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03-21-2024, 12:58 AM
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we are a result of panspermia.
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03-21-2024, 01:00 AM
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read the book "sapiens"
03-21-2024, 01:10 AM
#153
Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
Yeah no thanks, that book's author Yuval Noah Harari is down with the WEF and New World Order by extension - he is also a gay vegan Jew (sso he's
definitely
not biased)
read the book "sapiens"
I only wonder if he actually believes the junk he teaches and writes about, or if he's so 'enlightened' that he's doing it for no other reason than to serve the devil himself.
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03-21-2024, 01:15 AM
#154
Originally Posted By analfist⏩
Klaus Schwab is evil personified - if he told me 2+2=4, I'd assume he's trying to trick or manipulate me out of something, most likely my human rights.
If Klaus Schwab told you 2+2=4, would you assume he was wrong?
Take your meds bro.
Take your meds bro.
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03-21-2024, 01:20 AM
#155
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
Jeez don't you find it interesting how there is no other species like a human on any part of the world? If macro evolution was true, you'd expect our world to be bustling with different forms of life that have evolved the ability to speak, write, and create art.
A scientific theory just shows how all the available scientific facts fit together. A scientific theory has to be backed by all available empirical evidence and contradicted by none. If it's flawed, please explain why, publish it in a peer-reviewed journal and your Nobel prize will be waiting for you.
Evolution is a branching process where an organism never "stops" being something it already is. Take the phylogenetic tree of hominids for example. Chimps and Humans diverged around 10 million years ago, but today they've retained all taxonomic categories that applied to them back at that point.
Imagine this over millions of years - some group of multicellular eukaryotics evolve to become chordates, these chordates evolve to become mammals, these mammals become primates, these primates become hominids, these hominids go on to become Homo Sapiens. Note that even after millions of evolution and arriving at some "completely different" lifeform Homo Sapiens has never at any point stopped being a: multicellular eukaryotic, a chordate, a mammal, a primate, a hominid.
Evolution is a branching process where an organism never "stops" being something it already is. Take the phylogenetic tree of hominids for example. Chimps and Humans diverged around 10 million years ago, but today they've retained all taxonomic categories that applied to them back at that point.
Imagine this over millions of years - some group of multicellular eukaryotics evolve to become chordates, these chordates evolve to become mammals, these mammals become primates, these primates become hominids, these hominids go on to become Homo Sapiens. Note that even after millions of evolution and arriving at some "completely different" lifeform Homo Sapiens has never at any point stopped being a: multicellular eukaryotic, a chordate, a mammal, a primate, a hominid.
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03-21-2024, 01:29 AM
#156
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
See post #149
Jeez don't you find it interesting how there is no other species like a human on any part of the world? If macro evolution was true, you'd expect our world to be bustling with different forms of life that have evolved the ability to speak, write, and create art.
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03-21-2024, 01:30 AM
#157
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Jeez don't you find it interesting how there is no other species like a human on any part of the world? If macro evolution was true, you'd expect our world to be bustling with different forms of life that have evolved the ability to speak, write, and create art.
Macroevolution is true. The evidence for it is overwhelming.
Do you really think no one is working on this question of human intelligence? We have cognitive psyhchologists, evolutionary psyhchogolists, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, zooologists, ethologists putting out thousands of publications on this.
Really, have you done any reading here? There are perfectly sensible answers why only humans are this intelligent. Intellect is a massive evolutionary investment. The human brain takes up 20% of calories. That makes great demands on us to live, we have to work pretty hard.
That's actually the reason why we're born as helpless babies. We need to be born prematurely so our heads can fit out of our mum's kunts. Then we develop outside the womb for years needing full time care.
You acctually need a lot of coincident things to exploit the benefits of intelligence. Language, social structures, free hands to manipulate the environment. It's quite a tight bottleneck to pass through. For a lot of animals, the demands of a brain that size just might not be worth the price of admission.
