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01-23-2023, 05:50 AM
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Well….here's my latest effort and collab with Ken Lasaine on lead guitar and rhythm guitar.

Figured I'd throw it against the forum wall
I didn't play my Tele on this one….just Ken with his LP
Title says it all…. "Be Careful What You Wish For (a cautionary tale)"

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No more new ones on my plate….ATM, that is.

Thanks to any that give it a spin….hope you found it worthy of your time

Verse1:
Young and restless, it’s time to move on. A broken family, I’m done with it all.
Like the loner with little to say. I’ll catch you later, maybe someday.
It might be crazy, but I have a plan. “Well come on in son and raise your right hand.”
I had my reasons and the time was right. I made my reservation and said my good byes'.
Chorus:
If you’re looking for a desperate escape, I have a suggestion. Be careful what you wish for it might be dangerous lesson.
Verse 2:
It won’t be easy and it won’t be safe. What I was chasing was a double edged blade. It will be risky and no guarantees. If you jump in the river, better flow with the stream. Where it takes me, I don’t have a clue. If you want to be a man you have a whole lot to prove. Pay close attention and follow the rules. Don’t expect to have a room with a view.
Chorus:
If you’re looking for a desperate escape, I have a suggestion. Be careful what you wish for it might be dangerous lesson.
Lead break:
Verse 3:

Standard issue. Just follow the rest. What lies ahead could be anyone’s guess. I wanted some action, here’s what he said: “We got you covered”….they gave me a vest. Approaching the gangway to choppers on deck. My load is heavy and I’m breaking a sweat. I climbed aboard with a knot in my gut. It’s my last Operation , will I run out of luck?
Chorus:
If you’re looking for a desperate escape, I have a suggestion. Be careful what you wish for it might be a dangerous lesson.
Verse 1 (repeat 2 lines only):
Young and restless, it’s time to move on. A broken family, I’m done with it all. Like the loner with little to say. I’ll catch you later, maybe someday.
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Abm// Copyright: Wayne Evans – Music & Lyrics 9/5/22

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01-24-2023, 02:07 PM
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Lol those comparisons are just dumb.

Hybrid picking eliminates the need to cleanly do upstrokes with the pick when changing strings, it’s not a proportionate comparison to alternate picking versus downpicking or sweep picking.
If someone is trying to specifically play a study or solo that is demonstrating or highlighting difficult alternate cross picking and uses hybrid, sweep, or tapping to circumvent the difficulty then sure, but these are legitimate right hand approaches that have their own characteristics and unique sets of difficulties. Similarly, some of these thrash guys play 16ths at 130+ with all downstrokes on rhythm parts. It would be far easier to just alternate pick it and call it a day, but that would be seen as cheating in that world.
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01-24-2023, 02:36 PM
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If someone is trying to specifically play a study or solo that is demonstrating or highlighting difficult alternate cross picking and uses hybrid, sweep, or tapping to circumvent the difficulty then sure, but these are legitimate right hand approaches that have their own characteristics and unique sets of difficulties. Similarly, some of these thrash guys play 16ths at 130+ with all downstrokes on rhythm parts. It would be far easier to just alternate pick it and call it a day, but that would be seen as cheating in that world.
Still just a dumb comparison to me. This isn't a tone discussion, this is a technique one. There are things that simply cannot be played cleanly and up to speed with alternate picking that can be done with hybrid picking as well as things that are drastically easier to play with hybrid picking instead of alternate picking. Whereas you can replace ANY down-picking with alternate picking for the same type of result, some tonal differences notwithstanding.

And sure alternate picking instead of down picking can be seen as cheating but imo there's a huge difference when it comes to hybrid picking and alternate picking. Anyone can down pick or hybrid pick, not everyone can alternate pick in the true sense of the term and I frequently catch guitarists doing hybrid picking due to a clear lack of alternate picking facility.
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01-25-2023, 07:43 AM
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01-25-2023, 08:19 AM
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01-26-2023, 05:15 AM
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First post in this thread. I found this scene of Eddie blasting out 'Master of Puppets' in season 4 Stranger Things one of the best scenes of the whole series.



Apologies if clip has already been posted, I have not trawled through 61 page thread.
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01-26-2023, 09:42 AM
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Still just a dumb comparison to me. This isn't a tone discussion, this is a technique one. There are things that simply cannot be played cleanly and up to speed with alternate picking that can be done with hybrid picking as well as things that are drastically easier to play with hybrid picking instead of alternate picking. Whereas you can replace ANY down-picking with alternate picking for the same type of result, some tonal differences notwithstanding.

