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post 1640591393 06-10-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen⏩
The woman is not at fault in any way. That officer should be fired but since he's a cop in a backwater chithole he'll keep the job and inbred moonshine enthusiasts will support him.

I support cops in most cases but this video clearly shows he's a retard who shouldn't have a badge. I have no idea why some people support this sort of thing. This hurts cops, it makes people hate them and distrust them, it harms the community. If that woman and her baby died it would be a national incident and if she was black there would be riots that destroy entire cities.
Because everything becomes a political thing in this country. Being against cops is liberals and I’m conservative so I support the cop. Unfortunately that’s how a lot of people think
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Originally Posted By TrustTheScience⏩
This chit makes me not care about libs getting the police defunded

On a car group I'm on there are regular posts of cops killing speeders with pit maneuvers, but at least they didn't break the speed limit again!

The Texas cops who don't gaf about speeding on the toll roads are the only road cops who are bros tbh
Cool, just as long as you have to live were they are defunded and the rest of us don't.

It's almost as if only the bad things get publicized?
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I waited for a spot in a parking lot not blocking traffic, like a few seconds, once when pulled over. The officer was furious.
post 1640596473 06-10-2021, 12:25 PM
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Bootlickers on this site are so pathetic.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
So we're saying the road is badly designed, because it's not reasonable to drive for minutes with your hazards on unable to pull over for a police officer


You have no idea who is in a vehicle or what they might be doing, she could be stalling while swallowing bags of heroin or trying to hide weapons or something
She could be just a citizen trying to do exactly what the law prescribes. Nah. Let's just flip her car and possibly kill her and the her baby. Just to be safe.
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
Soon as he rode up alongside her the first time I woulda pulled over immediately. Basically was just telling her to pull the fk over now.

(no bootlicker)
Psycho cop does this and lady who's probably a nervous wreck is supposed to be reassured that this cop is totally cool? Lol? Idiots here playing "what ifs" thinking its ok to pull a deadly maneuver cos she *might* be hiding drugs....well seeing that **** I DEFINITELY would not be pulling over on a shoulder and would hit a gas station. What if the cop was a fukking psycho? Which he clearly was....
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post 1640604323 06-10-2021, 02:12 PM
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The kicker on this was that after he rolled her car, he didn't rush over to help, he kind of stroll walked over. He didn't ask if she was ok, he immediately wanted to know why she didn't pull over. Then he ordered her to get out instead of waiting for medical attention.

Moving when you're injured can make things a whole lot worse. This cop just wanted to hammer into her that she should have pulled over, he had no concern about her safety whatsoever.

Then again, it's a cop and it's Arkansas. Is anyone really surprised?
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen⏩
The woman is not at fault in any way. That officer should be fired but since he's a cop in a backwater chithole he'll keep the job and inbred moonshine enthusiasts will support him.

I support cops in most cases but this video clearly shows he's a retard who shouldn't have a badge. I have no idea why some people support this sort of thing. This hurts cops, it makes people hate them and distrust them, it harms the community. If that woman and her baby died it would be a national incident and if she was black there would be riots that destroy entire cities.
You're probably right just because it is a backwater chithole.
But if I was her husband, and that guy keeps his job, I will make sure that it "accidentally" happens to him one day on his way home. And I will pay enough so that it never comes back on me.

I don't think he'll keep his job though. Written law is on her side. And these redneck police can't get away with the same chit they used to bc social media.
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She probably said the n word
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Did you not read the law?


U on dat retard time bruh?
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
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Proving my point in post 164

Put acab, BLM, and defund the police aside. Just look at this one specific incident and nothing else. There’s no justification for the officers actions
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
you sound like an antifa loser
The fact that you'd make that assessment based on me not automatically defending the actions of a reckless cop is indicative of your intellectual capacity.

The irony is I'm a gun loving conservative that makes fun of and despises Antifa/liberal ideologies and the like.

You sound like the type of idiot that espouses the importance of freedom, the constitution, muh rights, etc... and then has no problem when undertrained agents of the government (police) sh!t all over people's rights. It's honestly sad.

Your only redeeming quality is that you're a Cowboys fan. But that will only get you so far in life.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
next time pull over
Young man the arkansas law is on her side
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Originally Posted By DTRrex⏩
The fact that you'd make that assessment based on me not automatically defending the actions of a reckless cop is indicative of your intellectual capacity.

The irony is I'm a gun loving conservative that makes fun of and despises Antifa/liberal ideologies and the like.

You sound like the type of idiot that espouses the importance of freedom, the constitution, muh rights, etc... and then has no problem when undertrained agents of the government (police) sh!t all over people's rights. It's honestly sad.

Your only redeeming quality is that you're a Cowboys fan. But that will only get you so far in life.
lmao, who said I made it off that assessment
I just read your emotional anti police rhetoric in multiple posts
Sounds a lot like loser , unemployed, anti establishment Antifa
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Proving my point in post 164

Put acab, BLM, and defund the police aside. Just look at this one specific incident and nothing else. There’s no justification for the officers actions
i did not condone the officers actions
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
lmao, who said I made it off that assessment
I just read your emotional anti police rhetoric in multiple posts
Sounds a lot like loser , unemployed, anti establishment Antifa
Lulz. Being man enough that I don't need my government dictating my safety and security with imbeciles on my tax dollars is an attribute. Sorry you can't say the same.