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03-21-2024, 01:38 AM
#158
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
So where are they now? The earth is huge and at least one other species of human must be alive
See post #149
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Once again, I have a degree in science and I was an atheist for a long time and believed in evolution for a long time - and even then there were things that made no sense at all to me like for example why does DNA replicate, as in what FORCE is driving the self replication of DNA because whatever it is it's POWERFUL?
Macroevolution is true. The evidence for it is overwhelming.
Do you really think no one is working on this question of human intelligence? We have cognitive psyhchologists, evolutionary psyhchogolists, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, zooologists, ethologists putting out thousands of publications on this.
Really, have you done any reading here? There are perfectly sensible answers why only humans are this intelligent. Intellect is a massive evolutionary investment. The human brain takes up 20% of calories. That makes great demands on us to live, we have to work pretty hard.
That's actually the reason why we're born as helpless babies. We need to be born prematurely so our heads can fit out of our mum's kunts. Then we develop outside the womb for years needing full time care.
You acctually need a lot of coincident things to exploit the benefits of intelligence. Language, social structures, free hands to manipulate the environment. It's quite a tight bottleneck to pass through. For a lot of animals, the demands of a brain that size just might not be worth the price of admission.
Do you really think no one is working on this question of human intelligence? We have cognitive psyhchologists, evolutionary psyhchogolists, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, zooologists, ethologists putting out thousands of publications on this.
Really, have you done any reading here? There are perfectly sensible answers why only humans are this intelligent. Intellect is a massive evolutionary investment. The human brain takes up 20% of calories. That makes great demands on us to live, we have to work pretty hard.
That's actually the reason why we're born as helpless babies. We need to be born prematurely so our heads can fit out of our mum's kunts. Then we develop outside the womb for years needing full time care.
You acctually need a lot of coincident things to exploit the benefits of intelligence. Language, social structures, free hands to manipulate the environment. It's quite a tight bottleneck to pass through. For a lot of animals, the demands of a brain that size just might not be worth the price of admission.
Second, if we are just highly evolved chimps living in a physical world and nothing else (as in we don't have a soul), that means that there is no free will and everything that's going on is simply a result of what happened previously, which basically means that life is nothing more than a giant chemical reaction and there is no point of even trying because everything was predetermined at the 'big bang' or whatever you wanna call it.
Then you can make the argument that science is about what we do know and not about assuming what we don't know - and in that case, you have to be pretty stupid to not realise that there HAS to be something more to existence than the just physical reality you experience in the wakeful state, otherwise, once again, life becomes nothing more than a giant chemical reaction where nothing has any purpose and your consciousness is simply stuck inside of a body that it has no control over, since everything is based on cause and effect to the external environment, which makes life some sort of movie that has a predefined story line and your consciousness is simply waiting to catch up.
And that doesn't even begin with the question of what consciousness and awareness is and what causes it.
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03-21-2024, 01:45 AM
#159
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
So where are they now? The earth is huge and at least one other species of human must be alive
Once again, I have a degree in science and I was an atheist for a long time and believed in evolution for a long time - and even then there were things that made no sense at all to me like for example why does DNA replicate, as in what FORCE is driving the self replication of DNA because whatever it is it's POWERFUL?
Second, if we are just highly evolved chimps living in a physical world and nothing else (as in we don't have a soul), that means that there is no free will and everything that's going on is simply a result of what happened previously, which basically means that life is nothing more than a giant chemical reaction and there is no point of even trying because everything was predetermined at the 'big bang' or whatever you wanna call it.
Then you can make the argument that science is about what we do know and not about assuming what we don't know - and in that case, you have to be pretty stupid to not realise that there HAS to be something more to existence than the just physical reality you experience in the wakeful state, otherwise, once again, life becomes nothing more than a giant chemical reaction where nothing has any purpose and your consciousness is simply stuck inside of a body that it has no control over, since everything is based on cause and effect to the external environment, which makes life some sort of movie that has a predefined story line.
