A teacher should have enough time to realise he's at that point and is no longer fit to be a teacher.

This is one of those situations where while I believe the kid totally deserves it, I don't at all agree with the teacher doing it.

14 is still a kid. A grown ass man shouldn't square up with one.

Doesn't mean the video didn't make me smile tho.

You’re stupid like your father was... lol

Point me to one normal modern parenting book that advocates hitting children...

Link me pls.

Id have a bigger problem with the teacher if the kid didnt get violent

Dont really understand why kid should learn he can be violent and people wont retaliate, nor why you should convince the teacher he doesnt have a right to defend himself

The kid escalated it by getting violent

That’s what an educator is, someone who has patience being the bigger person amongst kids.

You can’t just have kids instantly become adults, there’s a growth process that takes time.

When they are in that retarded zone the only thing you can do is endure it until they reach maturization.

So yeah that’s essentially what a teacher does to troubled kids is they endure it, within reason, for years until they grow out of it.

Judge mental fuk heads won’t even stop short of age of concent to drop fury and judgement on anyone and everything that isn’t perfect.

Yes kids can be bad and they have legal protection to be imperfect until they can mature.

That’s why we don’t send kids to prison, they are literally still learning what it means to be alive and in society.

Of course a teachers job is to just overlook it. Yeah they get away with all that stuff and yes a teacher needs to endure it or otherwise gtfo of the industry

youre literally baby sitting them, enduring their behavior, until enough time passes that they are not retarded anymore.

lol at you trying to shove this argument onto me. You made that dumb point that stats bear it out.

Since I'm feeling charitable here you go:http://time.com/3387226/spanking-can...ld-discipline/

Dr. Jared Pingleton is a clinical psychologist and minister and serves as the director for Focus on the Family’s Counseling department. In this role, he provides leadership for the 13 licensed mental health professionals and two ordained chaplains who offer guidance and resources to people facing a variety of circumstances.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...bout-spanking/

Problems with those studies:
"Yet some researchers remain skeptical. First, although the new analysis did attempt to separate the effects of spanking from those of physical tactics that are considered harsher, research has shown that many parents who spank also use other forms of punishment—so “you’re still not really isolating spanking from overall abusiveness,” explains Christopher Ferguson, a psychologist at Stetson University in Florida. In other words, the negative effects associated with spanking could still be driven in part by parents’ use of other tactics."

To spank or not to spank? This age-old parenting question elicits fierce debate among parents, psychologists and pediatricians. Surveys suggest that nearly half of U.S. parents have spanked their children as a disciplinary tactic, but many experts argue that this form of punishment—hitting a child on the bottom with an open hand—increases the risk that kids will develop emotional and behavioral problems. Other scientists counter that research on the issue is fraught with problems, making it impossible to draw black-and-white conclusions. A new meta-analysis addresses several of the most contentious points in the debate and concludes that spanking does pose risks, but differences of opinion persist.

The meta-analysis was not simply an attempt to synthesize studies—Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor also wanted to address two concerns often raised about the body of research linking spanking to childhood problems. The first is that much of it has evaluated the effects of physical punishment in general, without homing in on the effects of spanking specifically—and because physical punishment can include tactics such as hitting with objects, pinching and biting, this “lumping problem” may ultimately exaggerate spanking’s risks. The second concern is that many published studies are “cross-sectional,” which means that they evaluate the effects of spanking by collecting data at a single point in time, making determinations of cause and effect difficult. A cross-sectional study might, for instance, find that aggressive 10-year-olds were more likely than docile 10-year-olds to have been spanked as toddlers, but that does not mean that spanking made them aggressive. They may have been spanked because they were acting out back then, too.

To address these issues, Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor did several things. First, they limited their meta-analysis to studies that evaluated the effects of spanking, slapping and hitting children without the use of objects, and found that spanking is still associated with negative outcomes. They also compared the results from cross-sectional studies with results from longitudinal studies, which track the kids’ behavior over time and are better able to tease out cause and effect. Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor found that spanking is associated with negative outcomes in both types of studies, which strengthens the argument that spanking poses risks.

