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02-04-2017, 06:41 AM
#1921
Originally Posted By OGMH23⏩
I think it's definitely overrated. People act like Lynch is some nobody. He's a HOF level former safety which is a very cerebral position on the defense and was converted from a QB which we know is the most cerebral position on the field. The dude went to Stanford. He's definitely very intelligent and he knows the game and what it takes to field good teams and mold good players.
Well said - Jed's statements hold no weight.
It seems that the shock of hiring Lynch has masked the fact that nearly every candidate voluntarily withdrew themselves. Were they not given assurances of zero football meddling? Or did they simply not trust Jed?
On a different (and positive) note, Kyle Turley was on a radio show and said it was a great hire and Lynch is a respected from a players standpoint. He believed front office experience was overrated, as he knew a guy in the New Orleans mailroom that ended up becoming a GM in Chicago.
It seems that the shock of hiring Lynch has masked the fact that nearly every candidate voluntarily withdrew themselves. Were they not given assurances of zero football meddling? Or did they simply not trust Jed?
On a different (and positive) note, Kyle Turley was on a radio show and said it was a great hire and Lynch is a respected from a players standpoint. He believed front office experience was overrated, as he knew a guy in the New Orleans mailroom that ended up becoming a GM in Chicago.
On top of that getting Peters from Denver was a HUGE move. No GM scouts every player on his own and getting a guy like Peters who has been around two highly successful and SB winning teams and someone who is a very highly respected scout to back up Lynch is awesome.
Matt Millen had all the power with Detroit. Here Shanahan holds the most power but it will definitely be a much more collaborative effort and when your GM and HC are on the same page it's much easier to do the GM job.
My only concern is this QB class and how strong it will be next year. I'd rather we draft someone like Peterman out of Pitt in the 3rd round and then grab one of the guys next year vs taking Trubisky, Watson or Kizer at #2.
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02-04-2017, 07:18 AM
#1922
^. The more I read about lynch the more I like him. Then we add in the guy from Denver. Seems like it should be pretty good. Time will tell.
Biggest issue is no qb and we are missing way to many pieces. Hopefully they are able address some of that this year in far and draft. I am very curious to see if they try to wheel and deal to get cousins or anyone else. After l right we have a **** ton of money sitting around and we haven't even let any other players go yet.
Biggest issue is no qb and we are missing way to many pieces. Hopefully they are able address some of that this year in far and draft. I am very curious to see if they try to wheel and deal to get cousins or anyone else. After l right we have a **** ton of money sitting around and we haven't even let any other players go yet.
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02-04-2017, 03:09 PM
#1923
No doubting Lynch's football acumen or general intelligence, plus he has alot of friends in the media so he will escape criticism from former players turned analysts or people in the booth etc atleast until it becomes all too obvious that this regime is somehow worse than the one that's gone from 3 NFC Championship games to 2-14 in 2 seasons.
If we are to learn from our recent history, the years where Mooch and Mcnolan struggled, we were hamstrung by zero pass rush. Guys like Andre Carter and later Aldon Smith seemed to be the key in turning our defense around. If Garrett doesn't fall, are there any other rush linebackers available? Basically, what i'm trying to say is stack the defense, build around Buckner.
Also, i'd rather we trade our 4th or 5th (or even 4th plus conditional) to bring in Jay Cutler, than reach for some QB in the first three rounds. There's a huge chance we will still be picking in the top 5 next season, so all the PAC 12 QB's are still in play.
If we are to learn from our recent history, the years where Mooch and Mcnolan struggled, we were hamstrung by zero pass rush. Guys like Andre Carter and later Aldon Smith seemed to be the key in turning our defense around. If Garrett doesn't fall, are there any other rush linebackers available? Basically, what i'm trying to say is stack the defense, build around Buckner.
Also, i'd rather we trade our 4th or 5th (or even 4th plus conditional) to bring in Jay Cutler, than reach for some QB in the first three rounds. There's a huge chance we will still be picking in the top 5 next season, so all the PAC 12 QB's are still in play.
02-04-2017, 03:26 PM
#1924
Originally Posted By OGMH23⏩
Yes but nobody worth taking at #2. This draft has some very good pass rushers. My prefred move if Garrett goes #1 is to trade down a few picks(obviously have to have a partner to do so) and draft Solomon Thomas but I'm not sure if he can play 3-4 OLB…but he's a beast and can certainly rush the passer.