Once again, I have a degree in science and I was an atheist for a long time and believed in evolution for a long time - and even then there were things that made no sense at all to me like for example why does DNA replicate, as in what FORCE is driving the self replication of DNA because whatever it is it's POWERFUL?
Second, if we are just highly evolved chimps living in a physical world and nothing else (as in we don't have a soul), that means that there is no free will and everything that's going on is simply a result of what happened previously, which basically means that life is nothing more than a giant chemical reaction and there is no point of even trying because everything was predetermined at the 'big bang' or whatever you wanna call it.
Then you can make the argument that science is about what we do know and not about assuming what we don't know - and in that case, you have to be pretty stupid to not realise that there HAS to be something more to existence than the just physical reality you experience in the wakeful state, otherwise, once again, life becomes nothing more than a giant chemical reaction where nothing has any purpose and your consciousness is simply stuck inside of a body that it has no control over, since everything is based on cause and effect to the external environment, which makes life some sort of movie that has a predefined story line.
But now you're hitting us with a different set of questions. How does DNA develop the capacity for replication? Free will? Consciousness? Is reality just physical?
All interesting questions, but this is not about whether or not human intelligence can evolve from simpler intelligence, or why only humans are this intelligent. The above are either the domain of abiogenesis, or philosophy.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
03-21-2024, 01:50 AM
#160
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Thanks for dodging the question - see I understand it doesn't fit into your world view and belief system, so to avoid cognitive dissonance, you don't even bother think about it.
But now you're hitting us with a different set of questions. How does DNA develop the capacity for replication? Free will? Consciousness? Is reality just physical?
All interesting questions, but this is not about whether or not human intelligence can evolve from simpler intelligence, or why only humans are this intelligent. The above are either the domain of abiogenesis, or philosophy.
All interesting questions, but this is not about whether or not human intelligence can evolve from simpler intelligence, or why only humans are this intelligent. The above are either the domain of abiogenesis, or philosophy.
Trust me, it's very relevant to the 'science of evolution' and only an idiot would say otherwise.
Why? Because the theory of evolution is basically just about DNA and changes in DNA that 'translate' to changes in an organism phenotype and nothing more.
So again, can you explain what force causes DNA to replicate?
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03-21-2024, 01:54 AM
#161
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Thanks for dodging the question - see I understand it doesn't fit into your world view and belief system, so to avoid cognitive dissonance, you don't even bother think about it.
Trust me, it's very relevant to the 'science of evolution' and only an idiot would say otherwise.
Why? Because the theory of evolution is basically just about DNA and changes in DNA that 'translate' to changes in an organism phenotype and nothing more.
So again, can you explain what force causes DNA to replicate?
Trust me, it's very relevant to the 'science of evolution' and only an idiot would say otherwise.
Why? Because the theory of evolution is basically just about DNA and changes in DNA that 'translate' to changes in an organism phenotype and nothing more.
So again, can you explain what force causes DNA to replicate?
Evolution presumes a functioning and replicating cell, it doesn't explain it nor seeks to. Evolution is about the diversity and changes of lifeforms on Earth and explains this through common descent and speciation.
Back off, Warchild.
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03-21-2024, 01:56 AM
#162
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
So how did inorganic matter evolve into RNA/DNA? Or is that not considered evolution? At which point does evolution begin and end in your world view?
Evolution presumes a functioning and replicating cell, it doesn't explain it nor seeks to. Evolution is about the diversity and changes of lifeforms on Earth and explains this through common descent and speciation.
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03-21-2024, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Once again, I have a degree in science
No, you don't. Or at least not from an accredited university. Nobody with a degree in science can come up with a thread title like that.
Once again, I have a degree in science
For starters - Darwin was a man born in the beginning of the 19th century. "On The Origins of Species" was published more than 150 years ago. I would say your knowledge on the subject is not up to date. We are now aware on different evolutionary mechanisms besides natural selection such as for example genetic drift - an entirely random process.
