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post 1605343821 05-19-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx
Reports said people had it as early as january and even december.

Some people i know had flu like symptoms in January, went to the hospital, and got sent home.

There are tons of these stories.

If this virus has been here since January(even December), then this would be extremely widespread at this point, since this is a "very contagious" virus. Right?
And now those stories finish with, but my antibody test was negative

I don't understand, I coughed twice on December 17th, how could I not have had covid?


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Originally Posted By irollurmom
Hmm...why the cherrypick? Can't it be both?



They have the 6th most powerful military in the world LOL. They could have utilized it if they needed to.

Also, I guarantee that I made more money in the first quarter of 2019 than you did in the whole year.
"They could have used it"....yeah except they didnt have to dumbass that's the whole point.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...few-ideas-why/

66% of NYC cases are from people being locked indoors with their families but let's lock everyone down!

Sorry are we in 2019 or 2020? Why are you bringing up your pay from over 1yr ago? UIcel detected.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
don't you know? Miscers have more knowledge than the researchers with multiple years of experience and millions of dollars in research funding. Get with the program boyo
Expert published studies in Nature can't hold a candle to a random miscer who makes everything up as he goes
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
Clearly you of all people, whom I doubt has any experience in scientific research, surely knows more than them. Despite this going from an unheard of virus to infecting nearly every country in the world in a span of a few months, the experts can't ever be wrong about something initially.



Do you know how peer-reviewed research is conducted?
so why are you touting their prospects if you'll be wrong too?
so far the people that aren't buying this bullchit have been right about
1. death manipulation
2. tyranny testbeds
3. severity
4. made in a fukin LAB
5. fauci's full of chit
6. you're a queer who likes to drain old men's balls
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Those aren't supposed to be the same numbers. Probably the current covid deaths are under reported (and, BTW, 'flu deaths' are greatly over estimated)

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...tPeo1zXojlvcxo

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...ociated-Deaths



I don't recall reporting any neg comments.

But if you're in the habit of leaving comments like that maybe you should reevaluate your ability to form cogent arguments that stand on their own merits instead of whatever it is you do instead?
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That's certainly a cogent argument that supports your claims. Better than I expected you to produce, actually.

Congrats, you're progressing!
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
That's certainly a cogent argument that supports your claims. Better than I expected you to produce, actually.

Congrats, you're progressing!
Didn't you know that because scientists are occasionally wrong, random people who barely passed HS science class know more than them in subjects they've studied their whole lives?
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Originally Posted By Heaney
"They could have used it"....yeah except they didnt have to dumbass that's the whole point.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...few-ideas-why/

66% of NYC cases are from people being locked indoors with their families but let's lock everyone down!

Sorry are we in 2019 or 2020? Why are you bringing up your pay from over 1yr ago? UIcel detected.
You seem to misunderstand me. I was saying that they have a fully capable military because you seem to be under the impression that they don't have a good enough military to utilize. I was simply pointing out that they do, in fact, have a very strong military.
And they didn't have to because, like I've stated before, they are a country with an entire population that's half of a single Chinese province.

I brought up my 2019 income because I just filed my taxes on them and to state that I made enough to live on for roughly two years without having to take on a single project in the interim. Sure I pay into EI, but why would I bother when I don't need to?
Originally Posted By HairyWBush
so why are you touting their prospects if you'll be wrong too?
so far the people that aren't buying this bullchit have been right about
1. death manipulation
2. tyranny testbeds
3. severity
4. made in a fukin LAB
5. fauci's full of chit
6. you're a queer who likes to drain old men's balls
Where are you getting your sources from?
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
You seem to misunderstand me. I was saying that they have a fully capable military because you seem to be under the impression that they don't have a good enough military to utilize. I was simply pointing out that they do, in fact, have a very strong military.
And they didn't have to because, like I've stated before, they are a country with an entire population that's half of a single Chinese province.

I brought up my 2019 income because I just filed my taxes on them and to state that I made enough to live on for roughly two years without having to take on a single project in the interim. Sure I pay into EI, but why would I bother when I don't need to?



