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03-09-2017, 08:12 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me given how many cashed up pixel peeping cat photographers there are out there. However medium format is a studio camera .
Vivian Maier is going to be zombie snatching money out of ignorant pockets. She's still a recent phenomenon that is part of the current high level of interest in street and medium format. As soon as people realize they actually have to do photography, GFXes are going to show up on the used market. I'm excited about all the downward pressure that is going to be put on the "studio camera" part of the market.
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03-10-2017, 05:03 AM
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03-10-2017, 05:18 AM
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Vivian Maier is going to be zombie snatching money out of ignorant pockets. She's still a recent phenomenon that is part of the current high level of interest in street and medium format. As soon as people realize they actually have to do photography, GFXes are going to show up on the used market. I'm excited about all the downward pressure that is going to be put on the "studio camera" part of the market.
Don't get me wrong, I think what Fuji is offering is great. I've said in the past that I'd like to see Nikon move into that space. They could modify existing tilt-shift lens designs to accommodate a larger mount and gradually expand the range.

I'm just not tempted by MF right now and would prefer something more versatile. A D820/D850 with a 46mp sensor, 6fps and 8fps in crop with D5 level AF would fit the bill. A lot of landscape photographers also shoot wildlife when the opportunity arises and it would save carrying an extra body like a D500 or D5.
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03-10-2017, 06:38 AM
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All the time, I've had mine for just about a year now and it has barely left my camera. I just try to keep the shutter speed above 1/60th when I'm on the long end. I do have enormous hands though which are like mini tripods.

I'm also getting an 85L later this month on loan from CPS for 10 days, considering one for my next purchase.
this, I have the 2.8II as well and have used it handheld, normally above 1/80.

I love my 85 1.8, wish I could afford the L but I just picked up a macro lens

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03-10-2017, 09:11 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I think what Fuji is offering is great. I've said in the past that I'd like to see Nikon move into that space. They could modify existing tilt-shift lens designs to accommodate a larger mount and gradually expand the range.

I'm just not tempted by MF right now and would prefer something more versatile. A D820/D850 with a 46mp sensor, 6fps and 8fps in crop with D5 level AF would fit the bill. A lot of landscape photographers also shoot wildlife when the opportunity arises and it would save carrying an extra body like a D500 or D5.
I was filling in my reasoning why I think the prices on used (the only way to buy) high MP FF bodies will be dropping in the future.

Next summer there will be cheap GFXs everywhere from holiday buyers realizing traveling with the camera is the equivalent of always having a piece of luggage.
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03-10-2017, 11:08 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I think what Fuji is offering is great. I've said in the past that I'd like to see Nikon move into that space. They could modify existing tilt-shift lens designs to accommodate a larger mount and gradually expand the range.

I'm just not tempted by MF right now and would prefer something more versatile. A D820/D850 with a 46mp sensor, 6fps and 8fps in crop with D5 level AF would fit the bill. A lot of landscape photographers also shoot wildlife when the opportunity arises and it would save carrying an extra body like a D500 or D5.
Basically this, Ive owned a D800 (non E) since release and haven't felt compelled to change since, yes I wish I'd known the 810 was coming out 6 months later from my date of purchase for the extra stop of recoverable shadows and better AF but it is what it is. Id also like to see the AF system of the D5, along with built in WIFI, ~40-50k MP with no AA filter and no shutter issues of the past (oil spots etc), a few more FPS (8-9 with grip would be sick) and 4k video out of the box. I dont think this would be unreasonable to ask for, maybe 9 fps is pushing it for a high MP camera but it should definitely be higher than 6 with a grip of the D800, the AF system of the D5 is a baseline requirement considering D500 got it and most major competitors can do 30min+ native 4k now.

Im in the market this year for a high end photo printer this year so doubtful Ill be able to justify getting the upgraded body as well unless im shooting a TON.

Also I feel we are coming to a pro-sumer limit for megapixels, already with the D800 and onwards we are noticing a large amount of drop off in the glass department where it has become the major bottleneck in terms of end results quality, you are only going to get the very most out of all these MP with the very best glass and that means going into territory most people except the very fortunate hobbyist and professionals can afford / justify to.
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03-10-2017, 12:18 PM
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03-10-2017, 12:21 PM
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love it, would be really interested to see the exact same shot taken at sunrise/sunset and on days with different lights with the same long shutter effect and a short series of the different outcomes.
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03-10-2017, 04:48 PM
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Also I feel we are coming to a pro-sumer limit for megapixels, already with the D800 and onwards we are noticing a large amount of drop off in the glass department where it has become the major bottleneck in terms of end results quality, you are only going to get the very most out of all these MP with the very best glass and that means going into territory most people except the very fortunate hobbyist and professionals can afford / justify to.
There is a reason the photo sites on sensors can't be made smaller. I don't remember exactly why, but I think the result may be a loss of dynamic range.

