Perhaps you, as the public, don't know of any research because you don't look and/or dismiss anything that doesn't support your theory?

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2771761

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2778361

https://journals.lww.com/jcma/Fullte...deaths_.2.aspx

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/int...-id-WZcY8vcw0z

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

So, I said"Can you show me where I've said that nobody's investigating excess deaths? Because I'd argue that that to be a false claim, especially as just a few posts back I said that it could very well be something that's being done but is being kept quiet."

And you respond quoting me sayingSo in other words, you prove that what you claimed was wrong and I never said what you claim I did.

You could just admit that actually, I never claimed what you said I did and you misremembered it, and we could move on from there. Easy to misinterpret something someone said, especially on an internet forum a posts/pages back.


Perhaps. Or perhaps, as with earlier with your two dozen Norwegian investigation, none of what's been done actually looks into the international (or even on national level) excess deaths and the causes. Let's check out each of your links and see:


https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid- no actual investigation into the deaths or causes

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2771761- "Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-July2020"; irrelevant

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2778361- "....March 1, 2020, to January 2, 2021" also irrelevant

https://journals.lww.com/jcma/Fullte...deaths_.2.aspx- no investigation into excess deaths; also irrelevant

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/int...-id-WZcY8vcw0z- " records for January 1, 2018, to December 31, 2021, were used in data analysis." still irrelevant

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...ibextid=Zxz2cZ- "we estimated that" =very irrelevant

By all means if you know of any major studies looking into excess deaths in one or more countries since 2021 to now and any potential relationship with vaccines, go ahead and post them; however, I'd wager that you won't be able to post anything of the sort given that you'd, presumably, have done so already if that was the case.

So, with that in mind, I'm not really sure why you're posting what you are, given that it's not relevant to this topic?

Go to Google scholar and search "excess deaths vaccine".

Sometimes ignorance is a choice.

If you take issue with estimates or estimation, you'll find the vast majority of research disappointing.

It's unfortunate your theory isn't supported. That doesn't mean nobody looked.

See the above, oft-repeated 10-letter word I used for my reaction to what comes up when doing this.Perhaps. But given that we've been talking about this for a while, that it's taken until now for you to give studies you claim answer these points,and they don't....I'd say it doesn't apply here, and more that you're trying to scratch the bottom of barrel, and now that that's not worked you're resorting to ad-hominems.

Accusing me (or at least, implying it) of being ignorant after just being shown to be at worst a liar and at best unable to own up to a mistake on your own part, though....that, and what it says about you,certainlyapplies.

I'm simply suggesting that a possible reason you aren't aware of anyone investigating your theory is that you haven't looked.

Or, that you decide a priori, that anyone investigating excess deaths and doesn't find evidence supporting your theory that they're caused by covid vaccines, isn't investigating properly.

ig·no·rance ˈig-n(ə-)rən(t)s
the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorance

Or, that you decide a priori, that anyone investigating excess deaths and doesn't find evidence supporting your theory that they're caused by covid vaccines, isn't investigating properly.[/QUOTE]

Well, you're wrong on both counts, so you can rid yourself of those thoughts.

Speaking of being wrong, are you going to address you being a liar / admit that you mis-remembered what I said?

You decided to speak for a large, but unidentified, group of people. That's another fallacious strategy.

It seems you may have misrepresented your position.

Being unaware of something doesn't negate its existence.

Except it's true; therearepeople who want to see this stuff investigated. It's not like I'm hiding behind anything by stating that.I didn't, what I was saying was very clear, it's that you were wrong in what you claimed about me and can't now admit it.

Either you lied about what I said or misremembered it and now can't admit that you made a mistake; I'd say they're equally bad in terms of reflecting on your character.Agreed, and is effectively what I've been saying this whole time.

Thanks for coming round to agreeing with what I've been putting forward!

Excess deaths are being investigated, as is the possible contribution of covid vaccines

It doesn't look like covid vaccines have caused increased excess deaths.