Where are you getting your sources from?
for?
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush
for?
For all 6 points you made. Tyranny testbeds, made in a lab, fauci is full of ****, etc.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
For all 6 points you made. Tyranny testbeds, made in a lab, fauci is full of ****, etc.
There is literally no point engaging somebody so stupid/bias they claim it was made in a lab.
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Originally Posted By mp83
Didn't you know that because scientists are occasionally wrong, random people who barely passed HS science class know more than them in subjects they've studied their whole lives?
More likely paid off and/or threatened.
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https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...8414171&page=3

Genius Farley1324 claims he was "happy with a C" in a Calculus 1 class in college.

Strong intelligence.

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[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1605346951][URL=https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=178414171&page=3]https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...8414171&page=3[/URL]

Genius Farley1324 claims he was "happy with a C" in a Calculus 1 class in college.

Strong intelligence.

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/10yXFkBJ0MwGQ0/giphy.gif[img][/QUOTE]LOL. You've clearly never taken a college-level calc course then. I'd have been perfectly happy with a C.

Also, how pathetic that you'd go to a different thread and cherrypick a comment because of how mad you are about what he's saying in a completely different topic. Show us how intelligent you really are.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
More likely paid off and/or threatened.
If that happened, it would've leaked by now. Way too many doctors and scientists
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...8414171&page=3

Genius Farley1324 claims he was "happy with a C" in a Calculus 1 class in college.

Strong intelligence.

They dont send their best
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Originally Posted By mp83
If that happened, it would've leaked by now. Way too many doctors and scientists
There've been plenty posted over the last 3 months. But because it's not served on a silver platter from fake news sources it's too much for those incapable of critical thinking.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
There've been plenty posted over the last 3 months. But because it's not served on a silver platter from fake news sources it's too much for those incapable of critical thinking.
post it ITT and we shall see
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
LOL. You've clearly never taken a college-level calc course then. I'd have been perfectly happy with a C.

Also, how pathetic that you'd go to a different thread and cherrypick a comment because of how mad you are about what he's saying in a completely different topic. Show us how intelligent you really are.
He posted a comment right above mine in another thread.

I’m also an Engineer so you do the math cuck.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
post it ITT and we shall see
This isn't where I was going but if you want a reliable source who gives a front to back summary watch this:




For extra credit:

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[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1605348281]He posted a comment right above mine in another thread.

I’m also an Engineer so you do the math cuck.[/QUOTE]Then you definitely didn't get past a C in calc either.

[QUOTE=jamalfudge post_id=1605348361]This isn't where I was going but if you want a reliable source who gives a front to back summary watch this:

[YouTube]jfamdDBoLbg[YouTube]


For extra credit:

[YOUTUBE]U_rqKjVnQOA[YOUTUBE][/QUOTE]cheers. Def not watching the 2 hour one but I'll give the first one a watch.
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Originally Posted By Firefightn24
We have inflated numbers.

NY forced nursing homes to take old people with corona thereby spreading it drastically and inflating the numbers even more.

Oh and proof that most people don't have to worry about it as long as you're not old as phuk.



Open the country.
I remember when I first heard that I was dumbfounded. I thought Cuomo is really trying to kill those seniors.

Dumbest thing I have ever seen.

Did he ever explain why he did that?
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[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1605346951][URL=https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=178414171&page=3]https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...8414171&page=3[/URL]

Genius Farley1324 claims he was "happy with a C" in a Calculus 1 class in college.

Strong intelligence.

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/10yXFkBJ0MwGQ0/giphy.gif[/im][/QUOTE]Completely satisfied with my C in (basic level) college calculus.

Fortunately I don't need to know how to hand calculate the volume that results from rotating a function about the Y axis to get through life.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
For all 6 points you made. Tyranny testbeds, made in a lab, fauci is full of ****, etc.
what would you call the current situation in new york, where there is military, in and out, of a fenced in where NOBODY gives anyone the time of day inquiring about what the **** it is, nobody wants to talk about operation gotham 2020, there is testing going on with the communist china esque surveillance and ratings system, the governor orders every business to bar anyone from walking in without a mask, a simple dog park is closed, the state has had no hope to reopening, cuomo purposely fukked with the nursing homes by discharging hospitalized patients to nursing homes, new york has shown to be practically opposite of what they're reporting, ny/nj fuk with the influenza cases to unleash these impractical draconian rules that are supposed to magically stop this virus from spreading, yet it's sooo contagious we'll have a 2nd wave, Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the use of HCQ in the entire state of New York on March 6. why would you ban something that proves to be fairly effective? hmm
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...bill/6666/texthmm a new order to trace people

ok Fauci. Fauci is a deep state fukin fraud. he has promoted the unhealthy mantra of social distancing/isolation and shutdown since the beginning. he has discontent to anything but a god damn vaccine, including hydroxycloroquine, yet spoke positively about it in 2005 about coronaviruses.https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/...0OP7kSF-DOcoO8
Fauci ALSO has NOT spoken about how to keep yourself healthy during this whole thing, except stay inside, stay isolated, and do as I say and wear a mask. he does not promote the free will of taking vitamins. Vitamins are essential to staying healthy, we all know this. yet here,https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/0...eople-all-day/he tells you howhestays healthy. howhedoesn't get sick.