And sure alternate picking instead of down picking can be seen as cheating but imo there's a huge difference when it comes to hybrid picking and alternate picking. Anyone can down pick or hybrid pick, not everyone can alternate pick in the true sense of the term and I frequently catch guitarists doing hybrid picking due to a clear lack of alternate picking facility.
No one disputes it's easier to hybrid pick a string skipping passage. It doesn't bother me at all, but it did back in the day because guitar was a sporting event back then so I get it. I just don't want anyone to lose sight that high-level hybrid picking is every bit as difficult as high-level alternate picking.
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01-26-2023, 10:20 AM
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No one disputes it's easier to hybrid pick a string skipping passage. It doesn't bother me at all, but it did back in the day because guitar was a sporting event back then so I get it. I just don't want anyone to lose sight that high-level hybrid picking is every bit as difficult as high-level alternate picking.
Of course hybrid picking can be crazy difficult as based upon the difficulty of the music but still, in nearly every instance other than fast tremolo picking and super fast sweeped arpeggios, hybrid picking is easier than alternate picking.

I suppose it annoys me because I spent a lot of time and effort developing a powerful alternate picking technique and I dislike when I see players circumventing learning how to properly alternate pick by using hybrid picking.
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01-26-2023, 06:14 PM
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Sure it's advantageous to use certain picking techniques for certain things, ( for certain people). Can you truly hybrid pick a Paul Gilbert ascending or descending run, maybe. Is alternate picking 3 notes on one string and jumping a string or two to pluck a note with your finger really hybrid picking? I don't think it is.

Is tapping cheating? Are open tunings cheating? Is drop D cheating?

With that being said I'm a much better alternate picker than I am a hybrid picker
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01-26-2023, 08:08 PM
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Sure it's advantageous to use certain picking techniques for certain things, ( for certain people). Can you truly hybrid pick a Paul Gilbert ascending or descending run, maybe. Is alternate picking 3 notes on one string and jumping a string or two to pluck a note with your finger really hybrid picking? I don't think it is.

Is tapping cheating? Are open tunings cheating? Is drop D cheating?

With that being said I'm a much better alternate picker than I am a hybrid picker
See that's the thing that tends to irk me though, is when someone is alternate picking 3 notes on one string and then uses their finger to pluck the adjacent lower strings instead of actually picking it. Call me petty but it's just a pet peeve of mine.
Now that being said if someone is using their finger in that context to accentuate a strong, snappy sound I can understand that as long as they're are able to alternate pick the same thing.

When I say cheating I really mean foregoing learning proper alternate picking technique due to laziness. I guess I tend to hold a pretty high standard of expectation from guitarists when it comes to physical technique because I think guitarists, more than pretty much any other type of instrumentalists, often get a pass when they shouldn't when it comes to sloppy or incorrect technique.

Every other classical instrument has a very specific way of employing proper technique whereas historically guitarist tended to be all over the fukking place. Since the advent of youtube and things like cracking the code we are finally starting to see what the actually correct physical approach is, so with all these resources now available I have even less tolerance for guitarists who don't respect the instrument enough to spend the time to learn to play it correctly.

And to me alternate picking is the meat and potatoes of guitar playing, unless of course you're playing classical/flamenco. Of course there are impressive things in country like banjo-style rolls and such but I still think the first and most fundamental thing a guitarist should master for the right hand is basic alternate picking.
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01-26-2023, 09:04 PM
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See that's the thing that tends to irk me though, is when someone is alternate picking 3 notes on one string and then uses their finger to pluck the adjacent lower strings instead of actually picking it. Call me petty but it's just a pet peeve of mine.
Now that being said if someone is using their finger in that context to accentuate a strong, snappy sound I can understand that as long as they're are able to alternate pick the same thing.

When I say cheating I really mean foregoing learning proper alternate picking technique due to laziness. I guess I tend to hold a pretty high standard of expectation from guitarists when it comes to physical technique because I think guitarists, more than pretty much any other type of instrumentalists, often get a pass when they shouldn't when it comes to sloppy or incorrect technique.

Every other classical instrument has a very specific way of employing proper technique whereas historically guitarist tended to be all over the fukking place. Since the advent of youtube and things like cracking the code we are finally starting to see what the actually correct physical approach is, so with all these resources now available I have even less tolerance for guitarists who don't respect the instrument enough to spend the time to learn to play it correctly.

