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03-07-2024, 09:28 AM
#151
Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
There are BTC ETFs now too.
The funniest thing about crypto IMO is that they actually have developed their own quasi sophisticated (but actually retarded) vocabulary, theories, rationale, strategies, etc. If you go deep down the rabbit hole, you'll find potatoes talking about "diversifying" their portfolio with difference wacky categories of chit coins, like gascoin, utilitycoin, etc etc etc.
For anyone "smart" like @Trusteez is referring to, they throw some who gives a fukk money into dogecoin, forgets about it, when it pumps, cashes out. when it dumps, puts it back in again.
For anyone "smart" like @Trusteez is referring to, they throw some who gives a fukk money into dogecoin, forgets about it, when it pumps, cashes out. when it dumps, puts it back in again.
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03-07-2024, 10:34 AM
#152
Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
Why? Its lost money over the last 29 months. Everything I’ve always said about it on here has come true. Everything the shills have always said certainly hasn’t
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Check my post history. Said endlessly its useless as a currency, and I’ve said why.
Check what the shills used to say. Beyond government, beyond countries, beyond regulation etc etc. Now, the shills are telling us how great it is that governments are regulating it! Absolutely all over the place
If it goes up a bit in value, great, a few idiot sons with big inheritances have bought into the nonsense. Its pass the parcel and you all know it
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03-07-2024, 12:02 PM
#153
03-07-2024, 01:00 PM
#154
Originally Posted By Bucktee⏩
read this, study Blackrock, and understand your family will never love you again for not allocating wisely
brutal thread, just lol
even if you hated crypto, any financially literate person would have logically flipped to a neutral or bullish position on it after the Blackrock endorsement
you have no idea about the infinite passive flow of money that will be funnelling into the ETF's, Blackrock the biggest financial giant of current times will absolutely pummel this product down every single one of their investors throats to earn free fee's that will have their executives earning mid-year bonuses that will amount to a greater number than all of us in this thread will earn in our entire lives combined.
and like I said, as long as you are at least financially literate and well-versed on financial matters, you could have completely hated the idea of crypto but after the ETF approval any sane person would have gained exposure
study the GOLD ETF approval date in correlation to the price of GOLD
study the volume flowing into bitcoin ETF's currently compared to the GOLD ETF
study the current AUM of the bitcoin ETF's only 2 months into trading compared to GOLD ETF's aum after 20 years (spoiler its not looking good for GOLD)
study how bitcoin ETF's completely shattered the record for any ETF in history in terms of volume and AUM in any debut time frame (first week, first month, first to $10 bil flows, etc)
study how the entire of Blackrocks offerings (100's of ETF's in their catalogue), IBIT (their bitcoin ETF) makes up currently 43% of Blackrocks entire NET flows for their entire ETF catalogue
study how IBIT is already a top 3 traded ETF on the market by volume
the list can go on, but you do not need to believe in a speculative asset to invest in it, money always has to flow somewhere just remember that, and an endorsement from the biggest financial giants in current times marked the easiest money making machine for anyone who didn't shoot themselves in the foot behind the whole "i refuse, i cant touch it, it has no real value, what can i do with it" just lol cope maxxers
even if you hated crypto, any financially literate person would have logically flipped to a neutral or bullish position on it after the Blackrock endorsement
you have no idea about the infinite passive flow of money that will be funnelling into the ETF's, Blackrock the biggest financial giant of current times will absolutely pummel this product down every single one of their investors throats to earn free fee's that will have their executives earning mid-year bonuses that will amount to a greater number than all of us in this thread will earn in our entire lives combined.
and like I said, as long as you are at least financially literate and well-versed on financial matters, you could have completely hated the idea of crypto but after the ETF approval any sane person would have gained exposure
study the GOLD ETF approval date in correlation to the price of GOLD
study the volume flowing into bitcoin ETF's currently compared to the GOLD ETF
study the current AUM of the bitcoin ETF's only 2 months into trading compared to GOLD ETF's aum after 20 years (spoiler its not looking good for GOLD)
study how bitcoin ETF's completely shattered the record for any ETF in history in terms of volume and AUM in any debut time frame (first week, first month, first to $10 bil flows, etc)
study how the entire of Blackrocks offerings (100's of ETF's in their catalogue), IBIT (their bitcoin ETF) makes up currently 43% of Blackrocks entire NET flows for their entire ETF catalogue
study how IBIT is already a top 3 traded ETF on the market by volume
the list can go on, but you do not need to believe in a speculative asset to invest in it, money always has to flow somewhere just remember that, and an endorsement from the biggest financial giants in current times marked the easiest money making machine for anyone who didn't shoot themselves in the foot behind the whole "i refuse, i cant touch it, it has no real value, what can i do with it" just lol cope maxxers
03-07-2024, 08:23 PM
#155
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Our banking systems aren’t stuck in the 1950s like you. I’ll prove anything I say for a permaban bet we on?