No doubting Lynch's football acumen or general intelligence, plus he has alot of friends in the media so he will escape criticism from former players turned analysts or people in the booth etc atleast until it becomes all too obvious that this regime is somehow worse than the one that's gone from 3 NFC Championship games to 2-14 in 2 seasons.
If we are to learn from our recent history, the years where Mooch and Mcnolan struggled, we were hamstrung by zero pass rush. Guys like Andre Carter and later Aldon Smith seemed to be the key in turning our defense around. If Garrett doesn't fall, are there any other rush linebackers available? Basically, what i'm trying to say is stack the defense, build around Buckner.
Also, i'd rather we trade our 4th or 5th (or even 4th plus conditional) to bring in Jay Cutler, than reach for some QB in the first three rounds. There's a huge chance we will still be picking in the top 5 next season, so all the PAC 12 QB's are still in play.
If we are to learn from our recent history, the years where Mooch and Mcnolan struggled, we were hamstrung by zero pass rush. Guys like Andre Carter and later Aldon Smith seemed to be the key in turning our defense around. If Garrett doesn't fall, are there any other rush linebackers available? Basically, what i'm trying to say is stack the defense, build around Buckner.
Also, i'd rather we trade our 4th or 5th (or even 4th plus conditional) to bring in Jay Cutler, than reach for some QB in the first three rounds. There's a huge chance we will still be picking in the top 5 next season, so all the PAC 12 QB's are still in play.
I like Takk McKinley in teh 2nd round if we can get him if we don't go with the position in the first. Jonathan Allen is also a very highly rated player but not a scheme fit. Well he'd fit at 3-4 DE but do we dare draft 3 in a row in the first round?
Later on you also have the Alabama guys other than Allen - Tim Williams and Ryan Anderson, Carol Phillips, Devonte Fields(doubt we take him due to off the field issues)
I also really like Haason Reddick and TJ Watt, i think they can play OLB or ILB for us which would be a great get in the 2nd round.
Charles Harris and Carl Lawson are mid-low 1st round type guys as well. And a bunch of other guys who could surprise or get coached up.
Definitely the strength of this draft.
As for Cutler Bears will cut him. No reason to trade for him.
02-05-2017, 11:13 AM
#1925
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02-05-2017, 11:18 AM
#1926
Originally Posted By jwtiger69⏩
Meh…a vet who knows Kyle's system. Allows us to ease a young QB into the offense and would come cheap…another coach in essence. I'm cool with it. Rather Schaub than Cutlet.
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02-05-2017, 11:40 AM
#1927
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Meh…a vet who knows Kyle's system. Allows us to ease a young QB into the offense and would come cheap…another coach in essence. I'm cool with it. Rather Schaub than Cutlet.
I guess t could be worse… lol. Then again we really don't have a lot of options right now. He also should be really cheap
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02-05-2017, 03:45 PM
#1928
Fuk no on Schaub
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02-06-2017, 08:14 AM
#1929
Not surprise by yesterdays game. My buddies and I were joking that the Pats would make a come back. I really could have cared who won. Part of me would have liked to see Kyle come to us with a ring.
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02-06-2017, 08:16 AM
#1930
I was watching with the wife and father in law. I thought for sure they were done. Still can't believe they pulled that out. Tom Brady is something else.
I do hope Kyle Shanahan learned a big lesson from this game.
I do hope Kyle Shanahan learned a big lesson from this game.
02-06-2017, 08:22 AM
#1931
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
My biggest thoughts too… He should have ran the ball more. They were getting an easy 5 yards a carry or something close to that. When they had the ball in the first half they did well utilizing run/pass. Second half they went away from that (from what I remember). I think he tried to be too aggressive and it cost them. Either way I am happy to see what he brings to the niners. Smart guy and for the most part called a decent game.
I was watching with the wife and father in law. I thought for sure they were done. Still can't believe they pulled that out. Tom Brady is something else.
I do hope Kyle Shanahan learned a big lesson from this game .
I do hope Kyle Shanahan learned a big lesson from this game .
If also doesn't help when your defense takes a huge crap like they did. Brady is legit and they had a play a great game to keep them out. But they didn't and Brady found a way to win.
