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09-25-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
What if both parties are drunk and have sex, is it a 50/50 responsibility split? Lets say you slept with that girl instead of stopping, would it be 0/100 responsibility or does she carry any of that, for getting that wasted and going through with it? Just curious as to your thoughts.Politically driven or not. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. It sounds like this guy was a total drunk/douche in HS and College, too, which is why I don't doubt it happened. You can get women no problem w/out harassing or sexually assaulting them. It's not hard. There is absolutely no reason anyone should ever be harassed or sexually assaulted unless the person doing it has a serious character flaw.
For example: There is this guy I know at the bar I always go to. Cool guy, everyone likes him. I was talking to two women and he walks up and starts chatting. He isolates one of the women from me and unzips his pant and asks if she wants more. Like WTF dude. How do you not know that is wrong? And i'm pretty sure he was sober at the time. I've seen what douche's are capable of sober, let alone drunk, and there are lot of them out there. Most men are seriously retarded when it comes to women, especially when they are younger.
Another example: I was at a party when I was 21. Got hammered. Started making out with an 19yo that was also hammered. Took her shirt off, but as soon as I realized how drunk she was. I immediately stopped. Why? because I actually have integrity and I'm not a douche that needs to take advantage of drunk women to get laid.
If you are getting #metoo'd you probably crossed a line you shouldn't have crossed. I know there are exceptions, but that's it. Exceptions. Most dudes are guilty.
For example: There is this guy I know at the bar I always go to. Cool guy, everyone likes him. I was talking to two women and he walks up and starts chatting. He isolates one of the women from me and unzips his pant and asks if she wants more. Like WTF dude. How do you not know that is wrong? And i'm pretty sure he was sober at the time. I've seen what douche's are capable of sober, let alone drunk, and there are lot of them out there. Most men are seriously retarded when it comes to women, especially when they are younger.
Another example: I was at a party when I was 21. Got hammered. Started making out with an 19yo that was also hammered. Took her shirt off, but as soon as I realized how drunk she was. I immediately stopped. Why? because I actually have integrity and I'm not a douche that needs to take advantage of drunk women to get laid.
If you are getting #metoo'd you probably crossed a line you shouldn't have crossed. I know there are exceptions, but that's it. Exceptions. Most dudes are guilty.
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09-25-2018, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
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09-25-2018, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
Not in that situation. I felt the burden was on me. Personally, i never have and never will have sex with a woman that is that drunk, especially if i just met her. Buzzed, sure. She can't consent if she's drunk, even if you are drunk, too. That is no excuse. Hell, there's even been a few times where I have asked, "Hey you've had a lot to drink tonight, you sure you want to do this? We can just sleep it off." No one should be so desperate for sex that they won't ask if unsure. If anything, it turned the women on more because I asked, but again, we were actually dating and while it may have been the first time we were together, it wasn't some random act.What if both parties are drunk and have sex, is it a 50/50 responsibility split? Lets say you slept with that girl instead of stopping, would it be 0/100 responsibility or does she carry any of that, for getting that wasted and going through with it? Just curious as to your thoughts.
Just imaging for a second you get black out drunk and you wake up with a 400lb whale riding your cock. Just because you put yourself in that situation does that give her the green light to violate you? Would you be willing to take 50% of the blame for that? Doubt it.
Now, lets take that a step further. How likely is that vs a man taking advantage of a drunk woman? Pretty much null because 999/1000 times if a man doesn't want to have sex, he won't, and a woman can't make him no matter what. If we are too drunk, we aren't getting hard anyway, so its physically impossible. That is exactly why the burden is on us. Is it fair? No, but it's not hard to avoid these situations and the few have ruined it for the many.
Now, like I said. IF kavanaugh was in that room with Ford. What she said happened, most likely happened.
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09-25-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Oh, so because she said it happened means it probably happened. This flawed reasoning is part of the problem.Now, like I said. IF kavanaugh was in that room with Ford. What she said happened, most likely happened.
09-25-2018, 03:19 PM
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Yeah, dude, she's a ****ing PsyD with just as much to lose as kavanaugh.
