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post 1599113261 03-05-2020, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By pogue⏩
Yes, I remember a time before the internet. We connected to BBSes (bulletin board systems) through dialup modems and played Doom and other online games with each other. Then in the mid 90s, the internet came around and I signed up and got on board. Random story: I used to be really good friends with napster, the guy who wrote the napster P2P software that started the online piracy revolution.
IRL I take it? Or do you mean “really good internet friends”?

Also the irony of calling this thread the information thread, the other thread misinformation, and then claiming N95 masks don’t work. Strong everything
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i was part of a military quarantine working with other national agencies on this ,

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Originally Posted By Witrebel⏩
Also the irony of calling this thread the information thread, the other thread misinformation, and then claiming N95 masks don’t work. Strong everything
This is why I only post in the other thread.
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Originally Posted By Witrebel⏩
IRL I take it? Or do you mean “really good internet friends”?

Also the irony of calling this thread the information thread, the other thread misinformation, and then claiming N95 masks don’t work. Strong everything
No, this was all online. Also, still waiting on the evidence for the N95 masks. Scientific data - anything. So far, no one has provided it.
Originally Posted By casiNo.⏩
i was part of a military quarantine working with other national agencies on this ,

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Do you have any proof of this?
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Originally Posted By pogue⏩
No, this was all online. Also, still waiting on the evidence for the N95 masks. Scientific data - anything. So far, no one has provided it.



Do you have any proof of this?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4868605/This one appears to say a surgical mask is as good as an N95 for prevention of droplet transmission. So this source would indicate that a better phrasing would be “you don’t need an N95 mask to prevent droplet exposure, and surgical mask will work just fine”

I wonder if there are any studies that show what a face covering of any kind does to the number of times you touch your mouth and nose? Maybe there is even carry over to how many times you touch your eyes? Or is that too much speculation for the information thread?
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Originally Posted By pogue⏩
No, this was all online. Also, still waiting on the evidence for the N95 masks. Scientific data - anything. So far, no one has provided it.
I take it the CDC page I linked wasn't enough then? Lol



I think I'll trust them on this one. After all, it's what they're telling healthcare personnel to wear when dealing directly with patients infected with the virus, so they're clearly effective.
How dare you!

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WOW. I just found out that the germ-x 2 liter bottle (hand soap without need for water) I've been using at home expired in December 2016. 3 YEARS AGO.

I pulled out the one I bought a few weeks ago and it has tons of what looks like bubbles in it. The expired one has no bubbles.

Fortunately before I ate anything I washed my hands, but when I was doing chores around the house and just touching stuff, I've been using the expired germ-x. Hopefully it still disinfected..

Also is it true that this stuff only works for 2 minutes?
Monster0ultra self proclaimed "Chad" face pic looks like vtech school shooter: https://i.imgur.com/z2m6Why.jpg
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Holy phuck a Corona victim died in a popular Raleigh restaurant last night.

That's not good!!!
You need proof brah. Preferably directly from Dr. Tedros mouth. Absent that, I believe the rule is- pics or it didn't happen.
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SARS-COV-2 virus global fatality rate: 3.4%
Influenza virus fatality rate: 0.1%

The SARS-COV-2 virus is 34 times more deadly than Influenza.

SARS-Cov from 2003 fatality rate: 9.6%
SARS-CoV from 2003 was 96 times more deadly than Influenza
Still no vaccine for SARS-CoV from 2003 (17 years). The 'vaccine' unfortunately caused respiratory failure in mice.





'S' Type SARS-CoV-2 (2019) = original type and less virulent and contagious and most common
'L' Type SARS-CoV-2 (2019) = mutated type and more virulent and contagious and less common

A man has recently tested positive in the United States for BOTH types of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Each mutation of the SARS-CoV-2 virus requires a NEW and DIFFERENT vaccine.







Most important part about Official Case numbers and Stats:

The cases you are seeing today happened 10 to 27 days ago (incubation period).

What is happening now, we will know in 28 days.
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Originally Posted By pogue⏩
No, this was all online. Also, still waiting on the evidence for the N95 masks. Scientific data - anything. So far, no one has provided it.