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02-06-2017, 10:49 AM
#1932
Unfortunately Kyle has to share a large portion of the blame. His play calling on that second last drive was diabolical, and even after the huge gain, they were snapping the ball with over 20 seconds on the play clock.
As for Schaub vs Cutler, that's not even a debate. Schaub has started 10 games in the last 3 seasons and has a TD:Int of 13:20. Unless York has replaced his motto from "Winning with class" to "Losing with minimum salary vets" then it's a no from me.
As for Schaub vs Cutler, that's not even a debate. Schaub has started 10 games in the last 3 seasons and has a TD:Int of 13:20. Unless York has replaced his motto from "Winning with class" to "Losing with minimum salary vets" then it's a no from me.
02-06-2017, 10:54 AM
#1933
Originally Posted By OGMH23⏩
Not sure who's to blame for snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock. I would think coordinator doesn't dictate that.
Unfortunately Kyle has to share a large portion of the blame. His play calling on that second last drive was diabolical, and even after the huge gain, they were snapping the ball with over 20 seconds on the play clock.
As for Schaub vs Cutler, that's not even a debate. Schaub has started 10 games in the last 3 seasons and has a TD:Int of 13:20. Unless York has replaced his motto from "Winning with class" to "Losing with minimum salary vets" then it's a no from me.
As for Schaub vs Cutler, that's not even a debate. Schaub has started 10 games in the last 3 seasons and has a TD:Int of 13:20. Unless York has replaced his motto from "Winning with class" to "Losing with minimum salary vets" then it's a no from me.
in regards to Schaub vs Cutler there's another side of that. I think(and hope) that we can all agree neither of those guys is our long term QB so it's who can better teach a young QB or help the lockeroom. I'd lean towards Schaub on that one. He would cost less, knows Shanahan's offense.
I don't see Cutler being a great mentor to a young QB and he would be one of the last guys I'd pick to help a rookie/young player. Schaub is a smart guy, just doesn't have the physical tools.
02-06-2017, 05:23 PM
#1934
Well it's official Shanahan is our new HC.
02-06-2017, 05:36 PM
#1935
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
YES! i am excite
Well it's official Shanahan is our new HC.
also, ppl love to second guess the play calling. The way I see it in this case, the Falcons have been aggressive on offense all year, why change now? its what got them there. still on the players to execute. the better team won, no shame in losing to the GOAT QB and GOAT Coach.
I'm optimistic that we finally have a guy that will put our players in situations to utilize their strengths.
Very much looking forward to the draft and hope Garrett is there at #2.
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02-06-2017, 06:56 PM
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Not going to to put it all on Kyle on that drive. Sure they could have run the ball more killed some clock and kicked a FG but like nara said, that's not really who they are. NE had 3 timeouts plus the 2min warning with with over 3:30 left. There was no guarantee Falcons would stop NE from scoring 11 with that much time left with the way Brady was playing. They tried to go for the kill.
You also can't blame the sack on Kyle nor can you blame him for the hold that got them out of FG range. And is it me or was there a face-mask on that play that could have negated the hold?
Anyways, I'm glad we have KS. The bigger issue now is building a team with so many holes. KS and Lynch have their work cut out.
You also can't blame the sack on Kyle nor can you blame him for the hold that got them out of FG range. And is it me or was there a face-mask on that play that could have negated the hold?
Anyways, I'm glad we have KS. The bigger issue now is building a team with so many holes. KS and Lynch have their work cut out.
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02-06-2017, 07:21 PM
#1937
Originally Posted By EvilChicken⏩
You said it. I'm still nervous about Shanahan but after McDaniels he was my #2 guy so hard to complain and I do like what I've heard about his QB evaluations. He had Derek Carr as the best QB in their class with Garoppolo being #2.
Not going to to put it all on Kyle on that drive. Sure they could have run the ball more killed some clock and kicked a FG but like nara said, that's not really who they are. NE had 3 timeouts plus the 2min warning with with over 3:30 left. There was no guarantee Falcons would stop NE from scoring 11 with that much time left with the way Brady was playing. They tried to go for the kill.
You also can't blame the sack on Kyle nor can you blame him for the hold that got them out of FG range. And is it me or was there a face-mask on that play that could have negated the hold?
Anyways, I'm glad we have KS. The bigger issue now is building a team with so many holes. KS and Lynch have their work cut out .
You also can't blame the sack on Kyle nor can you blame him for the hold that got them out of FG range. And is it me or was there a face-mask on that play that could have negated the hold?