But even so - do you disagree with the basic principle of natural selection - that organisms with advantageous traits survive and reproduce more than those without?
If you're interested in biochemistry then maybe start a thread with a title - "I am a scientist, but I don't understand certain biochemical processes, nor do I feel like reading text books and scientific publications on the subject. Care to explain?"
Evolution doesn't disprove God. Belief in God and understanding of evolution are not mutually exclusive. Most of my friends are deists and understand evolution. Evolution simply invalidates religious texts such as Genesis being literal accounts of what happened.
If you want to have a philosophical discussion then maybe name the thread "what is the meaning of life? Can non-religious people apply meaning to theirs?"
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03-21-2024, 02:46 AM
#164
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Srsly what kind of a fkin scientist are you?
So how did inorganic matter evolve into RNA/DNA? Or is that not considered evolution? At which point does evolution begin and end in your world view?
Nucleotides link together to form DNA/RNA. These nucleotides can have one of four nucleobases. For RNA they are: adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G), and uracil (U). For DNA they are adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine (T). In addition to the nucleobases they have sugar molecules - in RNA, it’s ribose while in DNA, the sugar is deoxyribose. Finally in addition to the nucleobase and sugar, the nucleotide has phosphate group attached to it which is basically a molecule composed of phosphorus and oxygen atoms.
Nucleobases have been formed in labs that simulate the conditions of a primordial earth. For example leaving hydrogen cyanide and ammonia in an aqueous solution produced adenine.
Nucleotides join other nucleotides to form chains called polynucleotides. The seafloor of the primordial earth as well as hot pools on land provided catalysts for this to happen - montmorillonite clay. Such polynucleotides became the first replicating RNA molecules.
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03-21-2024, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
OK - say that scientists create a whole strand of DNA or RNA (and not just nucleobases) with the 'right conditions' spontaneously, how will the DNA/RNA replicate it self without the constituent components found inside of a living cell that are required for DNA replication?
Srsly what kind of a fkin scientist are you?
Nucleotides link together to form DNA/RNA. These nucleotides can have one of four nucleobases. For RNA they are: adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G), and uracil (U). For DNA they are adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine (T). In addition to the nucleobases they have sugar molecules - in RNA, it’s ribose while in DNA, the sugar is deoxyribose. Finally in addition to the nucleobase and sugar, the nucleotide has phosphate group attached to it which is basically a molecule composed of phosphorus and oxygen atoms.
Nucleobases have been formed in labs that simulate the conditions of a primordial earth. For example leaving hydrogen cyanide and ammonia in an aqueous solution produced adenine.
Nucleotides join other nucleotides to form chains called polynucleotides. The seafloor of the primordial earth as well as hot pools on land provided catalysts for this to happen - montmorillonite clay. Such polynucleotides became the first replicating RNA molecules.
Nucleotides link together to form DNA/RNA. These nucleotides can have one of four nucleobases. For RNA they are: adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G), and uracil (U). For DNA they are adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine (T). In addition to the nucleobases they have sugar molecules - in RNA, it’s ribose while in DNA, the sugar is deoxyribose. Finally in addition to the nucleobase and sugar, the nucleotide has phosphate group attached to it which is basically a molecule composed of phosphorus and oxygen atoms.
Nucleobases have been formed in labs that simulate the conditions of a primordial earth. For example leaving hydrogen cyanide and ammonia in an aqueous solution produced adenine.
Nucleotides join other nucleotides to form chains called polynucleotides. The seafloor of the primordial earth as well as hot pools on land provided catalysts for this to happen - montmorillonite clay. Such polynucleotides became the first replicating RNA molecules.
You seem to have memorised a lot but you're missing the most important aspect, and that is that DNA needs to be inside of a living cell to function - it needs all the 'machinery' the create effective protein-structures that result in cellular proliferation and whatever else.
If you read my posts in this thread I do not deny that organisms have been created with the intelligence to be able to adapt and morph, i simply stated that evolution in the sense of macro evolution is a HOAX.
