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05-07-2024, 08:11 PM
#151
Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
All that proves is that religious superstition is inherent to the human psyche.

Those 40 million people having religious experiences is no more proof the veracity of those experiences, than a schizophrenic’s delusions is proof that he himself is really God.

If anything, your argument is more a proof that supernatural phenomena actually do not exist, given that all 40 million of those people have vastly different experiences which contradict each other.
Fine tuning of the universe and basic principles/laws of science confirm otherwise
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05-07-2024, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Actually if you reference the bible correctly, you're speaking on behalf of God, since the bible is the Word of God.
If you ever spoke to God you would not have the ego about such things you do not understand that you do
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05-07-2024, 08:14 PM
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If you ever spoke to God you would not have the ego about such things you do not understand that you do
God is very unlikely to speak to a human being - if you think you've spoken to God, you've most likely been speaking to a demon.

Look at the bible in the OT and the system that was in place - you don't just get to God, not without the Son.
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05-07-2024, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Actually if you reference the bible correctly, you're speaking on behalf of God, since the bible is the Word of God.
Here’s a perfect window into the motivations of the religious. They want to feel important, and special. And how do they accomplish that? By believing that they themself speak on behalf of the creator of the entire cosmos.
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05-07-2024, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Fine tuning of the universe and basic principles/laws of science confirm otherwise
God of the gaps argument, logical fallacy

Just because science can’t explain why or how something got here, doesn’t mean that the answer is magic
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05-07-2024, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
Here’s a perfect window into the motivations of the religious. They want to feel important, and special. And how do they accomplish that? By believing that they themself speak on behalf of the creator of the entire cosmos.
Not directly, no, but by referencing the word of God.

That's what I am warning about - if you think you've been contacted by God or an angel, it's most likely a devil.

Stick to Jesus and the bible.
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05-07-2024, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Not directly, no, but by referencing the word of God.
You just said you speak on behalf of God. That’s a great insight into how your mind works (it doesn’t)
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05-07-2024, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
You just said you speak on behalf of God. That’s a great insight into how your mind works (it doesn’t)
No, I said that the bible is the Word of God and who ever references the bible in its fullness is speaking the word of God.
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05-07-2024, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
God of the gaps argument, logical fallacy

Just because science can’t explain why or how something got here, doesn’t mean that the answer is magic
God of the gaps is a false equivalency, labeling something does not make it true or false. What makes something true or false is if we can verify it what we know with scientific principles and observed reality..in which the Bible is completely accurate in this regard while the popular atheist notion is failing at best.
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05-07-2024, 08:23 PM
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i'm a child of god and i do feel special and important, boys
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05-07-2024, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
No, I said that the bible is the Word of God and who ever references the bible in its fullness is speaking the word of God.
No, you said you speak on behalf of God. Kind of interesting to see that you view yourself as some kind of personal emissary of the CREATOR. Like wow man, get a grip on yourself.
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05-07-2024, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
God of the gaps is a false equivalency, labeling something does not make it true or false. What makes something true or false is if we can verify it what we know with scientific principles and observed reality..in which the Bible is completely accurate in this regard while the popular atheist notion is failing at best.
Nothing you said makes any sense here, it’s literally all just nonsense. So I will repeat what I said.

Just because science can’t explain something, doesn’t mean that the answer is MAGIC.
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05-07-2024, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
No, you said you speak on behalf of God. Kind of interesting to see that you view yourself as some kind of personal emissary of the CREATOR. Like wow man, get a grip on yourself.
When an lawyer is sided with the government and references the government's documents (laws) when defending the state - what are they doing?

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Nothing you said makes any sense here, it’s literally all just nonsense. So I will repeat what I said.

Just because science can’t explain something, doesn’t mean that the answer is MAGIC.
It's not magic - the physical reality was made to be physical on purpose.

The spirit has a direct effect on the physical and it is also believed that the physical is a manifestation of the spiritual.
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05-07-2024, 08:28 PM
#164
Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
I must say that this type of brainless, self-righteous, pat-myself-on-the-back, cookie-cutter, milquetoast sort of religious syntax is obviously not intended to change the minds of anyone you’re communicating with, but is instead simply a way for you to feel (mistakenly) that you are somehow better than everyone else.
Wow that's quite the presumption you have about me and others. I don't think I'm better than anyone, I am a sinner, and the closer I get to God, the more wretched of a person I realize I am.

People like you think you can deny God in your arrogance, you'll find out why that's a mistake
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05-07-2024, 08:29 PM
#165
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Wow that's quite the presumption you have about me and others. I don't think I'm better than anyone, I am a sinner, and the closer I get to God, the more wretched of a person I realize I am.

People like you think you can deny God in your arrogance, you'll find out why that's a mistake
There's no point of even saying "I told you so" or "you'll see" - I have experienced this first hand, you just realise how mistaken and deceived you were and there's nothing you can do about it.

I was no different to ausariac
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05-07-2024, 08:30 PM
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Nothing you said makes any sense here, it’s literally all just nonsense. So I will repeat what I said.