Anyways, I'm glad we have KS. The bigger issue now is building a team with so many holes. KS and Lynch have their work cut out .
No question the man knows offense. Hopefully he does a good job of building a good staff around him and has a good relationship with coaches and players so they give him their all.
The QB search is key. I'm nervous about this class, next years looks way better but Shanahan is the right guy to make the call if these guys are worth taking #2.
Can't wait to see them at the combine drills. I think the passing drills will be huge for Trubisky and Watson. If I could combine both guys into a single prospect and put them into Kizer's body that would be awesome..then again Cleveland would draft them then lol.
I like Trubisky overall. LOVE Watson's intangibles. I think those are super important and cannot be taught or underestimated but Kyle and John need to ensure they know whether he's closer to Brady or Tebow. Combine drills and interviews should definitely help.
Also very curious how we approach free agency. Will we spend big time? Spend big on one or two guys? Or go super frugal?
Not expecting anything next year but would like to see the team grow together and see development in the young guys.
02-06-2017, 07:41 PM
#1938
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I rather they give up the #2 for Garopolo than take any of these that early. I think they have no choice but to spend, the question is will the just go for big names or guys that will fit into what Shanahan wants to team to look like. We're all hoping Lynch has good people around him so they can work well together.
You said it. I'm still nervous about Shanahan but after McDaniels he was my #2 guy so hard to complain and I do like what I've heard about his QB evaluations. He had Derek Carr as the best QB in their class with Garoppolo being #2.
No question the man knows offense. Hopefully he does a good job of building a good staff around him and has a good relationship with coaches and players so they give him their all.
The QB search is key. I'm nervous about this class, next years looks way better but Shanahan is the right guy to make the call if these guys are worth taking #2.
Can't wait to see them at the combine drills. I think the passing drills will be huge for Trubisky and Watson. If I could combine both guys into a single prospect and put them into Kizer's body that would be awesome..then again Cleveland would draft them then lol.
I like Trubisky overall. LOVE Watson's intangibles. I think those are super important and cannot be taught or underestimated but Kyle and John need to ensure they know whether he's closer to Brady or Tebow. Combine drills and interviews should definitely help.
Also very curious how we approach free agency. Will we spend big time? Spend big on one or two guys? Or go super frugal?
Not expecting anything next year but would like to see the team grow together and see development in the young guys.
No question the man knows offense. Hopefully he does a good job of building a good staff around him and has a good relationship with coaches and players so they give him their all.
The QB search is key. I'm nervous about this class, next years looks way better but Shanahan is the right guy to make the call if these guys are worth taking #2.
Can't wait to see them at the combine drills. I think the passing drills will be huge for Trubisky and Watson. If I could combine both guys into a single prospect and put them into Kizer's body that would be awesome..then again Cleveland would draft them then lol.
I like Trubisky overall. LOVE Watson's intangibles. I think those are super important and cannot be taught or underestimated but Kyle and John need to ensure they know whether he's closer to Brady or Tebow. Combine drills and interviews should definitely help.
Also very curious how we approach free agency. Will we spend big time? Spend big on one or two guys? Or go super frugal?
Not expecting anything next year but would like to see the team grow together and see development in the young guys.
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02-06-2017, 07:44 PM
#1939
Originally Posted By EvilChicken⏩
I can't see us giving up #2 for Garoppolo and giving him a mega QB contract with 1.5 games of NFL tape, especially because he'd have to learn a new system.
I rather they give up the #2 for Garopolo than take any of these that early. I think they have no choice but to spend, the question is will the just go for big names or guys that will fit into what Shanahan wants to team to look like. We're all hoping Lynch has good people around him so they can work well together.
At most I'd give up #2 for Jimmy and #32.
02-06-2017, 08:41 PM
#1940
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
i'm not sold on Garoppolo. I'd be happy with a vet stop gap and a guy groomed for the next 2-3 years. I think Watson could be good given a yr or two of coaching.
I can't see us giving up #2 for Garoppolo and giving him a mega QB contract with 1.5 games of NFL tape, especially because he'd have to learn a new system.
At most I'd give up #2 for Jimmy and #32.
At most I'd give up #2 for Jimmy and #32.
I also don't see us making a big splash in FA anytime soon. The general idea would be to build through the draft and roll over cap for the next year or two, then make a big splash to make a big push once we're more competitive.
