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post 1610906761 07-17-2020, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli
Could learn the majority of that on YouTube. You are delusional. There is a reason that sector has so many drug abusers, degenerates and fuk tards.
And learn the techniques to apply it? Most guys are still learning how to use a impact driver properly for the first few weeks

I know it's 100 percent troll thread but it's amazing the people who think they can walk on a site and start off right away.

And lol at the YouTube comment. I legit lolled at that
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post 1610906861 07-17-2020, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By batmanman
Lol you'd end up crying after 2 weeks learning a real trade
Yes, because my brain is being unused.
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Originally Posted By Frank
closer to a month, *******
Certain jobs have a steeper learning curve but I definitely don't think the majority require a month. Programming can have a steeper learning curve than something business oriented.
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i'm a filthy dirty refrigeration technician and i promise that you can't learn it in two weeks brotha
post 1610907191 07-17-2020, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli
cpr training, fire science is full of a lot of fluff to my understanding, few more things and you're good to go
Dont get me wrong there is a lot of fluff you learn especially with the certifications. However 2 weeks is absurd. Like I said maybe 2 months. You have to learn every piece of equipment. You have to understand how to use the equipment (saws, rescue tools, air bags, aerial ladder, how to pump, how to hook up hose, turning on a hydrant, gas meters, hazmat equipment, your SCBA/ facepiece, bailout equipment, ladders, etc.) Theres a lot to understand about pump pressures and different factors that could affect the pressure. You have to know the streets if you are a driver. You cant rely on your phone to get you to the call. I could go on and on and I agree there is a lot bull**** but you aren't learning this job and all of the equipment we possibly use in 2 weeks.
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
And learn the techniques to apply it? Most guys are still learning how to use a impact driver properly for the first few weeks

I know it's 100 percent troll thread but it's amazing the people who think they can walk on a site and start off right away.

And lol at the YouTube comment. I legit lolled at that
weeks to learn impact driver? LMFAO. And you say I'm trolling?

100%, I could learn the majority of what to do and be competent. Of course I will have questions, and require to do a little bit of research but in 2 weeks you'd be functioning to a pretty good level
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli
Yes, because my brain is being unused.
post 1610907681 07-17-2020, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
Dont get me wrong there is a lot of fluff you learn especially with the certifications. However 2 weeks is absurd. Like I said maybe 2 months. You have to learn every piece of equipment. You have to understand how to use the equipment (saws, rescue tools, air bags, aerial ladder, how to pump, how to hook up hose, turning on a hydrant, gas meters, hazmat equipment, your SCBA/ facepiece, bailout equipment, ladders, etc.) Theres a lot to understand about pump pressures and different factors that could affect the pressure. You have to know the streets if you are a driver. You cant rely on your phone to get you to the call. I could go on and on and I agree there is a lot bull**** but you aren't learning this job and all of the equipment we possibly use in 2 weeks.
2 weeks is a fairly long time bro, I've done project management courses where I've learnt and passed in 2 days. In 2 weeks you'd be surprised at what can you learn.
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Just LOL @ how rustled OP is making y'all. +1 for OP being right.

For specifics ITT tho:
-Certain IT stuff like systems engineering takes a huge amount of experience. For coding jobs, you can get away with 1 language and 2 week it if you're not low IQ and bad at math/logic. Being responsible for a system requires you to know a lot across multiple disciplines.
-As much hate as lawyers get, they have to know so much BS and do so much BS paperwork. I'm glad that lawyers exist so that I can pay someone to handle that stuff so that I don't have to.
-Firefighting definitely needs more than 2 weeks because if your skills aren't up to par, you might get yourself or your team killed.
-Just, fukin LOL at the cop. Almost every real fire is dangerous but way less than 1% of cop calls are dangerous. If a cop gets killed on the job, that has more do to with bad luck and if the criminal wanted to kill them than the cop's training. Cop is definitely a job that can be 2 weeked.
post 1610910991 07-17-2020, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By mobp
Just LOL @ how rustled OP is making y'all. +1 for OP being right.

For specifics ITT tho:
-Certain IT stuff like systems engineering takes a huge amount of experience. For coding jobs, you can get away with 1 language and 2 week it if you're not low IQ and bad at math/logic. Being responsible for a system requires you to know a lot across multiple disciplines.
-As much hate as lawyers get, they have to know so much BS and do so much BS paperwork. I'm glad that lawyers exist so that I can pay someone to handle that stuff so that I don't have to.
-Firefighting definitely needs more than 2 weeks because if your skills aren't up to par, you might get yourself or your team killed.
-Just, fukin LOL at the cop. Almost every real fire is dangerous but way less than 1% of cop calls are dangerous. If a cop gets killed on the job, that has more do to with bad luck and if the criminal wanted to kill them than the cop's training. Cop is definitely a job that can be 2 weeked.
Very much depends on the coding job. HTML or web design? Sure... but learning an OO language without any prior knowledge to any decent level of competency is not possible in 2 weeks, even at a basic level. Also, it depends on the kind of development role, for example a full stack developer is going to take much more experience, many software engineers are also required to know their way around architecture and some system admin functions depending on the company...

It's easy to make blanket statements about jobs, but it really depends on the specifics. 'Programmer' is a broad term that really contains a chit ton of different disciplines with varying difficulty. The same can probably be said about most disciplines.
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Originally Posted By mobp
Just LOL @ how rustled OP is making y'all. +1 for OP being right.

