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post 1576254101 03-20-2019, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Can't respond to your quote again
I'm going to condense my response to what she said about the "male gaze" in relation to film (because outside of film that expression has a totally different meaning) being a "framing technique". Ok, that's fine, but it would make more sense to call it something else since it's not a "male gaze" when the gaze isn't coming from a male. How about just "The Gaze" (or maybe in this instance, the Director's Gaze).

I'd equate this to something I experienced back in college. They were opening a "Women's Center" and they came to class one day to tell us all about it/extol its so-called virtues. When I asked if I could be excused as I wasn't a woman and clearly this center was not "for me", they tried to claim that it was for both men AND women. When I asked why they'd call it a "Women's" center if it wasn't exclusively for women, they didn't have an answer for me. This was my first experience with feminism btw... prior to that I had no knowledge on the subject aside from the usual crap you see on TV about how women are supposedly paid less than men (even though we now know this to be 100% false).

For some reason feminists like to name things with a female bent, and then act confused when people think it's exclusively for women.
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How many white nationalists do people think there are out there. I bet it's a fraction of a percent at most. There's far more nationalists, which is a different thing. I'm a nationalists but my vision for a better America includes all citizens and not one race.
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Problem with any kind of Ethnostate is deciding who belongs to it.

When you think of Africa you probably think of some huge homogenous black race, but it's the complete opposite. There is an absolute ton of different black looking ethnicities there and all they hate each other. Thats why you get these ridiculous wars there all the time. I knew a black South African chick on exchange that complained about how all the Nigerian immigrants were ruining the country. But to an average white guy they all look "Black" so why don't they all just live in Harmony??

I don't think many true ethnostates exist, Japan is probably the closest I can think of.

What I'm actually worried about is cultural replacement, not racial replacement.
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Obviously not.

Whites are barely 15% of the world's population and dropping fast. Why should they be the only people on the planet without their own nations and without self-determination? You are a genocidal maniac if your position is that all whites should be governed and ruled over by non-whites, even in their own homelands.

It's going to happen one way or the other within our lifetime. Better that it happen relatively peacefully.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm going to condense my response to what she said about the "male gaze" in relation to film (because outside of film that expression has a totally different meaning) being a "framing technique". Ok, that's fine, but it would make more sense to call it something else since it's not a "male gaze" when the gaze isn't coming from a male. How about just "The Gaze" (or maybe in this instance, the Director's Gaze).

I'd equate this to something I experienced back in college. They were opening a "Women's Center" and they came to class one day to tell us all about it/extol its so-called virtues. When I asked if I could be excused as I wasn't a woman and clearly this center was not "for me", they tried to claim that it was for both men AND women. When I asked why they'd call it a "Women's" center if it wasn't exclusively for women, they didn't have an answer for me. This was my first experience with feminism btw... prior to that I had no knowledge on the subject aside from the usual crap you see on TV about how women are supposedly paid less than men (even though we now know this to be 100% false).

For some reason feminists like to name things with a female bent, and then act confused when people think it's exclusively for women.
I think that is a fair criticism.
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No just mean you stay in your land and I’ll stay in mine nobody has to hate each other.

Anyways it’ll never work we’ve gone to far now, Iam happy with just good ole nationalism.
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Is it ''wrong'' if I feel ''proud'' of being white? (Srs question)
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Is it ''wrong'' if I feel ''proud'' of being white? (Srs question)
It just doesn't make any sense. If you kicked ass at work and got a promotion, then that's something to be proud of. In other words, you being white is of no doing of your own.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Is it ''wrong'' if I feel ''proud'' of being white? (Srs question)
I can understand, trying to create a sense of pride/appreciation for your race, if you've found yourself feeling ashamed of being your race. Beyond that, I find racial pride strange.

I don't feel the same about ethnic pride.

(Just to reitrate: White is a race, not an ethnicity.)

White (or Black) is a really broad term, referring to ethnicities that can be very different (even hostile).

Also, I've found (in the west at least) that people who promote racial pride (Black pride or White Pride) tend to also be hostile, and promote paranoid conspiracy theories that the entire world is against them.

I've found that people who are proud of their ethnicity (there are different ways of defining ethnicity, before someone jumps on me for the following) like; Scottish Pride, Jamaican Pride, Italian Pride, etc. Tend not to be that hostile.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Is it ''wrong'' if I feel ''proud'' of being white? (Srs question)
How can you feel proud of something you didnt accomplish. You werent given a choice to be white, you just did not exist at one point, and then you did and you happened to be white. You can probably replace proud with another term because it really doesnt make sense in the context. You can be happy, pleased, elated, etc that you are white, but proud doesnt fit.
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
How can you feel proud of something you didnt accomplish. You werent given a choice to be white, you just did not exist at one point, and then you did and you happened to be white. You can probably replace proud with another term because it really doesnt make sense in the context. You can be happy, pleased, elated, etc that you are white, but proud doesnt fit.
Yep... you can take pride in something you accomplish through hard work.