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03-21-2024, 03:07 AM
#166
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
OK - say that scientists create a whole strand of DNA or RNA (and not just nucleobases) with the 'right conditions' spontaneously, how will the DNA/RNA replicate it self without the constituent components found inside of a living cell that are required for DNA replication?
You seem to have memorised a lot but you're missing the most important aspect, and that is that DNA needs to be inside of a living cell to function - it needs all the 'machinery' the create effective protein-structures that result in cellular proliferation and whatever else.
If you read my posts in this thread I do not deny that organisms have been created with the intelligence to be able to adapt and morph, i simply stated that evolution in the sense of macro evolution is a HOAX.
You seem to have memorised a lot but you're missing the most important aspect, and that is that DNA needs to be inside of a living cell to function - it needs all the 'machinery' the create effective protein-structures that result in cellular proliferation and whatever else.
If you read my posts in this thread I do not deny that organisms have been created with the intelligence to be able to adapt and morph, i simply stated that evolution in the sense of macro evolution is a HOAX.
Abiogenesis isn't evolution. A different scientific field.
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03-21-2024, 03:11 AM
#167
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Surely a man of reason would see how abiogenesis is tied directly to evolution? Without the first cell there would be nothing to 'evolve'.
Abiogenesis isn't evolution. A different scientific field.
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03-21-2024, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Self-replicating single strand RNA molecules predate cells. The first primitive cells would be RNA molecules inside micelle membranes as RNA molecules thrived in montmorillonite clay along with other organic compounds such as said lipids(which formed micelles) that attached to them. What is required for DNA molecules to replicate is actually proteins, but lab experiments have shown that amino acids(aka the building blocks of life) can also come about spontaneously.
OK - say that scientists create a whole strand of DNA or RNA (and not just nucleobases) with the 'right conditions' spontaneously, how will the DNA/RNA replicate it self without the constituent components found inside of a living cell that are required for DNA replication?
You seem to have memorised a lot but you're missing the most important aspect, and that is that DNA needs to be inside of a living cell to function - it needs all the 'machinery' the create effective protein-structures that result in cellular proliferation and whatever else.
If you read my posts in this thread I do not deny that organisms have been created with the intelligence to be able to adapt and morph, i simply stated that evolution in the sense of macro evolution is a HOAX.
You seem to have memorised a lot but you're missing the most important aspect, and that is that DNA needs to be inside of a living cell to function - it needs all the 'machinery' the create effective protein-structures that result in cellular proliferation and whatever else.
If you read my posts in this thread I do not deny that organisms have been created with the intelligence to be able to adapt and morph, i simply stated that evolution in the sense of macro evolution is a HOAX.
What do you mean by macroevolution exactly and what about it is a HOAX?
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03-21-2024, 04:00 AM
#169
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
I see where you're going with this, but it requires quite a bit of blind faith in 'the science', which I no longer have. I'm obviously not going to change your mind since you're stuck in your beliefs, just as I once was.
Self-replicating single strand RNA molecules predate cells. The first primitive cells would be RNA molecules inside micelle membranes as RNA molecules thrived in montmorillonite clay along with other organic compounds such as said lipids that attached to them. What is required for DNA molecules to replicate is actually proteins, but lab experiments have shown that amino acids(aka the building blocks of life) can also come about spontaneously.
What do you mean by macroevolution exactly and what about it is a HOAX?
What do you mean by macroevolution exactly and what about it is a HOAX?
To me the whole thing about 'single stranded RNA somehow coalesced with phospho lipids and made a basic cell which reproduced' is stupid, because it doesn't fit in my belief system - which is what it is in the end.. a belief system where you're happy to 'fill in the gaps' with whatever suits your worldview and suits your narrative - Good luck to you though.
Macroevolution is the evolution from one species to another - so you know how there's Caucasians, dark skinned people, east asians, but no 'other species' that we can't reproduce with, yet they evolved higher cognitive functions like intellect? That's what I mean by macro evolution is a HOAX.