Already proved you wrong with data and facts while you spew your non factual BS. Btc best performing asset ever in the history of the world.
From under a dollar to 69 fukin K. And all your bitch ass had to do was buy and sit on your hands and do and absolutely fn nothing. Top kek
Stay poor ph4gg1t
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03-08-2024, 12:26 PM
#156
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
You said I was frauding about instant large cash/credit transfers with traditional banking. I called you out, you refused to stand by your call out
Already proved you wrong with data and facts while you spew your non factual BS. Btc best performing asset ever in the history of the world.
From under a dollar to 69 fukin K. And all your bitch ass had to do was buy and sit on your hands and do and absolutely fn nothing. Top kek
Stay poor ph4gg1t
>But but but real-estate goes up in in value even after it’s been used. And you sell it to the next sucker for more. It’s such a ponzi. That’s your level of IQ….room temp.
From under a dollar to 69 fukin K. And all your bitch ass had to do was buy and sit on your hands and do and absolutely fn nothing. Top kek
Stay poor ph4gg1t
>But but but real-estate goes up in in value even after it’s been used. And you sell it to the next sucker for more. It’s such a ponzi. That’s your level of IQ….room temp.
You are a pathetic weasel
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03-08-2024, 12:27 PM
#157
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
He's nothing but a BTC pumper who will lose everything.
You said I was frauding about instant large cash/credit transfers with traditional banking. I called you out, you refused to stand by your call out
You are a pathetic weasel
You are a pathetic weasel
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03-08-2024, 12:34 PM
#158
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
only loss I see is your rep power.
Why? Its lost money over the last 29 months. Everything I’ve always said about it on here has come true. Everything the shills have always said certainly hasn’t
Check my post history. Said endlessly its useless as a currency, and I’ve said why.
Check what the shills used to say. Beyond government, beyond countries, beyond regulation etc etc. Now, the shills are telling us how great it is that governments are regulating it! Absolutely all over the place
If it goes up a bit in value, great, a few idiot sons with big inheritances have bought into the nonsense. Its pass the parcel and you all know it
Check my post history. Said endlessly its useless as a currency, and I’ve said why.
Check what the shills used to say. Beyond government, beyond countries, beyond regulation etc etc. Now, the shills are telling us how great it is that governments are regulating it! Absolutely all over the place
If it goes up a bit in value, great, a few idiot sons with big inheritances have bought into the nonsense. Its pass the parcel and you all know it
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03-11-2024, 03:51 PM
#159
Bump.
Lol at nocoincels
Another all time high. Probably resistance at 76k and then straight up to 100k easy.
Lol at nocoincels
Another all time high. Probably resistance at 76k and then straight up to 100k easy.
03-11-2024, 04:02 PM
#160
OP getting cucked by BTC and crypto for the next 6 months + is hilarious 😆
03-11-2024, 04:05 PM
#161
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
never trust a FED lol
Wtf asset class it's supposed to be.
Currency? Okay. Show me who is actually buying and selling using BTC as the native payment method. Could your parents pay their mortgage or buy their groceries in BTC?
Okay so not currency. It's a commodity then, right? Okay. What is its utility? Because something can't be a commodity if it's only used as a store of value.
If you say blockchain is the utility, that's fine too. Except BTC doesn't own blockchain and its uses for other things has no benefit to BTC.
You're left with this being a fully speculative investment. Which is exactly how things go to zero.
Currency? Okay. Show me who is actually buying and selling using BTC as the native payment method. Could your parents pay their mortgage or buy their groceries in BTC?
Okay so not currency. It's a commodity then, right? Okay. What is its utility? Because something can't be a commodity if it's only used as a store of value.
If you say blockchain is the utility, that's fine too. Except BTC doesn't own blockchain and its uses for other things has no benefit to BTC.
You're left with this being a fully speculative investment. Which is exactly how things go to zero.
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03-11-2024, 04:55 PM
#162
Originally Posted By kusok⏩
So a volatile investment priced on speculation jumped. This is new and exciting.
Bump.
Lol at nocoincels
Another all time high. Probably resistance at 76k and then straight up to 100k easy.
Lol at nocoincels
Another all time high. Probably resistance at 76k and then straight up to 100k easy.
Remember, 2% of BTC holders own 92% of BTC (whales). This creates a bigger risk of a bubble, especially because it isn’t backed by assets. The future of BTC is unknown. Those speaking with certainty are claiming to be prophets.