The sensor improvements are going to be RGBW sensors and a global shutter. The RGBW sensors will provide several stops of low light performance when compared to current sensors.

A global shutter will read the entire sensor at once. This will remove rolling shutter from video and allow flash sync at any speed without HSS or a leaf shutter.
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03-10-2017, 04:53 PM
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Im in the market this year for a high end photo printer this year so doubtful Ill be able to justify getting the upgraded body as well unless im shooting a TON.

Also I feel we are coming to a pro-sumer limit for megapixels, already with the D800 and onwards we are noticing a large amount of drop off in the glass department where it has become the major bottleneck in terms of end results quality, you are only going to get the very most out of all these MP with the very best glass and that means going into territory most people except the very fortunate hobbyist and professionals can afford / justify to.
There are so many other pieces of gear that can improve results over a new camera body. Lighting gear in the studio and on location, better tripod and pano head for landscapes, and of course buying more glass. Add to that improving your skill processing images. It's definitely reached a point of diminishing returns as you said where an extra 5-10mp or a stop of ISO isn't making enough of a difference to the end result to justify upgrading or investing in a new system.

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I was filling in my reasoning why I think the prices on used (the only way to buy) high MP FF bodies will be dropping in the future.

Next summer there will be cheap GFXs everywhere from holiday buyers realizing traveling with the camera is the equivalent of always having a piece of luggage.
Good points. I just think Nikon and Canon have better overall systems and are more versatile. Seen a lot of people on forums over the last 10-15 years flip flop and waste a lot of money.

As you know a D810 in crop mode with a grip gives you 7fps with a decent buffer and a very capable AF system so while it's never going to be the best tool for the job action it can still get the job done. And then you can take it into the studio and go out and shoot landscapes.

It's great that Fuji is bridging the gap but how much better will it be over a 5DsR? It's not like a 100mp Phase One or Hassy with an even larger sensor where it's like night and day.

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03-10-2017, 05:53 PM
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It's great that Fuji is bridging the gap but how much better will it be over a 5DsR?
It's better by 2 stops of dynamic range, has a headphone jack, and is newer.
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03-11-2017, 08:36 AM
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03-11-2017, 01:35 PM
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Speaking of photo printers in my last post, I completely passed by the fact that some of you guys may have some excellent advice in regards to what are the best consumer printers out there at the moment.

Some context of usage: I recently got invited to the premier photography club in my country (N.Ireland) and the club is heavily involved in national and international competitions and seem to print a ton of images to send abroad and display at home.

I got recommended the Epson 3880 (now succeeded by the P800) A2 printer by one of the members and have myself read a lot of good things about the Canon prograf pro-1000, but would like to hear of alternatives or good/bad stories about the above, both sit around 1000 in the uk (vat 20% rip) but realistically thats a worthwhile investment seeing ive spent 8x that on glass.
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03-11-2017, 06:14 PM
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Just LOL at going anywhere near that water.

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Speaking of photo printers in my last post, I completely passed by the fact that some of you guys may have some excellent advice in regards to what are the best consumer printers out there at the moment.
What about just paying a high quality printer to do it for you? You'll pay more per print, but unless you do tons of printing, you could come out ahead. You would be able to get prints larger than 420 594 millimeters (16.54 23.39 inches) done on higher quality equipment.
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03-14-2017, 12:33 PM
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where do you brahs usually do prints and canvases from?

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03-14-2017, 12:48 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BRoVCsslyxV/?hl=en

This was my first attempt at a Time Lapse. The sky was crazy. Only moved the shadow slider up a bit to get more detail in from the foreground. Didnt touch anything to do with saturation or vibrance.
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where do you brahs usually do prints and canvases from?

shot of kansas city I took a few months ago
I get my canvas prints from easycanvasprints.com, good quality and price.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BRoVCsslyxV/?hl=en

This was my first attempt at a Time Lapse. The sky was crazy. Only moved the shadow slider up a bit to get more detail in from the foreground. Didnt touch anything to do with saturation or vibrance.
Nice job. When it reached the end I wanted it to play in reverse. Really like the way you process your night shots.
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03-14-2017, 07:15 PM
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Just LOL at going anywhere near that water.

They dye it green for the St. Patrick's Day parade, which was held this past weekend
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They dye it green for the St. Patrick's Day parade, which was held this past weekend
He might be talking about the 10 billion turds floating around in there.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...827-story.html
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03-15-2017, 05:08 AM
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03-15-2017, 11:18 AM
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I always feel like my photos are terrible or plain boring so I don't bother sharing. Do any of you ever feel like this?