And to me alternate picking is the meat and potatoes of guitar playing, unless of course you're playing classical/flamenco. Of course there are impressive things in country like banjo-style rolls and such but I still think the first and most fundamental thing a guitarist should master for the right hand is basic alternate picking.
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01-26-2023, 09:13 PM
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Which makes it even more respectable that your bread and butter technique is alternate picking.
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01-26-2023, 09:30 PM
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Actually playing chords is the meat and tatters of guitar playing. I wish I knew that when I was young. Playing over mostly power chords is castrating
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Actually playing chords is the meat and tatters of guitar playing. I wish I knew that when I was young. Playing over mostly power chords is castrating
If we're venturing forth from single note technique than I might have to agree. I'm working on expanding my chordal and theory knowledge as it is still woefully underdeveloped comparatively.
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If we're venturing forth from single note technique than I might have to agree. I'm working on expanding my chordal and theory knowledge as it is still woefully underdeveloped comparatively.
I never thought we were talking about single note techniques. The strength of hybrid picking is it can be, or double or triples. Alternate picking, not so easy
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I never thought we were talking about single note techniques. The strength of hybrid picking is it can be, or double or triples. Alternate picking, not so easy
Ah, in the case of this current discussion my point was around single note technique and using hybrid picking to pick adjacent strings in the place of just using the pick instead.
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01-28-2023, 08:48 PM
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Actually playing chords is the meat and tatters of guitar playing. I wish I knew that when I was young. Playing over mostly power chords is castrating
I listen to a lot of rock and metal not so much fusion and jazz so jamming over power chords in the pentatonic is plenty fun for me personally.
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I listen to a lot of rock and metal not so much fusion and jazz so jamming over power chords in the pentatonic is plenty fun for me personally.
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01-30-2023, 01:07 AM
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morning brahs

i have a kemper which i'm gonna keep for recording cause it kicks ass.

but i really want to get my first good amp, I've had practice amps like Yamaha THR etc.

The problem is I want something to do Gilmour cleans but also want to shred it up and get some gain etc. Definitely want to have a pedalboard too, not sure what your guys opinion on effects loops are but one with would be cool.
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Actually playing chords is the meat and tatters of guitar playing. I wish I knew that when I was young. Playing over mostly power chords is castrating
Howdy BNP…..

Subjectively speaking, I agree.

I've always preferred playing rhythm rather than lead.
Especially, if playing live and I get conned into singing.

I've played lead on a few of my originals but I don't think I'm proficient at it.
So….I have my collaborator-in-chief play lead (and some rhythm) while I stick to song writing and playing rhythm guitar on my drivel.

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If we're venturing forth from single note technique than I might have to agree. I'm working on expanding my chordal and theory knowledge as it is still woefully underdeveloped comparatively.

That's a wise decision, my recommendation? Get into jazz and fusion and jazz theory if you aren't already. A good resource.

There's also the ultimate encyclopedia of scales and modes: Thesaurus of scales and modes


I don't know why so many people get bogged down in the pentatonic scale, where there is a whole other world of modes and chords and harmonies to draw upon in expressing oneself.
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brahs should i get a poweramp and cab for my kember, or get a tube amp & cab?
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RB, I saw your post before you deleted it. Just my 2 cents re: a "daily driver." Get something no frills in a solid color so wear on it won't bother you.

Regardless of what you spend dinging and scratching those fancy burst finishes is going to annoy you. They're nice to look at but have you noticed many of the great players don't play guitars with finishes like that?

Jeff Beck, Malmsteen, Vai, Andy Timmons, all played beat up old white guitars.
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RB, I saw your post before you deleted it. Just my 2 cents re: a "daily driver." Get something no frills in a solid color so wear on it won't bother you.

Regardless of what you spend dinging and scratching those fancy burst finishes is going to annoy you. They're nice to look at but have you noticed many of the great players don't play guitars with finishes like that?

Jeff Beck, Malmsteen, Vai, Andy Timmons, all played beat up old white guitars.
Yeah I'm actually being really fickle these days and I decided I don't think I want any of those I had previously linked.

Essentially what I think I really want is a Charvel speed neck profile. But with a roasted maple neck and stainless steel frets. This only comes at a very high price point it seems. I want my daily driver also to have my most preferred neck I think.

And I will say this, I really liked the way my Charvel played and felt but it's super drab grey paint job was making me depressed just looking at it so I sold it. It was like looking into the face of purgatory. AND getting dings and scratches on that guitar also bothered me regardless!

I want a rich, vibrant top even if it's a veneer that's just 1 molecule thick of wood.
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Actually tbh the Charvel fancy tops don't even look that great lol. Maybe I'll just get something like this, basically the double humbucker version of the HSS one I had previously but in a much less offensive black. No stainless steel frets though which actually is a bummer. I substantially prefer stainless steel to nickel.

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Actually tbh the Charvel fancy tops don't even look that great lol. Maybe I'll just get something like this, basically the double humbucker version of the HSS one I had previously but in a much less offensive black. No stainless steel frets though which actually is a bummer. I substantially prefer stainless steel to nickel.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...hh-gloss-black
You like what you like. I prefer car colors on guitars especially as a "daily driver." Those fancy tops make great guitar porn but I wouldn't want the added stress of trying to keep it unblemished.