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03-11-2024, 05:05 PM
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03-11-2024, 05:11 PM
#164
Originally Posted By leafs43⏩
I agree with this too. FDIC is meaningless when the courts have already ruled if the dollar or banking system crashes, no one is responsible. It’s happened at least 3 times, which is why the courts had to rule on this subject in the first place. The conclusion was “Too bad. If they have nothing left to give, then they have nothing left to give”. If they backed it with gold, then they could compensate with gold. Thing is, if it was backed by gold, the dollar would less likely crash in the first place.
This is the same argument with BTC. Hacking, over valuation through manipulation and malinvestment, and if the bubble bursts, there is nothing to compensate with.
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03-11-2024, 11:48 PM
#165
Originally Posted By leafs43⏩
Im not stating whether it will go up or down
But i want you to think about something
Blackrock, an invesment firm.. has trillions of dollars of assets
No matter how smart you think you are… you cant do chit
And if they wanted to do chit, theres nothing you could do
My question to you is, do you really think youll beat them out? Or if there was any threat that btc would disrupt their investments theyd let it?
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03-12-2024, 01:13 AM
#166
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
So a volatile investment priced on speculation jumped. This is new and exciting.
Remember, 2% of BTC holders own 92% of BTC (whales). This creates a bigger risk of a bubble, especially because it isn’t backed by assets. The future of BTC is unknown. Those speaking with certainty are claiming to be prophets.
Remember, 2% of BTC holders own 92% of BTC (whales). This creates a bigger risk of a bubble, especially because it isn’t backed by assets. The future of BTC is unknown. Those speaking with certainty are claiming to be prophets.
Not prophets. It’s 12 years of history and 3 halving cycles (this is 4th) where bitcoin behaved exactly the same way every time, because it’s in its’ code, it’s not unknown, it’s very known.
We can see onchain who is buying, who is holding, who is selling etc. We know for example that it goes up 35% into halving, then hangs out for a while and goes up 10-30x in 18 months. So far no fundamentals have changed. We have Wall Street approval, and these pension funds do not sell. You’re leaving lots of money on the table by not allocating to it at least a little bit of your portfolio.
Speculation is forming an opinion WITHOUT EVIDENCE. That last part is very important. We have a sheitload of historical evidence as well as on chain. As far as not being backed by anything, so what? Neither is Gold. It’s a store of value. It can’t be inflated unlike paper money.
03-12-2024, 01:19 AM
#167
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
BlackRock allocates to bitcoin, these people do not sell. They hold forever. These are pension funds and such. They do not day or swing trade. They allocate a certain % meaning they buy, forever. That is a very good thing for the space, lots of money coming in. BlackRock stamp of approval is the best thing one can hope for.
Im not stating whether it will go up or down
But i want you to think about something
Blackrock, an invesment firm.. has trillions of dollars of assets
No matter how smart you think you are… you cant do chit
And if they wanted to do chit, theres nothing you could do
My question to you is, do you really think youll beat them out? Or if there was any threat that btc would disrupt their investments theyd let it?
But i want you to think about something
Blackrock, an invesment firm.. has trillions of dollars of assets
No matter how smart you think you are… you cant do chit
And if they wanted to do chit, theres nothing you could do
My question to you is, do you really think youll beat them out? Or if there was any threat that btc would disrupt their investments theyd let it?
03-12-2024, 01:43 AM
#168
Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Sigh.. i know your viewpoint is now and making money
BlackRock allocates to bitcoin, these people do not sell. They hold forever. These are pension funds and such. They do not day or swing trade. They allocate a certain % meaning they buy, forever. That is a very good thing for the space, lots of money coming in. BlackRock stamp of approval is the best thing one can hope for.
But im just talking sbout the investment vehicle itself
They could literally buy up all the supply if they wanted to and hord it in name of " hedge against inflation"
But once again i struggle to see why btc's value at that point just goes up and up. When its literally just used back and forth between each other because theres no more supply
I dont see how the analysis is " btc will always go up, and the dollar will lose value relative to it forever"
Btw, what i say doesnt mean that i also cant put my money in it
I dont think i will, but im just saying. Just analyzing the thing as a whole
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03-12-2024, 02:00 AM
#169
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Sigh.. i know your viewpoint is now and making money
But im just talking sbout the investment vehicle itself
They could literally buy up all the supply if they wanted to and hord it in name of " hedge against inflation"
But once again i struggle to see why btc's value at that point just goes up and up. When its literally just used back and forth between each other because theres no more supply
I dont see how the analysis is " btc will always go up, and the dollar will lose value relative to it forever"
Btw, what i say doesnt mean that i also cant put my money in it
I dont think i will, but im just saying. Just analyzing the thing as a whole
But im just talking sbout the investment vehicle itself
They could literally buy up all the supply if they wanted to and hord it in name of " hedge against inflation"
But once again i struggle to see why btc's value at that point just goes up and up. When its literally just used back and forth between each other because theres no more supply
I dont see how the analysis is " btc will always go up, and the dollar will lose value relative to it forever"
Btw, what i say doesnt mean that i also cant put my money in it
I dont think i will, but im just saying. Just analyzing the thing as a whole
If Blackrock or anyone else wanted to buy up all the bitcoin supply, that is literally what you’re hoping for when you invest. That is called supply and demand, a supply crunch. Price would go into the stratosphere. That is the ultimate best possible outcome. Personally I will sell some of my bitcoin after it hits 1 mil, I will hold and borrow against the majority of my holdings REGARDLESS of price or who wants to buy it. Rich people do not sell anything, they borrow against their portfolio.
