same salafi ideology that is part of isis.

Qatar? see above

Iran? They already hate the Sunni's

Libya? total chaos
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Originally Posted By CaseyJamess⏩
Muslim's don't do enough to separate themselves from terrorism.
so civil war and verbal condemnation isn't enough? What do you expect them to do?

A terroist cell explods a bomb in belgium, what the fuk are they supposed to do that they aren't already doing?
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
who exactly will you align with?
The muslim community that aren't terrorist and don't believe in this violence

hint: it's the vast majority of all muslims
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
so civil war and verbal condemnation isn't enough? What do you expect them to do?

A terroist cell explods a bomb in belgium, what the fuk are they supposed to do that they aren't already doing?
at least 50 'slums in Belgium knew of Saleh Abdeslams location after he was known to be involved in the Paris attack.

the entire town rioted when he was arrested



also planes just don't blow up in the sky without cause.

either something impacted it or there was an internal explosion

my guess is it was an affirmative action airport worker in Paristan
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Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩




BBC News is incredibly biased.

Reuters is the best and then RT is second best.
You guys have litteraly ZERO evidence to link this to islam. Almost nothing is known so far and this chit literally happened hours ago but already all of you have jumped the gun and ofcourse point it at islam and it's no fkn surprise. The Misc is dangerously conservative and it's evident in most threads where people joke around islam and terrorism and praising your lord trump. you're all almosthappy and excitedfor this incident because it would fuel some reasoning to misc's anti Islamic mentality and it's honestly sick


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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
We need to align with Islam because terrorist, lmao bro you are full retard.
You clearly lack the iq to understand the point I'm making.

If you think you can just "beat" terrorism with bombs and hate you're a retard.

Isis will just be replaced by another ******* group, just like Bin laden was replaced by another s*it bag and another etc.

But you trumptards don't get it
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
The muslim community that aren't terrorist and don't believe in this violence

hint: it's the vast majority of all muslims
how many of those people are in a position of power?
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
The muslim community that aren't terrorist and don't believe in this violence

hint: it's the vast majority of all muslims


How many muslims are actively trying to stop terrorism? We couldn't even find the ****ing terrorist in Belgium that was surrounded by muslims for months. Pls go
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Originally Posted By surf
at least 50 'slums in Belgium knew of Saleh Abdeslams location after he was known to be involved in the Paris attack.

the entire town rioted when he was arrested



also planes just don't blow up in the sky without cause.

either something impacted it or there was an internal explosion
so you're saying all it would have taken to stop it is if we had a better relationship with the slum communities?

surely the way to improve the situation is to condemn their religion, not work with them.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Definitely not the bigot who wants to ban all muslims from even coming into the country. Trump has already demonstrated that he thinks all of Islam hates the west. Dangerous ignorance
Well then the alternatives are two:

- A guy who will definitely not win and has only very vaguely stated what his Middle-East plan would be

- A woman who has every intention of declaring war on Assad and embarking on what will be another 20 year crusade in the Middle-East, probably involving confrontation with Russia and its allies


Definitely don't vote for a guy who:

a) Believes the Iraq war was a mistake
b) Wants to scale down US military intervention/presence worldwide
c) Wants to be careful about who he lets into his country, seeing as certain groups of people have amply manifested their anti-American/Western sentiment (whether justified or not)
d) Believes illegal immigration should be tackled

In any case, this isn't a US elections thread so I'll leave it at that.

One thing is for sure, liberal ideologies regarding assimilation/cooperation with Muslims are failing catastrophically in Europe and I see it with my own eyes. Europe is full of politicians who want to "seek alliances" "cooperate" "integrate" and "shelter" Muslims - and it's backfiring hard. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩


How many muslims are actively trying to stop terrorism? We couldn't even find the ****ing terrorist in Belgium that was surrounded by muslims for months. Pls go
What do you expect them to do?

I'm black, it's like when retarded white people say "what are you doing to stop gang violence". That has nothing to do with me lol what do you expect random muslims around the world to do
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Originally Posted By ggMoe⏩
I know most most of you ultra conservative trumptards fantasized this to be a muslim hijacking but i got some bad news...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/middle...-804-liveblog/

looks like it "plunged" into the water
the front page of CNN (the site you just linked) says "more likely terror than technical"
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Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩
So you're saying Muslims are so dangerous and violent that democratically elected officials with different views will turn a moderate into an extremist.