In my mind intellect is what seperates a human from an animal - and the fact that it's aware of being aware… yet only humans have intellect which is one of if not 'the best' possibilities in this existence.
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03-21-2024, 04:17 AM
#170
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Strong.
I see where you're going with this, but it requires quite a bit of
blind faith
in 'the science', which I no longer have. I'm obviously not going to change your mind since
you're stuck in your beliefs
, just as I once was. To me the whole thing about 'single stranded RNA somehow coalesced with phospho lipids and made a basic cell which reproduced' is stupid,
because it doesn't fit in my belief system
. Good luck to you though.
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
OK, how do ring species fit in your worldview? How do genetic hybrids such as ligers, zonkeys, mules, etc fit?
Macroevolution is the evolution from one species to another
Care to explain which mechanism of evolution you deny being true:
Natural selection -t/f?
Gene flow - t/f?
Genetic drift - t/f?
Mutations - t/f?
A lot of your questions are based on false premises or lack of understanding. Like I said in a previous post the theory of evolution just shows how all the available scientific facts fit together. If you look at the evolutionary timeline of Homo Sapiens you would see that the populations that evolved over hundreds of millions of years to get to us today never at any point stopped being what they were before taxonomically speaking. Homo Sapiens has never at any point stopped being a: multicellular eukaryotic, a chordate, a mammal, a primate, a hominid.
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03-21-2024, 04:41 AM
#171
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
Well that's what YOU believe - see you believe it and then you find reasons to justify your beliefs and it will always make sense to you, becauses it's how beliefs work. I too was at atheist for 10-15 years, studied science at uni and argued with creationists all the time thinking I was intellectually superior to them. Then the Lord Jesus Christ revealed Himself to me and now I just think that evolution is all garbage used to distract you from the true purpose of life. Even if you find God one day (which I hope you do) it's not like you'll think back and be like "damn that wiseoldape was a smart guy", you'll just think you're right about everything, like you do now and find reasons that fit your narrative.
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OK, how do ring species fit in your worldview? How do genetic hybrids such as ligers, zonkeys, mules, etc fit?
Care to explain which mechanism of evolution you deny being true:
Natural selection -t/f?
Gene flow - t/f?
Genetic drift - t/f?
Mutations - t/f?
A lot of your questions are based on false premises or lack of understanding. Like I said in a previous post the theory of evolution just shows how all the available scientific facts fit together. If you look at the evolutionary timeline of Homo Sapiens you would see that the populations that evolved over hundreds of millions of years to get to us today never at any point stopped being what they were before taxonomically speaking. Homo Sapiens has never at any point stopped being a: multicellular eukaryotic, a chordate, a mammal, a primate, a hominid.
OK, how do ring species fit in your worldview? How do genetic hybrids such as ligers, zonkeys, mules, etc fit?
Care to explain which mechanism of evolution you deny being true:
Natural selection -t/f?
Gene flow - t/f?
Genetic drift - t/f?
Mutations - t/f?
A lot of your questions are based on false premises or lack of understanding. Like I said in a previous post the theory of evolution just shows how all the available scientific facts fit together. If you look at the evolutionary timeline of Homo Sapiens you would see that the populations that evolved over hundreds of millions of years to get to us today never at any point stopped being what they were before taxonomically speaking. Homo Sapiens has never at any point stopped being a: multicellular eukaryotic, a chordate, a mammal, a primate, a hominid.
A lot of men these days BELIEVE that they are women and it makes perfect sense to them - so much so that they chop off their genitalia and are protected by the law and 'the science' in doing so.
Ahh, the world of beliefs.
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03-21-2024, 05:10 AM
#172
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
No, it's legislators that enable the mentally ill, not scientists. Hard sciences(like evolutionary biology) actually point to tranny LARPers being delusional
A lot of men these days BELIEVE that they are women and it makes perfect sense to them - so much so that they chop off their genitalia and are protected by the law and 'the science' in doing so.