And if by unemployed loser you mean successful with a healthy 6 fig income, a sr. Management position in a stem field, and a robust investment/retirement portfolio. Then yeah. If you like reading my posts so much go back and look at how many Misc'ers I used to coach on how to climb the corporate ladder and increase their income and earning potential. You're seriously in over your head here and looking dumber by the post.

This woman is 100% going to win a lawsuit. She followed the law. Tax paying citizens shouldn't be punished for that cop's ineptitude.

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Talked about this in some IG pages and was astounded at peoples reactions.

1) the officer should lose his job and should have his license as a LEO revoked because his judgement to do a pit maneuver in this situation was reckless and dangerous.

but to say he should face criminal charges is where things are VERY wrong.

Was his action intentful to cause harm or destruction? No, his intent was still as a law enforcement officer to end a pursuit and enact justice for someone evading arrest or detention. What he failed to do was use his discretion.

If we start charging people with crimes for the result and not the intent we are in for a mess of a society. Imagine if we started finding people guilty of crimes regardless of their intent and only because of the result of their actions?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Talked about this in some IG pages and was astounded at peoples reactions.

1) the officer should lose his job and should have his license as a LEO revoked because his judgement to do a pit maneuver in this situation was reckless and dangerous.

but to say he should face criminal charges is where things are VERY wrong.

Was his action intentful to cause harm or destruction? No, his intent was still as a law enforcement officer to end a pursuit and enact justice for someone evading arrest or detention. What he failed to do was use his discretion.

If we start charging people with crimes for the result and not the intent we are in for a mess of a society. Imagine if we started finding people guilty of crimes regardless of their intent and only because of the result of their actions?
Reckless Endangerment is a crime though. A felony at that.

Based on your description of his actions and lack of discretion, couldn't you make an argument for Reckless Endangerment.

Attempted Manslaughter also could be relevant as he didn't INTEND to kill or commit grave bodily harm. This would be a stretch to prove though.

The issue here is intent, as you mentioned, but even without intent there are still options for felony charges.
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Originally Posted By DTRrex⏩
Reckless Endangerment is a crime though. A felony at that.

Based on your description of his actions and lack of discretion, couldn't you make an argument for Reckless Endangerment.

Attempted Manslaughter also could be relevant as he didn't INTEND to kill or commit grave bodily harm. This would be a stretch to prove though.

The issue here is intent, as you mentioned, but even without intent there are still options for felony charges.
Lack of intent doesnt mean there wasnt an intent. His INTENTION was to do his job, you cant just ignore that fact and only look at if there was ill intent. The fact that he was trying to do his job removes "reckless disregard".

This same "reckless endangerment" then can be used for every single vehicle accident and say the person was being reckless and endangered people and every fatality accident is then manslaughter.

So no you are 100% wrong in saying this could be reckless endangerment or manslaughter, if this was not a police officer that wouldnt even be an argument.

What the officer is guilty of here is poor discretion and decision making, plain and simple, that is not a criminal offense, but it is easily one he should be fired for and possibly face civil issues.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
What the officer is guilty of here is poor discretion and decision making, plain and simple, that is not a criminal offense, but it is easily one he should be fired for and possibly face civil issues.
But Qualified Immunity precludes him from facing civil responsibilities or repercussions.

Are you against Qualified Immunity?

Fyi, not arguing any specific point against you, just laying a framework to understand where you're coming from.
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Imagine flipping over a pregnant chick at 60 mph and when she tells you she is pregnant instead of being like “Lemme help you get out of your overturned busted car” you tell her “you should have stopped”.
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The fact of the matter is, pull over. The cop will know how to handle himself on the shoulder of the road - majority of the time approaching then passenger side (away from traffic lanes).
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If it turns out she was in commision of an actual crime I can support the action. But if it really was just a moving violation or something similar, this is beyond dumb on the part of the officer. But even more dumb are the people who will support the police no matter what.
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Didn’t watch the video, but on my agency we’re not allowed to follow or pursue unless a violent felony has occurred or the person is a threat to the safety of the community.

So if they don’t stop right away for a traffic infraction after a reasonable time we discontinue visual of the offender.

PIT maneuvers on my agency can only be used after an offender has met the above criteria and presented and intent to harm either the officer or the citizenry

Now I work for one of the best trained agencies in the country.

Look at smaller sizes or even rural departments and ask if they weigh those options with their own department policy and separate state laws
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Originally Posted By Azrairc⏩
Well funded cops do better job? To do nothing in California where homeless and gangs run ramped committing violent crimes routinely on live cams on boardwalks

Lmfao you guys need a serious paradigm shift if were to ever ascend from chit riddled ghettos used to be called cities if they are ever going to improve in any significant manner. Enjoy your 3rd world country comparable crime rates until you tone down the soy a bit
Have you seen the legislation those cuck politicians push out in California? They cater to homeless and even if a cop has a text book use of deadly force California law will throw him/her to the wolves.
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Lotta Monday morning quarter backs in this thread. Would like to see you all in a patrol car and see how you do.
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Originally Posted By denrocks1⏩
Hate the cop all you want but this woman was dumb as fuking sh!t. The cop did not hit her because she "didn't pull over right away". She was speeding up and slowing down for over two minutes and it should have been a major clue to pull over when the cop was riding her ass and pulling up beside her. Also, yes there is a shoulder. Is it a large shoulder? No. Is it adequate for an almost completely empty roadway? Yes. Should the cop have done that? Probably not but it also doesn't surprise me.
She was literally following Arkansas rules stated by the police. What do you mean “probably not” it’s a no 100%
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