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post 1595059751 01-06-2020, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
"Concealed-carry permit holders are the most law-abiding demographic of U.S. citizens, according to a recent report by the Crime Prevention Research Center."

https://crimeresearch.org/2015/02/co...ermit-holders/

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=2814691

https://txhga.org/2015/12/31/chl-study/







I think you've worn out your welcome in the gun threads
Say's who, some hillbilly from Georgia? GTFO. I asked you to provide a reputable source. We don't have concealed carry in my state, never said I don't believe in it. But to think you should have the same rights as Law Enforcement, no, I stand my ground.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Say's who, some hillbilly from Georgia? GTFO.
You represent your profession admirably
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You represent your profession admirably
you know whose side he'd be on during the boogaloo
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You represent your profession admirably
That's your go to victim mentality when someone doesn't agree with you, see your original response Roscoe.

And this is why we have the bull**** laws that we do.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
you know whose side he'd be on during the boogaloo
Indeed
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strong derail but i want to learn to shoot at distances greater than 400 yards. should I go for 270 win 6.5cm or something else
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Let's make it clear, I am entitled to have my own opinion which is quite on par with most that I know, I am not for infringing on anyone's second amendment rights. Didn't mean to derail thread. I don't agree with what the left is doing with the gun laws in my state, but there are some things that I do agree with.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
you know whose side he'd be on during the boogaloo
So your an us vs them fella?
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Originally Posted By KramericaInd⏩
strong derail but i want to learn to shoot at distances greater than 400 yards. should I go for 270 win 6.5cm or something else
6.5 CM makes shooting out to 1000 yds stupid easy.
Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Let's make it clear, I am entitled to have my own opinion which is quite on par with most that I know, I am not for infringing on anyone's second amendment rights. Didn't mean to derail thread. I don't agree with what the left is doing with the gun laws in my state, but there are some things that I do agree with.
If the police opposed infringements instead of demanding exceptions to them we wouldn't have infringements.
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post 1595060871 01-06-2020, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Not the same gun. Farley linked the 16"
Yeah but the one I posted is painted like an American flag
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
6.5 CM makes shooting out to 1000 yds stupid easy.




If the police opposed infringements instead of demanding exceptions to them we wouldn't have infringements.
I really don't see the Police demanding anything in all due respect. It's the politicians who make these draconian laws that don't make sense. Do I have some bias because of stuff that I have seen, absolutely, but that's on me. Do I think everyone is entitled to conceal carry, absolutely not. I am a proud card carrying NRA member by the way. I don't live in a concealed carry state so it's hard for me to see and compare your point of view if you do.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Do I think everyone is entitled to conceal carry, absolutely not. I am a proud card carrying NRA member by the way.
lol

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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
We've had this debate before. It's not the cops fault that libs pass laws that endanger everyone. Yes, mag bans are horrific ideas. But it isn't like he signed off on the law. Is he supposed to carry low caps all day in solidarity?
Except for in his own post he said he disagreed with Farley’s opinion that people should have access to >10 round mags, just like cops. So, he expressed support of the idea that he should be allowed >10 round mags, and the peasants shouldn’t. No, he didn’t write the law, but he pretty clearly articulated support of it.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I really don't see the Police demanding anything in all due respect. It's the politicians who make these draconian laws that don't make sense. Do I have some bias because of stuff that I have seen, absolutely, but that's on me. Do I think everyone is entitled to conceal carry, absolutely not. I am a proud card carrying NRA member by the way. I don't live in a concealed carry state so it's hard for me to see and compare your point of view if you do.
Everyone who is an adult and not a criminal has a right to bear arms and carry a gun. Period.

Your police unions carve exceptions for you. This isn't really debatable. Want to do something about these "draconian laws that don't make any sense"?

You can, right now. Talk to your fellow officers and organize. Being an NRA member while you denigrate the rights of law-abiding citizens doesn't earn any points.

I'm glad you like guns, maybe start liking gun rights too.
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post 1595063011 01-06-2020, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Everyone who is an adult and not a criminal has a right to bear arms and carry a gun. Period.

Your police unions carve exceptions for you. This isn't really debatable. Want to do something about these "draconian laws that don't make any sense"?

You can, right now. Talk to your fellow officers and organize. Being an NRA member while you denigrate the rights of law-abiding citizens doesn't earn any points.

I'm glad you like guns, maybe start liking gun rights too.
I love guns. I am not denigrating anything. You are making that up in your head. I have spoken to fellow officers, there are certain people who shouldn't conceal carry, period. Mentally ill, substance abusers, etc. Now if you agree that they have a fundamental right to access to firearms then you are part of the problem. It's not so black and white. There are grey areas with gun rights.
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Originally Posted By JMath⏩
Except for in his own post he said he disagreed with Farley’s opinion that people should have access to >10 round mags, just like cops. So, he expressed support of the idea that he should be allowed >10 round mags, and the peasants shouldn’t. No, he didn’t write the law, but he pretty clearly articulated support of it.
No I never specifically said handgun owners shouldn't have access to regular capacity magazines, I worded it incorrectly, that I support, it's ridiculous to restrict the magazine capacity.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I love guns. I am not denigrating anything. You are making that up in your head. I have spoken to fellow officers, there are certain people who shouldn't conceal carry, period. Mentally ill, substance abusers, etc. Now if you agree that they have a fundamental right to access to firearms then you are part of the problem. It's not so black and white. There are grey areas with gun rights.
Do you understand due process?