all signs point towards this thing being made in a lab. the missing chinese lab scientist nobody found, the chinese scientist that was the first to speak up about it, then ordered to silence himself, the ccp covered this whole thing up (https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/s...virus-pandemic) event 201(you're welcome to form your own opinion on that, I don't care), they tell you the thing is not transmitted from animals, but they tell you it came from a bat. Calling you stupid right to your face.

the severity was estimated in the hundreds of thousands, yet they 1. resort to altering deaths. 2. stop reporting OTHER deaths. new Jersey stopped reporting on influenza all together on February 29 of this year. STOPPED. NO REPORTS. NY just drastically dropped off. I guess COVID's the only thing people get in 2020.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5f_6ltv7oI
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Originally Posted By badreligion
The only scientist who has been at the forefront of this is Fauci and he has a less than stellar reputation. Anyone who presents info that contradicts Covid Jesus aka Fauci is lambasted and in some cases censored, I'm looking at you YouTube. As for the whole second wave, there is a lot of talk saying this IS the second wave. As early as November people were going into clinics with flu like symptoms, got tested and it showed they didn't have the flu even though their symptoms copied them. It wasn't until late December, Early January this whole Wuhan Wheezer was discovered but it was most likely infecting people in China as early as October.
Wife and I both had it right around Xmas here in S Cal. I am absolutely sure of it. I know lots of others that had similar symptoms around that time as well.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11
Wife and I both had it right around Xmas here in S Cal. I am absolutely sure of it. I know lots of others that had similar symptoms around that time as well.
Lots of people have said that, taken an antibody test, and come back negative. It's, like, 'a thing' lol
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush
all signs point towards this thing being made in a lab.
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...n-a-lab-rumour

It's a rumour that just won't die. When asked whether the COVID-19 virus was genetically engineered in a lab, scientists have already said "no" rather firmly, but the matter of the new coronavirus' origin is unlikely to be put to rest so easily.

Discussions around this subject have become even more pertinent since US government intelligence officials are reportedly investigating the potential source of the pandemic, focussing on theories that it may have originated in a laboratory, despite all evidence pointing to SARS-CoV-2 not being human-made.

"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse.No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."

Back in late March, we covered a study published in Nature Medicine, in which the researchers investigated the genomic data of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the receptor-binding domain (RBD) sections of the virus - to try and discover how it mutated into the virulent and deadly version we're currently struggling to contain.

As a by-product of their research, they were able to determine that SARS-CoV-2 was not genetically manipulated.

"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," one of the researchers, Scripps Research immunologist Kristian Andersen, said at the time.

"Two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2."

Although it is clear the virus was not created in the lab,
there have been ongoing concerns it may have 'escaped' a research facility, with most of the speculation - understandably - focussed on the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). However, it remains just speculation. The Washington Post recently reported that US embassy officials had safety concerns about the lab back in 2018, and the institute did keep a closely related bat virus - but even that's far from a smoking gun.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the WIV. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2," explains University of Sydney evolutionary virologist, Edward Holmes.

"However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."

Now, it is important to note that viruses can mutate naturally anywhere - in animal hosts, in humans, or even in laboratory cell cultures. Unfortunately, it's difficult to determine where and how the new coronavirus acquired its mutations, although most researchers think the process involved an animal host.

Additionally, researchers are still investigating if the necessary mutations for causing the new disease occurred before or after SARS-CoV-2 made the jump to humans.

The institute at the centre of the controversy has repeatedly denied accusations of being the source of the pandemic. Back in March, head of bat coronavirus research at WIV, Shi Zhengli, explained that when she first received samples from early COVID-19 patients, she immediately did a thorough investigation at her department, finding no match between the viruses her lab had been working on, and COVID-19 patients.