BRB we must tread on egg shells or face more violence.

Fukking *******.
His post was horrible. He's telling us to do exactly what the government has been doing which is the reason innocent people are getting killed around the world.

Close all borders and support their government to clean **** up.
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Originally Posted By Malakaibeats⏩
Well then the alternatives are two:

- A guy who will definitely not win and has only very vaguely stated what his Middle-East plan would be

- A woman who has every intention of declaring war on Assad and embarking on what will be another 20 year crusade in the Middle-East


Definitely don't vote for a guy who:

a) Believes the Iraq war was a mistake
b) Wants to scale down US military intervention/presence worldwide
c) Wants to be careful about who he lets into his country, seeing as certain groups of people have amply manifested their anti-American/Western sentiment
d) Believes illegal immigration should be tackled

In any case, this isn't a US elections thread so I'll leave it at that.

One thing is for sure, liberal ideologies regarding assimilation/cooperation with Muslims are failing catastrophically in Europe and I see it with my own eyes. Europe is full of politicians who want to "seek alliances" "cooperate" "integrate" and "shelter" Muslims - and it's backfiring hard. Just a thought.
Trump changes his tune every other day, I really don't even see how you believe a word that he says.

inb4 "everything I said during the campaign wasn't serious"

Are you going to be mad when Trump changes his mind while president just like he already has on the entire ban muslims thing? I'd rather have someone who I can trust for more than 24 hours.(which isn't hillary clinton either)
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
so you're saying all it would have taken to stop it is if we had a better relationship with the slum communities?

surely the way to improve the situation is to condemn their religion, not work with them.
the community wouldnt' give up a known terrorist who killed 130 innocents, the only relationship you should have with that community shipping them back to where they came from
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
You clearly lack the iq to understand the point I'm making.

If you think you can just "beat" terrorism with bombs and hate you're a retard.

Isis will just be replaced by another ******* group, just like Bin laden was replaced by another s*it bag and another etc.

But you trumptards don't get it
Well we all know the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. However they don't seem to be condemning the acts of terrorist with the veracity and anger you might expect .... I'll let you work that one out for yourself

Furthermore, Islam has been at war with the world and whoever neighbors them for over 1000 years.

I'm speaking for the radical Islamic people and nations. Not ALL Muslims.

To say it can't be won with bombs is almost funny. They certainly didn't get that memo now did they?

Study History. Ancient Islamic armies took over huge pieces of the world by doing what ISIS is doing today. Small armies conquer and terrorize and kill and enslave those who they deem beneath them.

Again they've been at it for over 1000 years. Point being is that those particular Muslims only understand brute force.

The Japanese in WW2 were much like the Muslims today They were absolute barbarians. Bombing them worked out just fine.

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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
What do you expect them to do?

I'm black, it's like when retarded white people say "what are you doing to stop gang violence". That has nothing to do with me lol what do you expect random muslims around the world to do
Well considering terrorism is more an ideological, it's hardly a comparison.

You could try to help change the culture by mentoring young black teens, but with you "nothing to do with me" attitude, I can understand why things will never change.
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
how many of those people are in a position of power?
they don't need to be in power, surf junkie just said the slum people in Beligium could have prevented the last terroist attack if they wanted.

We need to get to a point where we have that kind of relationship with Islam. Right now they don't have a reason to speak up because they think we hate them.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
so you're saying all it would have taken to stop it is if we had a better relationship with the slum communities?

surely the way to improve the situation is to condemn their religion, not work with them.
Pest Control doesn't mean trying to build a better relationship with the pests
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Originally Posted By DaHipsterDoofus⏩
Well considering terrorism is more an ideological, it's hardly a comparison.

You could try to help change the culture by mentoring young black teens, but with you "nothing to do with me" attitude, I can understand why things will never change.
I mentored black students while I was in college, but that isn't going to solve gang violence you dips*it. There are mentorship groups all over the country
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Originally Posted By surf
Pest Control doesn't mean trying to build a better relationship with the pests
if you want them to speak up about s*it thats going down and help to fight, yes it does.