Yet some researchers remain skeptical. First, although the new analysis did attempt to separate the effects of spanking from those of physical tactics that are considered harsher, research has shown that many parents who spank also use other forms of punishment—so “you’re still not really isolating spanking from overall abusiveness,” explains Christopher Ferguson, a psychologist at Stetson University in Florida. In other words, the negative effects associated with spanking could still be driven in part by parents’ use of other tactics.

The new analysis also did not completely overcome the lumping problem: It considered slapping and hitting children anywhere on the body as synonymous with spanking but these actions might have distinct effects. Some research also suggests that the effects of spanking differ depending on the reasons parents spank, how frequently they do so and how old children are at the time—so the conclusion from the meta-analysis that spanking itself is dangerous may be overly simplistic. “I think it’s irresponsible to make exclusive statements one way or another,” Ferguson says.

Finally, the associations reported in the meta-analysis between spanking and negative outcomes did not control for the potential mediating effects of other variables, which raises the chicken-or-egg question: Are kids spanked because they act out or do they act out because they are spanked—or both? (Even longitudinal studies don’t completely resolve this problem, because behavioral problems may worsen over time regardless of spanking’s effects.) To rule out the possibility that spanking is only associated with bad outcomes because poorly behaved kids are the ones getting spanked, researchers can use statistical methods to control for the influence of temperament and preexisting behavioral characteristics—but these methods are difficult to employ in meta-analyses, and the new analysis did not attempt such a feat. Ferguson did try to control for the effects of preexisting child behavior in a 2013 meta-analysis he published of the longitudinal studies on this issue; when he did, “spanking’s effects became trivial,” he says. As a further demonstration of the importance of careful statistical controls, Robert Larzelere, a psychologist at Oklahoma State University, and his colleagues reported in a 2010 study that grounding and psychotherapy are linked just as strongly to bad behavior as spanking is but that all the associations disappear with the use of careful statistical controls. It makes sense that disciplinary tactics used as responses to bad behavior will be associated with such behavior, Larzelere says, unless care is taken to control for children’s preexisting characteristics and temperaments."

Fuk off with your jibberjabber, it hasn't always been like this and jibberjabber *******s like you are part of what created it. You need to take Trump out of your sig if you're gonna be a snowflake.

I know this is a troll post but wondering what the liberal white woman response to this would be. Black male vs young latino kid and whatnot

Yes.

Lol at the snowflakes in here thinking words will solve problems.
It's easy to see who grew up in bubbles and those who grew up/spent time in rougher areas.

No.

You know why this gained so much traction?

Because society is so cucked by reverse racism, that they project sympathy onto this guy.

Like if youre a crazy old black man and someone calls you the n word.... its understandable you would relapse into violence. thats what the money is a safety net for.

This is the man every single person who donated saw...



Like oh its Ok, "I can see why he snapped" its ok because he's an old black man and he cant take it.

Once again, society pandering to black people out of guilt/reverse racism. -which is a form of racism.

It wasnt a troll post. I’m not a liberal so I can’t answer your question.

Im the last person that is a snowflake here you cave man *******.

who uses the term jibber jabber in 2018 you low test uneducated fool.

Literally people cry all the time because I am too high test and aggressive on here because of my sharp intellect, wtf are you calling me a snowflake for.

This is real life. In real life you dont fight people, you call police or security. Civilized people dont fight you moron.

And im making commentary on how the process of change and improvement would go, offering theoretical solutions.

the solution is to spread positive education, not to act like animal behavior is warranted.

Not only is a lot of chit you post retarded.

But why would you convince the teacher he doesnt have a right to defend himself?

Or anybody for that matter. Just gonna allow people to do whatever they want to you physically?

