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post 1667823783 09-13-2022, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop
Every idiot in here shaking their fist in either direction is doing so at the expense of a real human soul. Without thought or conscious they don't care to even learn what is happening on the ground.

Russian units are fuking broadcasting it play by play on each front. Russians aren't even happy with the pace and performance of the units. It all goes back to the aforementioned. Prolonging the intentional death of military aged men who never stood a chance.

This is some seriously sadistic **** meant for payback.
Calm down, it's just a special military operation
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Originally Posted By memcop
Every idiot in here shaking their fist in either direction is doing so at the expense of a real human soul. Without thought or conscious they don't care to even learn what is happening on the ground.

Russian units are fuking broadcasting it play by play on each front. Russians aren't even happy with the pace and performance of the units. It all goes back to the aforementioned. Prolonging the intentional death of military aged men who never stood a chance.

This is some seriously sadistic **** meant for payback.
I'm sure most people would support a peace deal today if it favoured their side. Which is the entire problem and the reason there's a war. Russia isn't gonna sign a peace deal without any territorial gains and Ukraine doesn't want to give up land. Sure there's more details like a pro or anti EU stance from Ukraine and who runs the country. But most people aren't truly cheering on death and most of the people here celebrating every skirmish on either side are just trolls trying to rile up the chit posters on the other side.
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Originally Posted By 647584857
Calm down, it's just a special military operation
Don't forget...the Russians aren't even fighting.

Lmao that anyone supports Imperialism in 2022. No borders should ever be redrawn again. Respect sovereignty. Fuk Russia and fuk Russians. Complete orcs.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Less without the US doing their usual shady chit, of course. But can you blame the Ukrainian men fighting for their country. Imagine if you weren't being sent off to Iraq or Afghanistan to bomb a bunch of helpless goat fukkers who are unable to put up a fight, instead Russia has millions of men and artillery and military equipment lined up at the border with Mexico ready to invade? You might be lot more inclined to fight defending your own territory instead of in some overseas war for oil and power.

You could criticize Ukraine leadership, corruption and decision making. But can you really criticize the men fighting for their own country, territory and honour?
Sure if 1. the fight was impossible 2. weve been walled off at the border of CO/UT and skirmishing for 8 years and unable to seize it back and Arizona and New Mexico were already mostly Mexican and all spoke Spanish?

I haven't even mentioned what the redneck whitefolks from the MS/AL/LA National guard have been doing to those people

Context. I'm all about some fuk around and find out but this isn't the one. Both are corrupt **** holes. One is a nuclear **** hole, the other a neo nazi participating & tolerant ****hole
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Originally Posted By memcop
Potentially. I'm not one for "3d chess" but am one for taking people making threats at their word.

Chief Threat - "Demilitarization"
Would there be more troops killed in Ukraine or less troops killed in Ukraine with or without US contribution?

I'll further that statement even deeper with the point that, if I'm right and in my heart I know I am, Ukraine is taking massive casualties of; first their military, then their patriotic volunteers, and now working and society contributing draftees.

Ukraine by our own ignorance is losing current and future generations of military men, patriots, and the backbone of their society.
so what was the alternative? allow russia to take kyiv from day one? you make it sound like ukraine is not willing to fight and is just being egged on by the US like some school yard ****... that isnt true. ukraine is begging for these weapons, its their will to fight. NATO has posed no stipulations on the military aid that ukraine has to keep fighting, they can surrender tomorrow if they want to.


the LAST people on earth that want to see ukrainians die is.... other fuking ukrainians, but they also dont want to see their country taken over by foreign invaders.


i dont even understand this logic tbh. by your own logic should the US not have joined ww2? 300,000 american lives could have been saved... why bother fighting?
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
so what was the alternative? allow russia to take kyiv from day one? you make it sound like ukraine is not willing to fight and is just being egged on by the US like some school yard ****... that isnt true. ukraine is begging for these weapons, its their will to fight. NATO has posed no stipulations on the military aid that ukraine has to keep fighting, they can surrender tomorrow if they want to.


the LAST people on earth that want to see ukrainians die is.... other fuking ukrainians, but they also dont want to see their country taken over by foreign invaders.