"That really took a load off my mind," she told Scientific American. "I had not slept a wink for days."

What experts do agree on is that a pandemic like this is no surprise. Scientists have been warning governments for years that a new disease was on the horizon, and that many countries were woefully under-prepared.

For example, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci, told the incoming US government administration in January 2017 about the inevitability of a "surprise outbreak", urging them to make preparations.

"We've been aware for some time that another coronavirus, like SARS and MERS before it, could cause a pandemic, and so in many ways, the emergence of a new coronavirus with pandemic potential is not a surprise," explains La Trobe University epidemiologist Hassan Vally.

"We have to be careful to not aid those irresponsibly using this global crisis for political point-scoring by giving any oxygen to these and other rumours."
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Originally Posted By AdamSMW
Imagine being so arrogant and ignorant that you just forget that some people need to put food on the table, pay their rent, internet service, water and electricity and that giving "free money" from the government is a very dangerous solution which cannot last long, imagine being so prone to panic that you think it's worth taking away the freedom of people for a virus that kills less than 1 % of people it infects, imagine being so egoist that you only think of the job you still have while other people lost their jobs and their entire business they worked most of their life to build, stay at home for the next 3 years waiting for your vaccine bro, "just 2 more weeks"
There is a local restaurant here in S Cal that tried to open up for inside diners last Saturday. The Feds came Sunday and shut him down. He said he had no choice as he is days to weeks away from having to close for good. He said he worked his entire life to buy and build the place.

Feels bad man.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...n-a-lab-rumour

It's a rumour that just won't die. When asked whether the COVID-19 virus was genetically engineered in a lab, scientists have already said "no" rather firmly, but the matter of the new coronavirus' origin is unlikely to be put to rest so easily.

Discussions around this subject have become even more pertinent since US government intelligence officials are reportedly investigating the potential source of the pandemic, focussing on theories that it may have originated in a laboratory, despite all evidence pointing to SARS-CoV-2 not being human-made.

"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse.No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."

Back in late March, we covered a study published in Nature Medicine, in which the researchers investigated the genomic data of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the receptor-binding domain (RBD) sections of the virus - to try and discover how it mutated into the virulent and deadly version we're currently struggling to contain.

As a by-product of their research, they were able to determine that SARS-CoV-2 was not genetically manipulated.

"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," one of the researchers, Scripps Research immunologist Kristian Andersen, said at the time.

"Two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2."

Although it is clear the virus was not created in the lab,
there have been ongoing concerns it may have 'escaped' a research facility, with most of the speculation - understandably - focussed on the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). However, it remains just speculation. The Washington Post recently reported that US embassy officials had safety concerns about the lab back in 2018, and the institute did keep a closely related bat virus - but even that's far from a smoking gun.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the WIV. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2," explains University of Sydney evolutionary virologist, Edward Holmes.

"However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."

Now, it is important to note that viruses can mutate naturally anywhere - in animal hosts, in humans, or even in laboratory cell cultures. Unfortunately, it's difficult to determine where and how the new coronavirus acquired its mutations, although most researchers think the process involved an animal host.

Additionally, researchers are still investigating if the necessary mutations for causing the new disease occurred before or after SARS-CoV-2 made the jump to humans.

The institute at the centre of the controversy has repeatedly denied accusations of being the source of the pandemic. Back in March, head of bat coronavirus research at WIV, Shi Zhengli, explained that when she first received samples from early COVID-19 patients, she immediately did a thorough investigation at her department, finding no match between the viruses her lab had been working on, and COVID-19 patients.

"That really took a load off my mind," she told Scientific American. "I had not slept a wink for days."

What experts do agree on is that a pandemic like this is no surprise. Scientists have been warning governments for years that a new disease was on the horizon, and that many countries were woefully under-prepared.

For example, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci, told the incoming US government administration in January 2017 about the inevitability of a "surprise outbreak", urging them to make preparations.

"We've been aware for some time that another coronavirus, like SARS and MERS before it, could cause a pandemic, and so in many ways, the emergence of a new coronavirus with pandemic potential is not a surprise," explains La Trobe University epidemiologist Hassan Vally.

"We have to be careful to not aid those irresponsibly using this global crisis for political point-scoring by giving any oxygen to these and other rumours."
The conspiratard Trumpers won't believe it.
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crazy how freedomcels are still crying about this. if you dont have an essential job then stay home and collect welfare.
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