The mentally ill and substance abusers should have their rights removed through due process, not arbitrarily.

Instead, the rights of all [insert tyrannical regime]'s citizens are removed without due process.

If you have people in society who are too dangerous to be around arms, then they're too dangerous to be in society with 430 mn of them.

The solution is to do something about these individuals, not to punish everyone else.
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post 1595064351 01-06-2020, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Do you understand due process?

The mentally ill and substance abusers should have their rights removed through due process, not arbitrarily.

Instead, the rights of all [insert tyrannical regime]'s citizens are removed without due process.

If you have people in society who are too dangerous to be around arms, then they're too dangerous to be in society with 430 mn of them.

The solution is to do something about these individuals, not to punish everyone else.
I am not disagreeing with you. Come talk to me when you have witnessed a shotgun suicide to the head.
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And then "substance abusers" being denied their Rights turns into having arms confiscated and living out life as a prohibited person who can't vote over marijuana. Because that makes sense.

News flash, smoking pot doesn't mean you are unsuitable for possessing arms.

Meanwhile, in some (many?) states, it's legal to drink alcohol while carrying a gun. Also legal to consume a little alcohol and drive a car on a public street. But don't you dare possess the devil's lettuce in your pocket or we're coming for your guns.

This all makes sense.
Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I am not disagreeing with you. Come talk to me when you have witnessed a shotgun suicide to the head.
You believe denying people their Right to concealed carry will prevent this? Interesting
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I love guns. I am not denigrating anything. You are making that up in your head.I have spoken to fellow officers, there are certain people who shouldn't conceal carry, period. Mentally ill, substance abusers, etc. Now if you agree that they have a fundamental right to access to firearms then you are part of the problem. It's not so black and white. There are grey areas with gun rights.



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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I am not disagreeing with you. Come talk to me when you have witnessed a shotgun suicide to the head.
Sounds like a fast way to go. Not sure what that has to do with lawful carry. Meanwhile, denying law-abiding citizens the right to carry makes it easier for those shotgun suicides to take innocent people with them.

There are 420 mn guns in the US.

You can order a black powder revolver in the mail if you want to off yourself. Take them out of society either temporarily or permanently but understand that the gun isn't making a difference.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Yeah, I disagree with you on that but like you said, that's a whole another thread my friend. =)
Cops should not get anything non-cops can’t get. We don’t want to devolve into a police state.
Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
The debate is whether cops should be able to personally own the things we can't, not what they carry on the job. His personal purchasing rights should be the same as the rest of us and the only reason you would disagree with that is if you're a thin blue line bootlicker.
Good starting place, but I’d for sure prefer they not have anything your banker can’t have even while on the job.
Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
The only purchasing right I have in my state is having normal capacity magazines, and concealed carry ability. As far as what we can own, it's the same as what the citizens can own.
Cops are citizens.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
But to think you should have the same rights as Law Enforcement, no, I stand my ground.
ah, the cop who thinks he's above the people. No better than the politicians who pass the laws.
Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I really don't see the Police demanding anything in all due respect.
you don't see it? but according to your above post you feel entitled to it.
Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I am not disagreeing with you. Come talk to me when you have witnessed a shotgun suicide to the head.
omg did you cry? Such a dumb, irrelevant, emotional statement.
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Reading the responses in this thread...



Have fun shooting your 22's at soda cans yelling Murica while you fly your confederate flag. You have no idea what it takes to do our job, what we deal with.
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Well, I really appreciate the thread derail.

Anyway, available to answer any questions about getting a handgun for yourself!
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
ah, the cop who thinks he's above the people. No better than the politicians who pass the laws.


you don't see it? but according to your above post you feel entitled to it.


omg did you cry? Such a dumb, irrelevant, emotional statement.
Ah it's Punicepts, I feel great in saying this, GO PHUCK YOURSELF. You know nothing about law enforcement, your a blow hard basement dwelling mod. You are a has been, a nobody really.

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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Well, I really appreciate the thread derail.

Anyway, available to answer any questions about getting a handgun for yourself!
Hey bro, wasn't my fault, your cop hating minions had to chime in their 2 cents.
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
providing a step by step guide for incels on how to buy a firearm. what could go wrong.
maybe anti gun snowflakes will get negged
Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
I have a Glock 19 but really want to throw a revolver into the mix. Unsure of caliber and model. Part of me really wants a Ruger SP101 or Taurus Magnum with a 4” or shorter barrel. Feedback?
revolvers are fun. im partial to smith and wesson, especially the 29/629 in .44 mag. a .357 mag might be a little more practical because ammo is cheaper though. that being said, colt is going to be building pythons again soon, which is a bad ass .357 mag revolver.

one thing to keep in mind though, revolvers are susceptible to timing issues, meaning the cylinder can become misaligned with the barrel. supposedly ruger makes the most reliable revolvers, but personally i dont find them as aesthetic as smith and wesson
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Hey bro, wasn't my fault, your cop hating minions had to chime in their 2 cents.
Thinking that the police shouldn't be exempt from laws affecting the rights of individual citizens isn't hating on the police.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Hey bro, wasn't my fault, your cop hating minions had to chime in their 2 cents.
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