Do you have any proof of this?
Here is your proof, they specifically tested against SARS. Read the report if you want.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article...308/cix681.pdf
N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks Four RCTs compared protection from N95 and medical masks against different clinical or laboratory-confirmed outcomes [24–27]. Of these, 3 [24–26] specified rPPE use throughout the work shift. Compared to medical masks, N95 respirators conferred significant protection against self-reported CRI (RR  =  0.47; 95% CI: 0.36–0.62) (Figure  3A), but evidence of superiority against ILI was limited (RR  =  0.59; 95% CI: 0.271.28) (Figure 3B). Meta-analysis indicated statistically significant superiority of N95 respirators over medical masks against laboratory-confirmed upper respiratory tract bacterial colonization (BRI) (RR  =  0.46; 95% CI: 0.34–0.62) (Figure  4A) but not laboratory-confirmed influenza (RR  =  0.84; 95% CI: 0.36–1.99) (Figure  4B) or other viral infections (RR = 0.78; 95% CI: 0.54–1.14) (Figure 4C).
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome

Eight case-control [29–36] (Table S4) and 4 cohort studies [2022, 37] (Table S5) assessed the effectiveness of rPPE in protecting HCWs from SARS infection (Appendix B, Table 2).With one exception [30], case-control studies consistently reported a protective effect of medical masks against SARS[31, 32, 34] (Appendix B, Table  2). Compared to “no rPPE” controls, N95 respirators conferred protection against confirmed SARSCoV infection in 2 of 3 case-control studies [32, 33]; no protective effect against SARS was reported for disposable [29, 34], cotton [35], or paper [32] masks (Appendix B, Table 2).
T his systematic review and meta-analysis quantified the protective effect of facemasks and respirators against respiratory infections among healthcare workers. Relevant articles were retrieved from Pubmed, EMBASE, and Web of Science. Meta-analyses were conducted to calculate pooled estimates.Meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials (RCTs) indicated a protective effect of masks and respirators against clinical respiratory illness (CRI) (risk ratio [RR]  =  0.59; 95% confidence interval [CI]:0.46–0.77) and influenza-like illness (ILI) (RR  =  0.34; 95% CI:0.14–0.82). Compared to masks, N95 respirators conferred superior protection against CRI (RR  =  0.47; 95% CI: 0.36–0.62) and laboratory-confirmed bacterial (RR  =  0.46; 95% CI: 0.34–0.62), but not viral infections or ILI. Meta-analysis of observational studies provided evidence of a protective effect of masks (OR  =  0.13; 95% CI: 0.03–0.62) and respirators (OR  =  0.12; 95% CI: 0.06–0.26) against severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). This systematic review and meta-analysis supports the use of respiratory protection.However, the existing evidence is sparse and findings are inconsistent within and across studies. Multicentre RCTs with standardized protocols conducted outside epidemic periods would help to clarify the circumstances under which the use of masks or respirators is most warranted.
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This thread is horrible. Also why is the old thread stickied even though it’s closed and the #2 thread isn’t stickied?
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Trump and all these politicians are doing townhalls. I have to think they wouldn't be if this thing was turning us into the Walking Dead.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Trump and all these politicians are doing townhalls. I have to think they wouldn't be if this thing was turning us into the Walking Dead.
The Communist Party of Vietnam needs to share their 'cure' and 'containment strategies'.

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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
Here is your proof, they specifically tested against SARS. Read the report if you want.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article...308/cix681.pdf
it only helps if you're already sick brah, that sketchy-looking guy said

ITT, pogue finds out the other thread wasn't actually that crazy. Also, nurses complaining that they're being denied PPE and pulled out of quarantine early to cover staff shortages, including at the hospital at the center of the Washington outbreak.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/u...us-nurses.html

I'm being careful to post reputable sources - as I always have been.
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
You need proof brah. Preferably directly from Dr. Tedros mouth. Absent that, I believe the rule is- pics or it didn't happen.
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic but this/threads have become infested with people who believe everything our government is telling us. Critical thinking is dead.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
So apparently in NC this is going to be treated with kid gloves and no enforced quarantines.

I'm just watching WRAL 6pm and the advice is to 'just stay home if your symptoms are mild.'

The person that caught it in Washington and came back had a lot of interaction with the public after he got back, including going to church and out to eat, and little to nothing is being done
Argentina scoured the country to find everybody within reach of that guy on the flight from Milan and isolate them. There's a story about a ski instructor in local news and how he came home early from working the season in Italy to try to be safe and ended up isolated in Bariloch because he was accidentally sitting next to Patient Zero in first class.

My reading of the NY statute is that before they'll issue a legal quarantine order - which is a criminal offense to violate - you first must be subject to a complaint that you are behaving in a way that endangers others. In other words, you have to first be told you're sick and to stay home, then someone who knows you're sick has to notify the health authorities that you aren't isolating and they must investigate like a barking dog complaint.

This gonna be good.
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1st case reported in Colorado.