For specifics ITT tho:
-Certain IT stuff like systems engineering takes a huge amount of experience. For coding jobs, you can get away with 1 language and 2 week it if you're not low IQ and bad at math/logic. Being responsible for a system requires you to know a lot across multiple disciplines.
-As much hate as lawyers get, they have to know so much BS and do so much BS paperwork. I'm glad that lawyers exist so that I can pay someone to handle that stuff so that I don't have to.
-Firefighting definitely needs more than 2 weeks because if your skills aren't up to par, you might get yourself or your team killed.
-Just, fukin LOL at the cop. Almost every real fire is dangerous but way less than 1% of cop calls are dangerous. If a cop gets killed on the job, that has more do to with bad luck and if the criminal wanted to kill them than the cop's training. Cop is definitely a job that can be 2 weeked.
That's all I am saying. 2 weeks is probably not enough especially when there is people's lives on the line. I can see a month or two which honestly is fair.
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Originally Posted By mobp
Just LOL @ how rustled OP is making y'all. +1 for OP being right.

For specifics ITT tho:
-Certain IT stuff like systems engineering takes a huge amount of experience. For coding jobs, you can get away with 1 language and 2 week it if you're not low IQ and bad at math/logic. Being responsible for a system requires you to know a lot across multiple disciplines.
You can get by as a JR dev with just those skills alone IMO. I've mentored up people that slacked off and did zero programming in college, but I'd say it could be done in more like 2 months rather than 2 weeks. This is given that they are naturally a good learner and are willing to get better, as well as not being socially retarded and able to ask good questions. And that is just for being a competent JR dev of course.
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I agree mostly. Tradies is something young teenagers become quite competent at, so trades could definitely be learned in 2 weeks or maybe less and I think most people would agree on that. Firefighter, honesty give me a 1 hour crash course and I would be ready to perform most of their duties.
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Opie what’s your current job title? If you’re able to learn 90% of jobs in 2 weeks, you surely have a high aptitude and cognitive ability far beyond most so much so you likely have innovation skills and should be founder and CEO of a tech company...especially being a former software dev. Almost sounds like a gmiscer thread, but you rustled people with your replies into another dimension and gave me the lolz...as a software engineer you’re right, most jobs are menial and don’t have a huge skill ceiling...most jobs getting axed during covid are exactly these ones that anyone can pick up quickly.
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Originally Posted By dasitma
I agree mostly. Tradies is something young teenagers become quite competent at, so trades could definitely be learned in 2 weeks or maybe less and I think most people would agree on that. Firefighter, honesty give me a 1 hour crash course and I would be ready to perform most of their duties.
Yet the trades and firefighters are claiming atleast a month.
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Originally Posted By surfbumb
Opie what’s your current job title? If you’re able to learn 90% of jobs in 2 weeks, you surely have a high aptitude and cognitive ability far beyond most so much so you likely have innovation skills and should be founder and CEO of a tech company...especially being a former software dev. Almost sounds like a gmiscer thread, but you rustled people with your replies into another dimension and gave me the lolz...as a software engineer you’re right, most jobs are menial and don’t have a huge skill ceiling...most jobs getting axed during covid are exactly these ones that anyone can pick up quickly.
lolz, I'm in the 9/10 crew srs, not claiming to be anything gifted. I've worked in various sectors and hate everything srs. My last role was working project manager contract but I still am not happy with anything I've encountered in life. No degree though, just got certs

Obviously your life shouldn't be about doing the most complex thing, do what makes u happy
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How are you going to do engineering in 2 weeks
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli
lolz, I'm in the 9/10 crew srs, not claiming to be anything gifted. I've worked in various sectors and hate everything srs. My last role was working project manager contract but I still am not happy with anything I've encountered in life. No degree though, just got certs

Obviously your life shouldn't be about doing the most complex thing, do what makes u happy
Understood, 9/10 crew, Mensa ability, so when did you become unemployed? Most software dev/engineering positions require at least a 4-year stem degree before you can even get an interview; before you’re hired they perform the background check, so are you frauding about being a former dev? If not what company were you employed at?
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Originally Posted By surfbumb
Understood, 9/10 crew, Mensa ability, so when did you become unemployed? Most software dev/engineering positions require at least a 4-year stem degree before you can even get an interview; before you’re hired they perform the background check, so are you frauding about being a former dev? If not what company did were you employed at?
I worked for a small in house agency that was happy to take me under their wing. I showed them my github portfolio which is how I got the interview. To gain knowledge at the time I relied on udemy, lynda and other resources mainly at the time, i even read books. I was pretty much junior level. This was years ago mane. During the interview they'll test you to see if you can really code to weed out the chit tier people.

There are goverbment apprenticeship programs which can even help u become software engineers.
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I’ve been deliberately trying to succession plan for my retirement for over a year and still haven’t found anyone that the board is comfortable with

I mean even if I didn’t retire would be nice to be able to take some leave but no
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson
How are you going to do engineering in 2 weeks
everything is on the Internet
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Originally Posted By surfbumb
Opie what’s your current job title? If you’re able to learn 90% of jobs in 2 weeks, you surely have a high aptitude and cognitive ability far beyond most so much so you likely have innovation skills and should be founder and CEO of a tech company...especially being a former software dev. Almost sounds like a gmiscer thread, but you rustled people with your replies into another dimension and gave me the lolz...as a software engineer you’re right, most jobs are menial and don’t have a huge skill ceiling...most jobs getting axed during covid are exactly these ones that anyone can pick up quickly.
Agree. Been a good thread.

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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
I’ve been deliberately trying to succession plan for my retirement for over a year and still haven’t found anyone that the board is comfortable with

I mean even if I didn’t retire would be nice to be able to take some leave but no
You can't even get them to agree on an heir for you to train? That is lame. What if you agree to go "consultant" the first year and act as the new guy's training wheels?
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On the surface, day to day, my job may seem easy. But delve deep and 2 weeks will only scratch the surface.. and that's if you already have a good understanding of hydronic systems, pressure vessels and controls automation.

I say 3 to 6 months I could bring someone completely new and up to speed to the point where they could operate independently.
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