If you want continue and probably increase the amount of bombs going off, please proceed
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
the community wouldnt' give up a known terrorist who killed 130 innocents, the only relationship you should have with that community shipping them back to where they came from
Let's see how that works out. Elect trump, let's discriminate against muslims. LOOL
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
they don't need to be in power, surf junkie just said the slum people in Beligium could have prevented the last terroist attack if they wanted.

We need to get to a point where we have that kind of relationship with Islam. Right now they don't have a reason to speak up because they think we hate them.
if we hate them then why are they lining up for miles to enter our borders, threatening violence unless they are let in?

the west hates them so much that they provide food, shelter, safety, and money to these people it deems so inferior.
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
if we hate them then why are they lining up for miles to enter our borders, threatening violence unless they are let in?

the west hates them so much that they provide food, shelter, safety, and money to these people it deems so inferior.
Why? Because terrorism and other garbage is destroying their countries and they want to flee.

the majority don't hate the west, but we aren't working with them the way we could be. There is no reason why slum people in Beligium shouldn't be communicating with us and tipping us off about a bomb about to go off.

But you don't get to that point by promoting discrimination and hatred
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Let's see how that works out. Elect trump, let's discriminate against muslims. LOOL
Trump is 6 months away from being potentially elected and pretty much every single leader in the west is currently pandering to Islamic wants and needs within their own borders...yet something explodes in the name of Allah every day..and get this, it's also happening within the nations that so "hatefully" took them in, gave them shelter and will no doubt give them documentation to be able to freely roam the west...

Your argument does not compute.

Do you know what no one in the west has tried yet? Being selective about who they let into their country. You know which countrieshavetried that? Countries who don't suffer from Islamic terrorism.
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Originally Posted By ggMoe⏩
You guys have litteraly ZERO evidence to link this to islam. Almost nothing is known so far and this chit literally happened hours ago but already all of you have jumped the gun and ofcourse point it at islam and it's no fkn surprise. The Misc is dangerously conservative and it's evident in most threads where people joke around islam and terrorism and praising your lord trump. you're all almosthappy and excitedfor this incident because it would fuel some reasoning to misc's anti Islamic mentality and it's honestly sick


Here's to speaking my mind, no ****s if every1 negs me
It probably sucks for you, because you speak as a level-headed guy, but blaming people for calling it what it is (or what Egypt thinks it is as of now) instead of blaming the people who did it is the reason people are skepitcal of "moderate muslims."

The first thing out of your all's mouths is always "it's mean to judge our religion for what these people did," never "it's disgusting and pathetic that these chitty terrorists are killing random people in the name of our religion."

It's a bad approach to winning over anyone but brain dead sjws who subscribe to any fake victim narrative offerred up.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
they don't need to be in power, surf junkie just said the slum people in Beligium could have prevented the last terroist attack if they wanted.

We need to get to a point where we have that kind of relationship with Islam. Right now they don't have a reason to speak up because they think we hate them.
Saving innocent people's lives isn't reason enough to report a known terrorist? Man your arguments are just bad. The world needs to up the punishment for having ties to terrorism not hand them cookies in hopes of them leaving us alone. If all known terrorist supporters hiding that dude were departed back to whatever country they came from, they'd think twice. But no, they received no punishment.

Every argument you are trying to make is making muslim look bad.
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Talk about a thread derail of peace

But lol you think Islam and the west can align. Islam isn't compatible with modernity. Islamic nations are executing atheists, gays and adulterers, treat women like property and don't have a single world class university in any Islamic nation. Those aren't radicals or terrorists btw, that is normal life in Islamic countries.

But surely we should import a chit ton of mid-lower class enrichers, that oughta end well.
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Originally Posted By GriecoR⏩
Saving innocent people's lives isn't reason enough to report a known terrorist? Man your arguments are just bad. The world needs to up the punishment to having ties to terrorism not hand them cookies in hopes of them leaving us alone.

Every argument you are trying to make is making muslim look bad.
Obviously they should do those things regardless but they are not currently, so that's what we need to work towards. Condemning all of Islam and discriminating against them isn't going to work.
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