Great analysis...but I think you're wrong.

Kid got what he was hoping for anyways. You don't bad mouth someone and call them a pussy for walking away, throw a basketball at them, etc. and expect nothing in retaliation. Teacher could have handled it differently but I certainly don't blame him for the kid's attitude adjustment. Just a clear case of a bully who got what he asked for.

Little bitch didn't even tap out...kept trying to fight back and got his ass handed to him. I say good for the teacher, and I don't give a fuk what race that teacher is.

Meet me at Original Timmy Chan, 5926 Scott St in H-Town at Midnight Saturday night and I'll spread some positive education across your sexy bare ass with my god damn belt you little 160 pound twink.

edit: nvmnd you don't fight because you're civilized

What a piece of ****.. talking about the kid obviously.
But the teacher shouldn't have snapped. Better dismiss the kid from school and make his parents do the rest.

this is why I stay home.

Ok the first one was a reference to a christian ministry and the second pretty much proved my point in the first paragraph while venturing on to posit that its quite complex, but still didn't disagree, just said its complex to test.

"many experts argue that this form of punishment—hitting a child on the bottom with an open hand—increases the risk that kids will develop emotional and behavioral problems"

on top of that I could counter back with dozens of articles I've read that explain it in nuanced depth why it fuks them up but not worth it since your initial post was a "focus on the family radio" article on the topic so I won by default.

Real life doesn't work by hypothesizing theoretical solutions in every single postmortem instance.

Of the legitimate parents in this thread who posted, most of them would be happy if the kid got knocked around and ashamed of actions the kid performed as they are directly representative of the family.

Not saying this -instance- either party wasright, but I definitely wouldn't press charges on the teacher if my kid somehow managed to approach this level of stupidity in the classroom. At 14 if you don't know that its not OK to throw a basketball at an authority figure and call him one of the most derogatory racial terms, igotsomebadnews.jpeg - that's not due to lack of maturity, that's due to outright lack of respect and empathy for others.

Most intelligent people don't brag about their own sharp intellect either.

Been playing paintball every other weekend since I was in HS. Dont think you want this shootout buddy.

I literally train MMA and have guns and have gun fighting simulation experience for a decade straight. I would dominate you if it came down to it bub.

Dont try to act hard im not impressed. I grew up poor in Oakland in the 90s.

no, that is in fact due to lack of maturity and education.

Its not about knowing that "its not OK"

Its about knowing its not OK, and still deciding, being driven to do it, to rebel, to be bad, there's a reason for it.

If he is at that troubled point he needs more education. Not violence.

im not saying I agree, but I understand why he did it.

Just like in real life if you work at a store and the manager tells someone disruptive to leave, and they dont.... what do you do?

You call security or police, you dont touch them.

Same "lesson" in school obviously. Security and police are trained specifically to touch people and how far to go (lol) and not go and so on, so ideally only someone with training should be administering physical relocation or apprehension of an individual.

The black guy was retarded. No excuse, shouldn't be a teacher, neither should any black person that would snap on a kid trying to trigger them with the n word.

Breh your arguments of "I'm right because I say so" are getting stale.

TBH he's 64. If he was 34 I'd say show some restraint and be the bigger man but fuk he's probably had a long hard life and snapped. Can't blame him. That kid is obviously a fukwad. Although I still think you gotta be the bigger man, especially as a teacher. After he snapped though that was it lol. Went way too far.

As for the money, if idiots want to give money then that's up to them. Thinking of setting one up for myself.

Well youre acting like as if a child "knows" something is wrong then automatically he should submit to the idea.

thats not how it works.

I dont know what kind of parent would be "ok" with having their son get beat up. So that was a weird ass statement from you to.

What type of proof do you want? Have you studied sociology at a university? What about psychology?

KingSWRV baiting hard ITT.

I see you.

I don’t know who thought it was a good idea to remove the ability to discipline kids in school.