Being "proud" of something given to you at birth is pure retardation.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
So when I tell you I know a whole bunch of feminists but you say they aren’t actually feminists because they don’t match some criteria you have you ... really don’t see how that applies?

Amazing.
You really can't tell the difference between 1st and 2nd wave feminism and the later forms?

The belief structure of both groups is radically different even though they both call themselves "Feminists"

This is not related to "No True Scotsman"
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
It just doesn't make any sense. If you kicked ass at work and got a promotion, then that's something to be proud of. In other words, you being white is of no doing of your own.
People who are "proud" of being white believe the meme that they are under attack and being made to feel inferior. They feel outnumbered and because they are struggling and not too bright to begin with, they lash back with an opposite reaction. Watch History X.
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Originally Posted By stanlarpinger⏩
People who are "proud" of being white believe the meme that they are under attack and being made to feel inferior. They feel outnumbered and because they are struggling and not too bright to begin with, they lash back with an opposite reaction. Watch History X.
American History X? I'm sure a lot of White Nationalists loved that movie up to the last 30 minutes.
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Originally Posted By stanlarpinger⏩
People who are "proud" of being white believe the meme that they are under attack and being made to feel inferior. They feel outnumbered and because they are struggling and not too bright to begin with, they lash back with an opposite reaction. Watch History X.
As I said above anyone who is "proud" of something they had no control over is retarded.

However, trying to pretend that progressives are not using "privilege" to marginalize arguments is on the same level.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
It just doesn't make any sense. If you kicked ass at work and got a promotion, then that's something to be proud of. In other words, you being white is of no doing of your own.
So I got to beat people up at work? I see...
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I can understand, trying to create a sense of pride/appreciation for your race, if you've found yourself feeling ashamed of being your race. Beyond that, I find racial pride strange.

I don't feel the same about ethnic pride.

(Just to reitrate: White is a race, not an ethnicity.)

White (or Black) is a really broad term, referring to ethnicities that can be very different (even hostile).

Also, I've found (in the west at least) that people who promote racial pride (Black pride or White Pride) tend to also be hostile, and promote paranoid conspiracy theories that the entire world is against them.

I've found that people who are proud of their ethnicity (there are different ways of defining ethnicity, before someone jumps on me for the following) like; Scottish Pride, Jamaican Pride, Italian Pride, etc. Tend not to be that hostile.
So is it ok for me to one day shout ''White power!''?
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
How can you feel proud of something you didnt accomplish. You werent given a choice to be white, you just did not exist at one point, and then you did and you happened to be white. You can probably replace proud with another term because it really doesnt make sense in the context. You can be happy, pleased, elated, etc that you are white, but proud doesnt fit.
I look at it like this, I'm short (5'7'') and while I may not be ''proud'' of my height, at least i can honestly say I'm 5'7'' and not just 5'6'' or 5'5'' or even shorter, so I don't take my height for granted, now what if I was tall? What if I was, let's say, 6'2''? Would it be ok to be ''proud'' of being tall??
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Yep... you can take pride in something you accomplish through hard work.

Being "proud" of something given to you at birth is pure retardation.
So if I was born with blue eyes, am I allowed to be proud of my blue eyes? I actually was born with brown eyes, so technically speaking I'm not ''proud'' of my eye color (I'm not ashamed of my eye color either), my eyes are just brown, a very common eye color, but let's say I was born with blue eyes, would it be ''ok'' to be proud of my blue eyes?
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Originally Posted By stanlarpinger⏩
People who are "proud" of being white believe the meme that they are under attack and being made to feel inferior. They feel outnumbered and because they are struggling and not too bright to begin with, they lash back with an opposite reaction. Watch History X.
white nationalism is gaining traction because its an organic movement that is an alternative to normie tier dogma on society and history. lmao watch American History X. the worship of chit put out by WOKE hollywood is the root of the degeneration of people in the west. dont ever appeal to trash put out by ped0wood again
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If white people want to create an all white region in a european country or america, they should be allowed to do that. Other races should also have that right. I understand that you cannot deport people that are born in the country.
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No such thing as white nationalism, BRB pretending as in just because two people are white they're at all similar.