Just because science can’t explain something, doesn’t mean that the answer is MAGIC.
It's not magic..it's deductive reasoning from a scientific and logical stance and observed reality. All creation has a creator, and something cannot come from nothing..but go ahead..reason through it
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05-07-2024, 08:38 PM
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reason with him about the holy spirit for proof, boys. the peace after baptisim

get on him, boys. don't let this one slip through, he would be a real asset. a fighter
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05-07-2024, 08:41 PM
#168
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
It's not magic..it's deductive reasoning from a scientific and logical stance and observed reality. All creation has a creator, and something cannot come from nothing..but go ahead..reason through it
What's funny is that the top scientists are basically saying that reality is an illusion with various forces interpolating with each other - but whose illusion is it?

Magic is essentially just the manipulation of the physical reality (the illusion) by the spiritual beings (those behind the illusion) - it's real, but illegal according to God.

These people know that God is real, they are just being obtuse and making stupid arguments to bypass God - think the concept of brahman or Ein Sof.
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05-07-2024, 08:46 PM
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You didn't post any picture of gods from gobekli - you just posted pictures and figurines of animals
Didnt say anything about gods, every sentence you write is just loaded with logical fallacies srs. You are a walking talking cliche.

Not even a slight stretch to infer it was a worshipping site. Plenty of arguments going back way further than this of supernatural belief in homo sapiens to explain existence and the world around us e.g. first poeples of Australia/New Guinea aka Sahul, the former being mostly isolated for a very long time (but not completely) with a comparitively unchanged culture until relatively recently.
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05-07-2024, 08:47 PM
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It's not magic - the physical reality was made to be physical on purpose.

The spirit has a direct effect on the physical and it is also believed that the physical is a manifestation of the spiritual.
The world isn’t magic, that’s correct. But the fact that we can’t explain how it got here, doesn’t mean that it was created by magic.
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05-07-2024, 08:49 PM
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It's not magic..it's deductive reasoning from a scientific and logical stance and observed reality. All creation has a creator, and something cannot come from nothing..but go ahead..reason through it
The universe always existed, therefore no creation is necessary.

You’re just moving the problem up one level, so it doesn’t go away. If something cannot come from nothing, and everything has a creator, then who created God? And if your answer is that God always existed and therefore doesn’t require a creator, then we can say the same about the cosmos, and in so doing, obviate the necessity of anything magical.
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05-07-2024, 08:50 PM
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Didnt say anything about gods, every sentence you write is just loaded with logical fallacies srs. You are a walking talking cliche.

Not even a slight stretch to infer it was a worshipping site. Plenty of arguments going back way further than this of supernatural belief in homo sapiens to explain existence and the world around us e.g. first poeples of Australia/New Guinea aka Sahul, the former being mostly isolated for a very long time (but not completely) with a comparitively unchanged culture until relatively recently.
Looks like a settlement with decorative figurines tbh
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05-07-2024, 08:51 PM
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The world isn’t magic, that’s correct. But the fact that we can’t explain how it got here, doesn’t mean that it was created by magic.
You don't know what magic is (SRS).

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The universe always existed, therefore no creation is necessary.

You’re just moving the problem up one level, so it doesn’t go away. If something cannot come from nothing, and everything has a creator, then who created God? And if your answer is that God always existed and therefore doesn’t require a creator, then we can say the same about the cosmos.
Hmm - are the top scientists not saying that it was created by a big bang?

God was always there
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05-07-2024, 08:56 PM
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05-07-2024, 09:07 PM
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Any argument you make for god also holds for the flying spaghetti monster.
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05-07-2024, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
You don't know what magic is (SRS).

Hmm - are the top scientists not saying that it was created by a big bang?

God was always there
Science can’t explain it? It’s magic!

The Big Bang wasn’t the beginning.
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05-07-2024, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
The universe always existed, therefore no creation is necessary.

You’re just moving the problem up one level, so it doesn’t go away. If something cannot come from nothing, and everything has a creator, then who created God? And if your answer is that God always existed and therefore doesn’t require a creator, then we can say the same about the cosmos, and in so doing, obviate the necessity of anything magical.
Are you legit retarded..the universe had a beginning, background radiation echo tells us this, every single scientest confirms the universe had a beginning..just as the Bible states.

You need something outside of time space and matter to create time space and matter, therefore the cause cannot be the effect..I can see you have not studied any of this
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05-07-2024, 09:19 PM
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Any argument you make for god also holds for the flying spaghetti monster.
except no one believes in flying spaghetti monsters

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Science can’t explain it? It’s magic!

The Big Bang wasn’t the beginning.
Magic is the manipulation of what is behind the physical world to get a desired result.

What was before the big bang?
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05-07-2024, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
except no one believes in flying spaghetti monsters



Magic is the manipulation of what is behind the physical world to get a desired result.

What was before the big bang?
How dare you. They are an established religion.

https://www.spaghettimonster.org/

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05-07-2024, 09:27 PM
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How dare you. They are an established religion.

https://www.spaghettimonster.org/

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Yeah but they are not a true religion - they are mocking christianity.

This without God, there would be no spaghetti monster - it is an effect of a cause (Christianity).

Hence the spaghetti monster is a creation not a creator.

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