Not even worried.
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The "conspiracy" thread needs to die and just put everything in this one.


This thing is just spreading. I know the lawyer that got it in NYC and he rides the subway to work. NYC is gonna get wrecked.
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So just curious, since most of us will continue to go to the gym, has anyone taken any other precautions that they would recommend?
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Originally Posted By BuckNakedinBama⏩
Not the flu - he tested positive for COVID 19.

I know him personally. I don't ride the subway with him but I know an attorney who does. You want me to have a source on something I know personally?
No srs bro. We appreciate the info. Stay safe.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...ihms766724.pdf
Abstract
The emergence of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS)-CoV underscores the threat of cross-species transmission events leading to outbreaks in humans. In this study, we examine the disease potential for SARSlike CoVs currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations.Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild type backbone can efficiently utilize multiple ACE2 receptor orthologs, replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells, and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV.Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from CoVs utilizing the novel spike protein. Importantly, based on these findings, we synthetically rederived...
Is there someone qualified to read this paper and explain it? Seems interesting...



Also, stay safe Boston Crew.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...virus/2086462/
Following a meeting with Biogen employees in Boston last week, a number of attendees reported varying degrees of flu-like symptoms. Some attendees have been confirmed with influenza and three attendees have tested positive for COVID-19 to date," Biogen said in a statement.
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Frankly I'm surprised that no one is talking about the possible spread of the virus through mosquitoes during the "warmer months".
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36 year old recovered dies from virus due to it causing nervous system damage inb4 lots drop
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Originally Posted By Witrebel⏩
No srs bro. We appreciate the info. Stay safe.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...ihms766724.pdf

Is there someone qualified to read this paper and explain it? Seems interesting...

That is an extremely good paper. Essentially they called this 4-5 years ago. Which is normal because we have papers all the time warning us about every disease emerging.

This paper though is highly relevant. Nice find.

It also states the Ebola vaccine is not effective. Which makes sense, we got that info from China a month ago. However remdisivir an AIDS treatment has been working.

Here is the spike protein they refer to that certain treatments cannot inhibit and prevent binding to ACE2



Binding of the viral S protein S1 domain to Vero-E6 cells, a monkey kidney cell line known to permit SARS-CoV replication, is blocked by a soluble form of ACE-2.1,7 In addition, SARS-CoV-mediated infection and cytopathicity are inhibited in Vero-E6 cells by antibodies directed toward ACE-2.7
https://www.rndsystems.com/resources...tor-identified

I would assume this was a starting point for a vaccine
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My son's class has only 14 kids. 13 of them were home yesterday. This is going to affect a lot of people whether the virus hits them directly or not.

Auckland, NZ- Tool concert revealed to have been attended by man infected with COVID-19.

Stay safe boyos.
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Here's another study saying masks help prevent infection.

The OP still lists masks as not helpful at the end.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440799/
Principal Findings

All types of masks reduced aerosol exposure, relatively stable over time, unaffected by duration of wear or type of activity, but with a high degree of individual variation. Personal respirators were more efficient than surgical masks, which were more efficient than home-made masks. Regardless of mask type, children were less well protected. Outward protection (mask wearing by a mechanical head) was less effective than inward protection (mask wearing by healthy volunteers).

Conclusions/Significance

Any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level, in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence, personal respirators providing most protection. Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmission.
I'm not trying to jump on pogue, but if this is the information thread, we should have accurate information in the OP.

We can all now ignore Jerome Adams, our inexperienced, unqualified, appointed US Surgeon General from Indiana and anybody else (CDC) proposing the myth that masks don't help.

I understand healthcare workers need them, but don't lie to the public.
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For Metroins.

February 24th 2020
Comparative genetic analysis of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2) receptor ACE2 in different populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1


Last Paragraph:
The East Asian populations have much higher AFs in the eQTL variants associated with higher ACE2 expression in tissues (Fig. 1c), which may suggest different susceptibility or response to 2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2 from different populations under the similar conditions.

Figure 1c:
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Originally Posted By tecom⏩
For Metroins.

February 24th 2020
Comparative genetic analysis of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2) receptor ACE2 in different populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1


Last Paragraph:
The East Asian populations have much higher AFs in the eQTL variants associated with higher ACE2 expression in tissues (Fig. 1c), which may suggest different susceptibility or response to 2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2 from different populations under the similar conditions.

Figure 1c:
heard that about a month ago or so
Hoping it’s true
Comparing Italy’s death #s with south Korea’s doesn’t support it though
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India just got the virus.... things are likely to get very ugly over there

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