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09-25-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Yeah man, a nobody that's earning a big 70k professors salary in a high cost of living state, way too much on the line.Yeah, dude, she's a ****ing phd with just as much to lose as kavanaugh.
09-25-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Based on what? That her word is automatically more trustworthy because she's a woman?Not in that situation. I felt the burden was on me. Personally, i never have and never will have sex with a woman that is that drunk, especially if i just met her. Buzzed, sure. She can't consent if she's drunk, even if you are drunk, too. That is no excuse. Hell, there's even been a few times where I have asked, "Hey you've had a lot to drink tonight, you sure you want to do this? We can just sleep it off." No one should be so desperate for sex that they won't ask if unsure. If anything, it turned the women on more because I asked, but again, we were actually dating and while it may have been the first time we were together, it wasn't some random act.
Just imaging for a second you get black out drunk and you wake up with a 400lb whale riding your cock. Just because you put yourself in that situation does that give her the green light to violate you? Would you be willing to take 50% of the blame for that? Doubt it.
Now, lets take that a step further. How likely is that vs a man taking advantage of a drunk woman? Pretty much null because 999/1000 times if a man doesn't want to have sex, he won't, and a woman can't make him no matter what. If we are too drunk, we aren't getting hard anyway, so its physically impossible. That is exactly why the burden is on us. Is it fair? No, but it's not hard to avoid these situations and the few have ruined it for the many.
Now, like I said. IF kavanaugh was in that room with Ford. What she said happened, most likely happened.
Just imaging for a second you get black out drunk and you wake up with a 400lb whale riding your cock. Just because you put yourself in that situation does that give her the green light to violate you? Would you be willing to take 50% of the blame for that? Doubt it.
Now, lets take that a step further. How likely is that vs a man taking advantage of a drunk woman? Pretty much null because 999/1000 times if a man doesn't want to have sex, he won't, and a woman can't make him no matter what. If we are too drunk, we aren't getting hard anyway, so its physically impossible. That is exactly why the burden is on us. Is it fair? No, but it's not hard to avoid these situations and the few have ruined it for the many.
Now, like I said. IF kavanaugh was in that room with Ford. What she said happened, most likely happened.
09-25-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Because rich people never committed any stupid crimes or done stupid **** right?Yeah, dude, she's a ****ing PsyD with just as much to lose as kavanaugh.
Every argument you have raised have been based on what you personally feel, none of it has been grounded in any fact or logic.
Put it this way, a leftist would feel like the cost of losing her career getting caught lying outweighs the potential benefit of "resisting Nazi Trump's supreme Court league of evil nomination". She feels like a damn hero.
I literally had a girl that I had simply met a few times through gatherings, and barely spoke to swear that she personally saw me steal **** from my friends home.
09-25-2018, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By LeJR⏩
+ a book deal, media tours, speaking engagements ect... it would be a total homerun vs. some BS professors salary.Because rich people never committed any stupid crimes or done stupid **** right?
Every argument you have raised have been based on what you personally feel, none of it has been grounded in any fact or logic.
Put it this way, a leftist would feel like the cost of losing her career getting caught lying outweighs the potential benefit of "resisting Nazi Trump's supreme Court league of evil nomination". She feels like a damn hero.
Every argument you have raised have been based on what you personally feel, none of it has been grounded in any fact or logic.
Put it this way, a leftist would feel like the cost of losing her career getting caught lying outweighs the potential benefit of "resisting Nazi Trump's supreme Court league of evil nomination". She feels like a damn hero.
This pondus_levo guy doesn't really have much to offer besides his feelings, like talking to a child.
09-25-2018, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Professor of psychology at the most prestigious school in the nation and you think she only makes $70k/year and has nothing to lose?Yeah man, a nobody that's earning a big 70k professors salary in a high cost of living state, way too much on the line.
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes. Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
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09-25-2018, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Error 404: logic not detected.Professor of psychology at the most prestigious school in the nation and you think she only makes $70k/year and has nothing to lose?