You’re going to regret this decision of yours… and you will get in at 100k anyway. That’s fine because you will still 10x your money.
03-12-2024, 02:14 AM
#170
6 pages?
03-12-2024, 02:47 AM
#171
Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Can you tell me why it would keep going up with 0 supply? I understand a dwindling supply. And i understand scarcity. Just because something is scarce doesnt make it valuable.
If Blackrock or anyone else wanted to buy up all the bitcoin supply, that is literally what you’re hoping for when you invest. That is called supply and demand, a supply crunch. Price would go into the stratosphere. That is the ultimate best possible outcome. Personally I will sell some of my bitcoin after it hits 1 mil, I will hold and borrow against the majority of my holdings REGARDLESS of price or who wants to buy it. Rich people do not sell anything, they borrow against their portfolio.
You’re going to regret this decision of yours… and you will get in at 100k anyway. That’s fine because you will still 10x your money.
You’re going to regret this decision of yours… and you will get in at 100k anyway. That’s fine because you will still 10x your money.
I dont want to hear what you think other people are doing; as in, theyd continually buy
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03-12-2024, 03:24 AM
#172
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
There are always sellers thou. At the right price… And long term holders haven’t sold thru 80% downturns, and are not planning to sell until 1 mil at least. That’s good, you don’t want paper hands, you want people to HODL. So, supply is never zero.
Can you tell me why it would keep going up with 0 supply? I understand a dwindling supply. And i understand scarcity. Just because something is scarce doesnt make it valuable.
I dont want to hear what you think other people are doing; as in, theyd continually buy
I dont want to hear what you think other people are doing; as in, theyd continually buy
I think it;s also important to think about your time frame, who cares what happens when quantum computing may present security issues for bitcoin? Who cares about what happens when all coins are mined or whatever? Our time to make money is now. Next 2-5 years look good, we will reassess as/when/if fundamentals change.
03-12-2024, 04:07 AM
#173
Do nocoincels see nothing wrong with a thread about bitcoin going to zero after 12 years of bitcoin going from $2-72k?
Would you make a thread “I still think sun will not come up tomorrow”
I mean, how much reassurance do you need? A century? What would be enough for you? Scared money don’t make money.
Would you make a thread “I still think sun will not come up tomorrow”
I mean, how much reassurance do you need? A century? What would be enough for you? Scared money don’t make money.
03-13-2024, 07:08 PM
#174
How is it going op? Will bump again at 100k then at 300k etc.
03-13-2024, 07:39 PM
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03-14-2024, 02:43 PM
#176
This was your dip, if you didn’t have any miners, microstrategy, spot bitcoin, and Tesla is starting to look juicy too, today was your chance to get some,
Could get a pop today afterhours, if there is another dip tomorrow, get some more, then, probably pretty big pop Sunday night, as always…
Could get a pop today afterhours, if there is another dip tomorrow, get some more, then, probably pretty big pop Sunday night, as always…
03-14-2024, 03:22 PM
#177
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03-14-2024, 03:34 PM
#178
Originally Posted By Berts⏩
Mirin breh, people who know what they’re doing with staking and alt coins can make a killing, just be careful, I’m too dumb for that, I’m oldcel, so terrible with technology, and I’m in New York, these mother****ers don’t even let us get any yield or staking unless we try to get around it, I just buy and hold stocks and 3 biggest cryptos, and sell options, that it
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03-14-2024, 04:08 PM
#179
Originally Posted By kusok⏩
I didn't say I was smart, I’ll likely never make anything worth mentioning but the tech is crazy.
Mirin breh, people who know what they’re doing with staking and alt coins can make a killing, just be careful, I’m too dumb for that, I’m oldcel, so terrible with technology, and I’m in New York, these mother****ers don’t even let us get any yield or staking unless we try to get around it, I just buy and hold stocks and 3 biggest cryptos, and sell options, that it
Soon you will have auto farming that compounds and pay off leveraged loans auto automatically with the yield profits. You don’t do anything but relax in Bali
03-14-2024, 04:20 PM
#180
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
What is the pound pegged to?
Our banking systems aren’t stuck in the 1950s like you. I’ll prove anything I say for a permaban bet we on?
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