Ahh, the world of beliefs.
Ahh, the world of beliefs.
Yes, life does require us to make certain basic assumptions. Even for statements like 1+1=2. But evolution requires as much blind faith as accepting the common notion that 1+1=2.
The scientific method goes against the human nature of favoring information that reinforces preconceived notions and beliefs. Science makes you doubt everything and tries to falsify any new acquired data before perceiving it as true. That's the whole point of peer review - it's basically people trying to destroy and disprove any new findings or conclusions you might have made.
Just for the record I don't claim to be a scientist or even smart. I'm just smart enough to be able to appreciate scientists with actual intellectual capacity.
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03-21-2024, 05:12 AM
#173
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
Yeah I mean who knows what sort of creatures would evolve out of the ones God created if the earth was more than 6000 years old.
No, it's legislators that enable the mentally ill, not scientists. Hard sciences(like evolutionary biology) actually point to tranny LARPers being delusional
Yes, life does require us to make certain basic assumptions. Even for statements like 1+1=2. But evolution requires as much blind faith as accepting the common notion that 1+1=2.
The scientific method goes against the human nature of favoring information that reinforces preconceived notions and beliefs. Science makes you doubt everything and tries to falsify any new acquired data before perceiving it as true. That's the whole point of peer review - it's basically people trying to destroy and disprove any new findings or conclusions you might have made.
Just for the record I don't claim to be a scientist or even smart. I'm just smart enough to be able to appreciate scientists with actual intellectual capacity.
Yes, life does require us to make certain basic assumptions. Even for statements like 1+1=2. But evolution requires as much blind faith as accepting the common notion that 1+1=2.
The scientific method goes against the human nature of favoring information that reinforces preconceived notions and beliefs. Science makes you doubt everything and tries to falsify any new acquired data before perceiving it as true. That's the whole point of peer review - it's basically people trying to destroy and disprove any new findings or conclusions you might have made.
Just for the record I don't claim to be a scientist or even smart. I'm just smart enough to be able to appreciate scientists with actual intellectual capacity.
BRB let me just ponder on why the world is run by a bunch of p3dophiles who openly perform satanic rituals and try to discredit Jesus Christ at every corner - and push transgenderism and homosexuality any chance they get.
Wonder what the evolutionary benefit to that is.
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03-21-2024, 05:14 AM
#174
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
The great apes are almost human in intelligence. Not to mention orcas, crows, and parrots which are smarter than human children.
Why is there no ape/chimp that's between a human and a chimpanzee in terms of intellect and 'smart' capabilities?
Why are humans the only form of life capable of intelligence.
I'll tell you why, evolution requires more blind faith than christianity - not to mention that it centres around false beliefs.
Why are humans the only form of life capable of intelligence.
I'll tell you why, evolution requires more blind faith than christianity - not to mention that it centres around false beliefs.
Edit: ironic username.
03-21-2024, 05:16 AM
#175
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
My arse they are - only a complete moron would say that any animal on earth is even remotely as intelligent as a human being in terms of cognitive function.
The great apes are almost human in intelligence. Not to mention orcas, crows, and parrots which are smarter than human children.
Edit: ironic username.
Edit: ironic username.
Reminds me of the lost causes that spend their entire life working with these animals and training them to perform basic tasks in hopes of 'discovering' something 'new' about 'evolution'.
User name is an oxymoron - I should not need to explain that.
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03-21-2024, 05:20 AM
#176
Originally Posted By EiFit91⏩
We also probably killed off anything that competed in the process (Neanderthals).
Your entire premise is flawed. Evolution is not a teleological (goal-directed) process.
03-21-2024, 05:21 AM
#177
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Next time just say that your post is about Jesus, not Darwin
Yeah I mean who knows what sort of creatures would evolve out of the ones God created if the earth was more than 6000 years old.
BRB let me just ponder on why the world is run by a bunch of p3dophiles who openly perform satanic rituals and try to discredit Jesus Christ at every corner - and push transgenderism and homosexuality any chance they get.