BRB pretending like a Russian and a Frenchman have anything in common, or a Greek and an Englishman.

So called white nationalism is an excuse to be racist, which is fine, but just be honest about it.

I can understand saying England should be for the Englishmen, but saying England is for whites is saying that all white people are the same, and I'm sure the Irish would disagree.

No such thing as Asian nationalism, as all Asians hate other Asians, and the same goes for Arabs, and for Africans.


If you wanna be racist, it's your right, but be transparent about it. Personally, I'll respect you more for it.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I look at it like this, I'm short (5'7'') and while I may not be ''proud'' of my height, at least i can honestly say I'm 5'7'' and not just 5'6'' or 5'5'' or even shorter, so I don't take my height for granted, now what if I was tall? What if I was, let's say, 6'2''? Would it be ok to be ''proud'' of being tall??
Height has nothing to do with your skin color. If you are a pain in the ass child who wont drink you milk or eat your veggies, your growth will probably be stunted. Had you eaten and drank your milk and grew at the rate your body naturally does, I guess you can be proud that you maximized your growth. But again, your skin color has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than it being genetic. You had no role in determining your skin color and you still dont, unless you artificially change your skin color. That would just mean you are mentally ill.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
So is it ok for me to one day shout ''White power!''?
Give it a go...

In public.

And upload it to youtube.
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Take any official group like the American Jewish Committee (AJC), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), whatever, and insert White in there. American White Committee, National Association for the Advancement of White People. This is somehow racist.

White nationalism is simply a reaction to the clear oppression of white people in a country that was founded and built by people of their race and for people of their race. What they see as their birthright is being taken from them in front of their eyes via establishment-forced multiculturalism. I don't think many white nationalists advocate for a completely white country. That seems unrealistic at this point. I think most of them primarily want to stop the hate against them, which includes this forced flood of 3rd world immigration which is literally a white population replacement plan. Their tax dollars funding effective border walls in other countries and they can't even get their own border secured. I think they want a return to race realism (i.e. race exists and it has implications), a return to truth. They don't want to hurt anybody; they just want to be allowed their self interest like every other group.

I remember seeing a news story of people freaking out over flyers that said, "It's ok to be white". You can't even say that nowadays, because it's NOT ok to be white anymore. Try telling me whites aren't oppressed.

I'm only 1/2 white in case anyone wants to call me a Nazi or some other ridiculous thing.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
No such thing as white nationalism, BRB pretending as in just because two people are white they're at all similar.

BRB pretending like a Russian and a Frenchman have anything in common, or a Greek and an Englishman.

So called white nationalism is an excuse to be racist, which is fine, but just be honest about it.

I can understand saying England should be for the Englishmen, but saying England is for whites is saying that all white people are the same, and I'm sure the Irish would disagree.

No such thing as Asian nationalism, as all Asians hate other Asians, and the same goes for Arabs, and for Africans.


If you wanna be racist, it's your right, but be transparent about it. Personally, I'll respect you more for it.
So an Englishman and Irishman and Russian DON'T have more in common with each other than they do with a Nigerian, Chinese, or Saudi?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

Your cold take on race is too narrow for this topic.
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Originally Posted By John$Galt⏩
So an Englishman and Irishman and Russian DON'T have more in common with each other than they do with a Nigerian, Chinese, or Saudi?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

Your cold take on race is too narrow for this topic.
I’m white, my wife is ethnically Chinese. I have a lot more in common with her than pretty much anyone else in the world.
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Originally Posted By John$Galt⏩
So an Englishman and Irishman and Russian DON'T have more in common with each other than they do with a Nigerian, Chinese, or Saudi?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

Your cold take on race is too narrow for this topic.
Russia has more in common with Nigeria than it does with any European country. It's a desolate shyt hole third world country with a rampant murder rate, and people live in chaos. Sounds a lot like Nigeria. The only thing any other European country might have in common with Russia is skin color, because Russians even have different facial features.

Again, be more honest with your intentions. Don't be a hypocrite.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
So if I was born with blue eyes, am I allowed to be proud of my blue eyes? I actually was born with brown eyes, so technically speaking I'm not ''proud'' of my eye color (I'm not ashamed of my eye color either), my eyes are just brown, a very common eye color, but let's say I was born with blue eyes, would it be ''ok'' to be proud of my blue eyes?
Your allowed to be proud of whatever you want... Just makes you an idiot...

Be proud of your ACHIEVEMENTS. Things earned by hard work. Why would you be proud of something you gained by existing?

BRB so proud I was born with 10 fingers...
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