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes.Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes.Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
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Originally Posted By Agentdark45⏩
By his logic we should also believe the accuser that Avenatti is teasing us with and the claims that Kavanaugh and his buddy would go around school/parties yelling "CHOO CHOO here comes the rape train" towards their unsuspecting victims. But certainly if I never say "CHOO CHOO here comes the rape train" then I have nothing to worry about because no one could allege I did.Error 404: logic not detected.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
I think in fairness she could very well see herself to be a martyr for a political cause she ardently believes in, and uniquely positioned due to geographic / social proximity during her high school years to derail his nomination.Professor of psychology at the most prestigious school in the nation and you think she only makes $70k/year and has nothing to lose?
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes. Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes. Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but that there is also a reasonable alternative explanation where the accusations could be false, especially given how extremely passionate to the point of “anything goes in order to protect the rights of women”, liberal women can be. People blow themselves up because they believe in Islam, the human psyche is absolutely if not routinely capable of finding such personal sacrifices to be worthwhile.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
I find it absolutely fascinating how people are so quick to abandon reason and logic in situations such as this. Are they really asking to go back to a medieval style system of justice because in 2018 there is some special and unique character that makes women exempt from the rule of law? Are women all of a sudden incapable of perjury or am I missing something here?By his logic we should also believe the accuser that Avenatti is teasing us with and the claims that Kavanaugh and his buddy would go around school/parties yelling "CHOO CHOO here comes the rape train" towards their unsuspecting victims. But certainly if I never say "CHOO CHOO here comes the rape train" then I have nothing to worry about because no one could allege I did.
How far are they willing to extend this? Women gets accused of murder/domestic abuse/infanticide/fraud/sexual misconduct, she denies it...why would she possibly commit said crime? She's on 70k a year and has a professional job...don't even bother going to trial, just acquit straight away...wat.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Incorrect, studies put false rape at 2-10%. Now you may think that is low, but that is what has been proven to be false, it does not suggest that the remainder is true. If you applied that logic, you could take the proven rape cases and suggest that the remainder is a false rape allegation.Professor of psychology at the most prestigious school in the nation and you think she only makes $70k/year and has nothing to lose?
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes. Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
Is this just coming out now because of political reasons. Yes. Did it most likely happen as she said it did. Yes.
You asked how do you prevent this from happening to yourself and my answer still stands: Don't do it in the first place and you will have nothing to worry about.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
John Conyers recently for starters and you go back to a long list both in and out of DC of democrats having to resign over sex scandals/metoo type ****. Bill Clinton is example number one. But even before that I remember Gary Hart having to drop of the the 1988 primaries because of a sex scandal. He was the front runner at the time for the dems and might have given HW Bush a good run in that election.Uhhhh, Al Franken actually sexually assaulted someone. They had pictures of it
We don't even need to get into Anthony Weiner and his antics
I'll ask again. Which Democrats have been #metoo'd?
That's odd because the Senate has interviewed 4 people from that party that Professor Ford claimed were there and all of them denied anything happened
So obviously, you don't know what you're talking about
We don't even need to get into Anthony Weiner and his antics
I'll ask again. Which Democrats have been #metoo'd?
That's odd because the Senate has interviewed 4 people from that party that Professor Ford claimed were there and all of them denied anything happened
So obviously, you don't know what you're talking about
If you are of the wrong political persuasion people are willing to believe anything you are accused of. Just look at all the Trump supporters accepting it as fact that accusations made again Bill Clinton (or Hillary for that matter) are indeed fact. This thread is filled with it. No proper inverstation, no trail needed. Those things don't matter when politics are involved. Guilty as charged. Trump himself leading the pack, cheering this on, bringing a bunch of women out before a debate against Hillary Clinton two years ago only to be accused of sexaul assualt himself, then later caught lying about infidelity charges and payoffs. No different than Clinton. Do Trump supporters believe these charges against him? Absolutely not. People will believe what they want to believe for political gain.
09-25-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
That's not how it works you are naive.don't be a chit person and don't associate with chit women
They will dig into your past, find an early job you had, then trace another woman that worked there.
They will then threaten her or pay her to go along with the story they made up about you.
It's nothing to do with you or her being a good or bad person.
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