i dont even understand this logic tbh. by your own logic should the US not have joined ww2? 300,000 american lives could have been saved... why bother fighting?
It's horse****. When San Diego is over 51% hispanic do we just default it to Mexico? No. Total retard logic. Many cities in the US are majority Hispanic and speak Spanish. We don't give the fukkin territory away.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
so what was the alternative? allow russia to take kyiv from day one? you make it sound like ukraine is not willing to fight and is just being egged on by the US like some school yard ****... that isnt true. ukraine is begging for these weapons, its their will to fight. NATO has posed no stipulations on the military aid that ukraine has to keep fighting, they can surrender tomorrow if they want to.


the LAST people on earth that want to see ukrainians die is.... other fuking ukrainians, but they also dont want to see their country taken over by foreign invaders.


i dont even understand this logic tbh. by your own logic should the US not have joined ww2? 300,000 american lives could have been saved... why bother fighting?
No. Give him what he asked for.

The precise thing you were "cool" with before

We weren't going to join WW2 until forced
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Originally Posted By memcop
No. Give him what he asked for.

The precise thing you were "cool" with before

We weren't going to join WW2 until forced
Just watched a documentary last night on comparisons on Pearl Harbour and 9/11 btw. No way the USA was "forced" by Pearl Harbour they knew about it a week in advance at least and had planned months in advance to join the war. They allowed it to happen. it was the perfect excuse.
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Originally Posted By memcop
No. Give him what he asked for.

The precise thing you were "cool" with before
why are you revising what happened? he didnt "ask" for anything... he built up a invading army along ukraines border then attempted to head straight to the capital.

even if we assume he did it to help the donbas separatists, how is that a valid justification? if quebec separatists start having firing skirmishes with the canadian govt tomorrow, does that give france justification to invade canada?

if putin had started all of this by leading a NATO-Kosovo/bosnia type peace keeping mission for the donbas, there wouldnt have been this much pushback... but that isnt what happened, russia invaded ukraine.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Just watched a documentary last night on comparisons on Pearl Harbour and 9/11 btw. No way the USA was "forced" by Pearl Harbour they knew about it a week in advance at least and had planned months in advance to join the war. They allowed it to happen. it was the perfect excuse.
Omfg more worthless BS. ....we knew about Pearl Harbor a week in advance, the Earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, Bush did 9/11...

Never change, Misc.
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Originally Posted By memcop
No. Give him what he asked for.


Would you not seek justice after you've been robbed at gunpoint?
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
Omfg more worthless BS. ....we knew about Pearl Harbor a week in advance, the Earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, Bush did 9/11...

Never change, Misc.
If you can't dispute facts just insult people. Original take.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
If you can't dispute facts just insult people. Original take.
You've presented no facts. You just spewed ignorant conspiracy theories.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Just watched a documentary last night on comparisons on Pearl Harbour and 9/11 btw. No way the USA was "forced" by Pearl Harbour they knew about it a week in advance at least and had planned months in advance to join the war. They allowed it to happen. it was the perfect excuse.
i just watched a documentary last night about how aliens built the egyptian pyramids brah. doesnt mean its true lol.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
i just watched a documentary last night about how aliens built the egyptian pyramids brah. doesnt mean its true lol.
The fact that you watch retarded nonsense doesn't make it false either
Originally Posted By 647584857
Calm down, it's just a special military operation
Well, until it gets upgraded to an anti terrorist operation
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
i just watched a documentary last night about how aliens built the egyptian pyramids brah. doesnt mean its true lol.
Bro aren't you going to dispute the facts he presented that we knew about Pearl Harbor a week in advance and intentionally sacrificed 2400 men as an excuse?
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
why are you revising what happened? he didnt "ask" for anything... he built up a invading army along ukraines border then attempted to head straight to the capital.

even if we assume he did it to help the donbas separatists, how is that a valid justification? if quebec separatists start having firing skirmished with the canadian govt tomorrow, does that give france justification to invade canada?
I'm not revising anything, you just happen to have omitted the diplomacy part ahead of the invasion. Right or wrong Russia had a perspective. Right or wrong Russia has a force that can decimate Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
i just watched a documentary last night about how aliens built the egyptian pyramids brah. doesnt mean its true lol.
Had a doctor at urgent care once tell me that. I needed penicillin for a bicycling cut that got infected and he went off how aliens did all the Egyptian stuff and how penicillin was also from aliens. He said the aliens gave us antibiotics back then but humans wouldn't take them. He was crazy.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
so what was the alternative? allow russia to take kyiv from day one? you make it sound like ukraine is not willing to fight and is just being egged on by the US like some school yard ****... that isnt true. ukraine is begging for these weapons, its their will to fight. NATO has posed no stipulations on the military aid that ukraine has to keep fighting, they can surrender tomorrow if they want to.