Wonder what the evolutionary benefit to that is.
BRB let me just ponder on why the world is run by a bunch of p3dophiles who openly perform satanic rituals and try to discredit Jesus Christ at every corner - and push transgenderism and homosexuality any chance they get.
Wonder what the evolutionary benefit to that is.
You're an obtuse ph a ggot who disregards answers to the questions he's asking
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03-21-2024, 05:23 AM
#178
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
I’ve personally seen parrots do things a human baby wouldn’t be able to do. The real question is why this matters to you so much. Apparently you’re so desperate for an old book to tell you you’re special you deny the world around you.
My arse they are - only a complete moron would say that any animal on earth is even remotely as intelligent as a human being in terms of cognitive function.
Reminds me of the lost causes that spend their entire life working with these animals and training them to perform basic tasks in hopes of 'discovering' something 'new' about 'evolution'.
User name is an oxymoron - I should not need to explain that.
Reminds me of the lost causes that spend their entire life working with these animals and training them to perform basic tasks in hopes of 'discovering' something 'new' about 'evolution'.
User name is an oxymoron - I should not need to explain that.
03-21-2024, 05:28 AM
#179
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
All that education, and you managed to misspell "psychologist" twice in a row.
Macroevolution is true. The evidence for it is overwhelming.
Do you really think no one is working on this question of human intelligence? We have cognitive psyhchologists, evolutionary psyhchogolists, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, zooologists, ethologists putting out thousands of publications on this.
Really, have you done any reading here? There are perfectly sensible answers why only humans are this intelligent. Intellect is a massive evolutionary investment. The human brain takes up 20% of calories. That makes great demands on us to live, we have to work pretty hard.
That's actually the reason why we're born as helpless babies. We need to be born prematurely so our heads can fit out of our mum's kunts. Then we develop outside the womb for years needing full time care.
You acctually need a lot of coincident things to exploit the benefits of intelligence. Language, social structures, free hands to manipulate the environment. It's quite a tight bottleneck to pass through. For a lot of animals, the demands of a brain that size just might not be worth the price of admission.
Do you really think no one is working on this question of human intelligence? We have cognitive psyhchologists, evolutionary psyhchogolists, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, zooologists, ethologists putting out thousands of publications on this.
Really, have you done any reading here? There are perfectly sensible answers why only humans are this intelligent. Intellect is a massive evolutionary investment. The human brain takes up 20% of calories. That makes great demands on us to live, we have to work pretty hard.
That's actually the reason why we're born as helpless babies. We need to be born prematurely so our heads can fit out of our mum's kunts. Then we develop outside the womb for years needing full time care.
You acctually need a lot of coincident things to exploit the benefits of intelligence. Language, social structures, free hands to manipulate the environment. It's quite a tight bottleneck to pass through. For a lot of animals, the demands of a brain that size just might not be worth the price of admission.
Also, "zoologist" has only three o's, not four.
03-21-2024, 05:31 AM
#180
Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
when people say "I don't believe in evolution" they mean to say that they don't believe that they come from a monkey - and what they're actually saying is that they don't believe in the field of study which purports that humanity shares an ancestor with a chimpanzee. That's what the threat title is about. I don't see what genetic drift or epigenetic modifications being passed onto offspring has to do with that concept, which is the direction that you were headed in.
Next time just say that your post is about Jesus, not Darwin
You're an obtuse ph a ggot who disregards answers to the questions he's asking
You're an obtuse ph a ggot who disregards answers to the questions he's asking
BRB reading about the 100 different genders that the US government is pushing onto the populace for some undisclosed and mysterious reason.
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Well yeah that's because it's a baby - have you seen what a parrot's baby looks like?
I’ve personally seen parrots do things a human baby wouldn’t be able to do. The real question is why this matters to you so much. Apparently you’re so desperate for an old book to tell you you’re special you deny the world around you.
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