I agree on stainless steel but you could always have it refretted with stainless or get a custom neck for it with roasted maple, stainless frets, etc.

In your shoes I'd get something used that's already got some wear on it and put a custom neck on it.
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You like what you like. I prefer car colors on guitars especially as a "daily driver." Those fancy tops make great guitar porn but I wouldn't want the added stress of trying to keep it unblemished.

I agree on stainless steel but you could always have it refretted with stainless or get a custom neck for it with roasted maple, stainless frets, etc.

In your shoes I'd get something used that's already got some wear on it and put a custom neck on it.
I prefer keeping the OEM necks on the guitars but I wouldn't be adverse to a refret with steel frets. I wonder how much that costs for a professional refret with pleking though.
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I prefer keeping the OEM necks on the guitars but I wouldn't be adverse to a refret with steel frets. I wonder how much that costs for a professional refret with pleking though.
To me that's the appeal of a bolt on neck guitar. As long as the headstock matches or looks okay with the body then why not spec out the exact neck you want and get on with the most important thing which is playing guitar and making music?

I play an Ibanez with a custom neck. If Ibanez made their custom shop open to the public then I'd have explored that but they don't so I got the specs I wanted which aren't available in production guitars. I'm a nobody like everyone else so I don't need to advertise a headstock shape and decal since no one's paying me a dime to play it. It's just two planks of wood. No need to romanticize it. Many great players experimented with piecing guitars together from parts and today people will pay thousands for exact replicas of the cheap sh*t they hacked and bolted together. Anyway…

If you play with a soft touch, light string gauge, super low action with the strings laying on the frets I can definitely see the Plek being worth it. Anything less will drive you crazy since a tech will struggle to get it right in one visit.

In my experience light strings + low action makes electric guitars sound really thin and sterile like it's sucking all the tone out so I quickly moved on from that — I raise the action, use heavier strings, and enjoy better tone. I'm also convinced fatter necks sound better. Not a hill I'm prepared to die on arguing with anyone but it's a preference. I'd never go back to those paper thin Ibanez necks. I'm a fan of roasted maple because the neck doesn't need a finish which feels better to me. Just my 2 cents.
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To me that's the appeal of a bolt on neck guitar. As long as the headstock matches or looks okay with the body then why not spec out the exact neck you want and get on with the most important thing which is playing guitar and making music?

I play an Ibanez with a custom neck. If Ibanez made their custom shop open to the public then I'd have explored that but they don't so I got the specs I wanted which aren't available in production guitars. I'm a nobody like everyone else so I don't need to advertise a headstock shape and decal since no one's paying me a dime to play it. It's just two planks of wood. No need to romanticize it. Many great players experimented with piecing guitars together from parts and today people will pay thousands for exact replicas of the cheap sh*t they hacked and bolted together. Anyway…

If you play with a soft touch, light string gauge, super low action with the strings laying on the frets I can definitely see the Plek being worth it. Anything less will drive you crazy since a tech will struggle to get it right in one visit.

In my experience light strings + low action makes electric guitars sound really thin and sterile like it's sucking all the tone out so I quickly moved on from that — I raise the action, use heavier strings, and enjoy better tone. I'm also convinced fatter necks sound better. Not a hill I'm prepared to die on arguing with anyone but it's a preference. I'd never go back to those paper thin Ibanez necks. I'm a fan of roasted maple because the neck doesn't need a finish which feels better to me. Just my 2 cents.
I’ve always disliked frankenstein guitars put together in parts for no other reason other than I just like to keep the OEM neck with the OEM body.
I’ve always rejected Warmoth for those reasons even though I could put an entire Warmoth guitar together.

I’ll change the pickups, tuners, the pots, even the bridge but I won’t put a different neck on, especially from a different manufacturer.

In some super distant way it’s related to collecting and keeping the piece relatively intact.

In terms of my touch - it’s pretty light. I’m good at pressing light with the fretting hand while picking hard. That being said my guitars tend to have relatively high action and string tension historically.
The reason for this was because I used to prefer to pick almost every note and I liked the bouncey response of higher tension.

Lately though I’ve become interested in developing a stronger legato technique which is leading me to want to try out lighter strings with lower action. Not too low, as I agree it weakens the tone, but as low as possible without too much tonal compromise.

Fatter necks may or may not sound better, I am unsure to this but I prefer thin shredder necks for fast playing.
For instance, I don’t really like the Fender Deep C neck profile. I want a guitar that’s around 19mm at the 1st fret and 20mm at the 12th that has a compound radius.

I play bolt-ons because they’re more available and cheaper but I would prefer neck-through construction. However I don’t think I’ve yet seen a neck-through body that’s roasted maple.

So yeah what I think I want is basically a Charvel DK24 HH USA model but those are just too expensive for a daily driver.
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