the LAST people on earth that want to see ukrainians die is.... other fuking ukrainians, but they also dont want to see their country taken over by foreign invaders.


i dont even understand this logic tbh. by your own logic should the US not have joined ww2? 300,000 american lives could have been saved... why bother fighting?
Russia cannot realistically occupy and hold Kiev. They can just coerce a deal. However, they could destroy Kiev, and that is the fear here.
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Originally Posted By metroins
Had a doctor at urgent care once tell me that. I needed penicillin for a bicycling cut that got infected and he went off how aliens did all the Egyptian stuff and how penicillin was also from aliens. He said the aliens gave us antibiotics back then but humans wouldn't take them. He was crazy.
He's definitely a miscer. Probably a vatnik too.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
i just watched a documentary last night about how aliens built the egyptian pyramids brah. doesnt mean its true lol.
Were several high ranking Egyptian officials on tape being interviewed admitting to it?

Honestly thought the advanced knowledge the USA had of the Pearl Harbour attacks were pretty much accepted knowledge like something like Operation Northwood is. It's ridiculous to claim a Pearl Harbour conspiracy is on the same level of some reptilian or flat earth type chit.
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Originally Posted By Kane_89


Would you not seek justice after you've been robbed at gunpoint?
Of course I would but I'm lucky enough to live in a place that enjoys such recourse.

Otherwise and like most of the world, there is no such recourse.

Maybe this outlook makes some of you look at it this way. I'm truly not mad at you but I cannot stress enough the pure carnage that is happening.
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Originally Posted By Kane_89


Would you not seek justice after you've been robbed at gunpoint?
That's the thing about international relations. There is no higher power. You either have to fight or make peace with each other. It's a bunch of dudes stuck on an island, and some are bigger than others. You try to navigate the system and stay alive. It's a fuking jungle. Not every fight is winnable, and most of the time, injustice is par for the course. You simply have to try to forge alliances and be diplomatic. Provocative behavior, such as hypernationalism will get you killed.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Were several high ranking Egyptian officials on tape being interviewed admitting to it?

Honestly thought the advanced knowledge the USA had of the Pearl Harbour attacks were pretty much accepted knowledge like something like Operation Northwood is. It's ridiculous to claim a Pearl Harbour conspiracy is on the same level of some reptilian or flat earth type chit.
Here are the facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...ong-direction/
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
Bro aren't you going to dispute the facts he presented that we knew about Pearl Harbor a week in advance and intentionally sacrificed 2400 men as an excuse?
i mean, does such a statement even need to be disputed? im not going to get into arguments about those kinds of theories... waste of time.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Were several high ranking Egyptian officials on tape being interviewed admitting to it?

Honestly thought the advanced knowledge the USA had of the Pearl Harbour attacks were pretty much accepted knowledge like something like Operation Northwood is. It's ridiculous to claim a Pearl Harbour conspiracy is on the same level of some reptilian or flat earth type chit.
Brah. We could have still gone to war without loosing most of our fleet parked in the harbor or killing our Sailors who are still stuck in the bay.

It was not known and quite disrespectful
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Originally Posted By memcop
Of course I would but I'm lucky enough to live in a place that enjoys such recourse.

Otherwise and like most of the world, there is no such recourse.

Maybe this outlook makes some of you look at it this way. I'm truly not mad at you but I cannot stress enough the pure carnage that is happening.
They do not understand the absence of law and the chaos of war. They still believe there is some law and order in the world. We are so militarized that we have institutionalized war and created a romantic fiction of what it is.
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Regarding Pearl Harbor, it is known FDR had advanced knowledge. He wanted us to commit to the war. This is what I told you guys about the price of leadership. There were also cases during the war of British intel not warning of attacks because they didn't want Germans to know they were onto them.
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Originally Posted By metroins
Had a doctor at urgent care once tell me that. I needed penicillin for a bicycling cut that got infected and he went off how aliens did all the Egyptian stuff and how penicillin was also from aliens. He said the aliens gave us antibiotics back then but humans wouldn't take them. He was crazy.
You still let him stick you with a needle?
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
Regarding Pearl Harbor, it is known FDR had advanced knowledge. He wanted us to commit to the war. This is what I told you guys about the price of leadership.
Shut up red
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