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I always feel like my photos are terrible or plain boring so I don't bother sharing. Do any of you ever feel like this?

About your photos or mine?

Serioulsy, I'm sure every photographer has that feeling at some point or other. The point it, to have your photos say something – about you, the environment, society, etc.

Consider your subject matter and have a clear focal point – you've done that in the above. Even though the ideas aren't new, the way you set it up (composition) makes it unique.
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I always feel like my photos are terrible or plain boring so I don't bother sharing. Do any of you ever feel like this?

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With the above shot I would move to the right a little to center the steps in the frame and get them all in focus by stopping down, checking focus front to back in live view. In low light, especially without IS/VR, you might need a tripod.

Nearly everyone would experience that feeling you described. I have to be pushed to share my work. I know it should be enjoyable but it's easy to become too critical of what you're doing, especially the longer you do it. Of course when you do share it that's when it no longer matters what you think. You might prefer to take a shot again at sunset while someone else might love the mood of it overcast, etc.

Most important thing is to enjoy it and try to learn something new each time. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
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picked me a drone the other day. going to try playing around with the videos soon.

Any thoughts on the HSS? seriously contemplating selling off my ABs and picking up xlors instead.


Lastly, Gains, where in Chicago are you? I thought you were just popping in/out before, didn't realize you were a full time Illinoian. How the hell did we not hang out still?
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Lastly, Gains, where in Chicago are you? I thought you were just popping in/out before, didn't realize you were a full time Illinoian. How the hell did we not hang out still?
I'm downtown right by millennium park. I'm shooting with another miscer in a few weeks, let's have a mini misc meat.

I'm planning on buying some new gear in the next couple of weeks. I'm thinking either a 6D to have as a second body + 100mm f/2.8L IS macro, or just an 85mm f/1.2L. I kind of feel like the 85L is due for a refresh being 11 years old now so idk, then again the 100 macro is no slouch at all plus I really need a 2nd body for shooting weddings. I do have an 85L coming in next week on loan from CPS for 10 days so at least I'll be able to try it out to see if I fall in love with it right away. Wat do misc?

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I'm planning on buying some new gear in the next couple of weeks. I'm thinking either a 6D to have as a second body + 100mm f/2.8L IS macro, or just an 85mm f/1.2L. I kind of feel like the 85L is due for a refresh being 11 years old now so idk, then again the 100 macro is no slouch at all plus I really need a 2nd body for shooting weddings. I do have an 85L coming in next week on loan from CPS for 10 days so at least I'll be able to try it out to see if I fall in love with it right away. Wat do misc?
Buy used and buy the second body plus macro. iPhones can't do macro shots. The macro isn't obnoxiously heavy. A second body allows you to use two lenses at once. At a wedding are you going to be swapping back and forth between the 85mm and 70-200mm?
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plus I really need a 2nd body for shooting weddings
Couldn't imagine shooting a wedding with one body. Something goes wrong and you're screwed not to mention you're going to be compromising a lot with a slower lens to cover the FL you need or be cropping heavily with a 24-70.

For the bulk of the ceremony and reception I used a 24-70 2.8 on one body and 70-200 2.8 on the other. I'd switch to faster primes when I had more time to walk around like when the B&G were getting ready, and for portraits and creative shots. The key advantage with the 2.8s was AF speed and accuracy. They never missed.

I only ever worked with an assistant so I'd always have a couple of extra bodies and all my lenses and lighting gear a few feet away but if I were flying solo I'd keep that stuff close by in the car. You take a stranger's money to cover their special day with no chance of going back and reshooting and you've got to be prepared for anything that goes wrong. If it rains, if the ceremony is outdoors in full midday sun, list goes on, you can't make excuses later.
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Couldn't imagine shooting a wedding with one body. Something goes wrong and you're screwed not to mention you're going to be compromising a lot with a slower lens to cover the FL you need or be cropping heavily with a 24-70.

For the bulk of the ceremony and reception I used a 24-70 2.8 on one body and 70-200 2.8 on the other. I'd switch to faster primes when I had more time to walk around like when the B&G were getting ready, and for portraits and creative shots. The key advantage with the 2.8s was AF speed and accuracy. They never missed.

I only ever worked with an assistant so I'd always have a couple of extra bodies and all my lenses and lighting gear a few feet away but if I were flying solo I'd keep that stuff close by in the car. You take a stranger's money to cover their special day with no chance of going back and reshooting and you've got to be prepared for anything that goes wrong. If it rains, if the ceremony is outdoors in full midday sun, list goes on, you can't make excuses later.
The weddings I've shot so far have all been w/my second shooter, but I have a few coming up this year where I'll be solo. Def think I'm gonna pick up another body first.
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