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02-06-2017, 10:14 PM
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Personally I prefer a stud defensive player with that #2. If they were to draft a college QB with it i'd rather they trade for Garoppolo, this QB class doesn't is very mehhh.
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02-07-2017, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
damn man i have argued this one with u for AGES hahahahah
I can't see us giving up #2 for Garoppolo and giving him a mega QB contract with 1.5 games of NFL tape, especially because he'd have to learn a new system.
At most I'd give up #2 for Jimmy and #32.
At most I'd give up #2 for Jimmy and #32.
U DON'T HAVE TOO… if u pick a 1st round subpar QB then u are in rebuilding mode for the next 2-3 years (hoping for the best) but if u take jimmy WITH ONE year left then u could let the guy walk away and then pick somebody else next year if he doesn't play out they way u think he should. YES u lose one pick and prob one year but at this point the 49 are 1-3 years before they are a playoff team.
Another option is to trade down the second for a late first round pick + something else and then trade the pick for Jimmy.
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02-07-2017, 05:27 AM
#1943
Originally Posted By EvilChicken⏩
for what? so u can go 2-14 or 4-12??? then u need to start from scratch next year again?
Personally I prefer a stud defensive player with that #2. If they were to draft a college QB with it i'd rather they trade for Garoppolo, this QB class doesn't is very mehhh.
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02-07-2017, 05:38 AM
#1944
Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
The thing is the 49ers fanbase understands this is a rebuilding process for us and there will be a lot of new bodies coming in and probably 3 new QBs on the active roster this year.
damn man i have argued this one with u for AGES hahahahah
U DON'T HAVE TOO… if u pick a 1st round subpar QB then u are in rebuilding mode for the next 2-3 years (hoping for the best) but if u take jimmy WITH ONE year left then u could let the guy walk away and then pick somebody else next year if he doesn't play out they way u think he should. YES u lose one pick and prob one year but at this point the 49 are 1-3 years before they are a playoff team.
Another option is to trade down the second for a late first round pick + something else and then trade the pick for Jimmy.
U DON'T HAVE TOO… if u pick a 1st round subpar QB then u are in rebuilding mode for the next 2-3 years (hoping for the best) but if u take jimmy WITH ONE year left then u could let the guy walk away and then pick somebody else next year if he doesn't play out they way u think he should. YES u lose one pick and prob one year but at this point the 49 are 1-3 years before they are a playoff team.
Another option is to trade down the second for a late first round pick + something else and then trade the pick for Jimmy.
Picking a subpar QB with a top 10 pick is not as damaging as it was before the new CBA. You can let these guys walk and while it sucks it doesn't set your franchise back 5-7 years due to the crazy contract.
Trading #2 for Jimmy you're not letting him become a free agent. You trade a top 2 pick for a kid and you make sure you extend him. You trade day 3 picks for 1 year rentals. Not top 3 picks.
You'll take our 2nd rounder and a conditional next year and like it
Obviously I think Shanahan who is a pretty good QB evaluator from the sound of it, Lynch and the front office guys will go over the top guys in this class with a fine toothed comb and if they realize Garoppolo is that much better then maybe they put a crazy offer out there for him.
But at the end of the day Jimmy has 1.5 NFL starts in a QB friendly system. #2 overall has a chit ton of draft value and then you're also adding the contract. A lot to give up for still an unknown. Rookie are even more an unknown but you're not giving them a huge guaranteed contract and you can coach them up your way and control them for a decent salary for up to 5 years.
02-07-2017, 05:50 AM
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"The 1st Round of the 2016 NFL draft is in the books and we can now begin to project the salaries for this year’s class of rookies. The nights biggest winner was, of course, #1 overall pick Jared Goff who will earn approximately $27,946,656 over his rookie contract with the Los Angeles Rams"
I still think that 27 or million dollars for unproven rookies is crazy money; I will be ok if we were talking about bigB, Peyton, Luck, etc but that kind of money for a 3 cents QB… thx but no thx.
I think KS is going to address the QB position as soon as he can so let see what he is going to do.
I still think that 27 or million dollars for unproven rookies is crazy money; I will be ok if we were talking about bigB, Peyton, Luck, etc but that kind of money for a 3 cents QB… thx but no thx.
I think KS is going to address the QB position as soon as he can so let see what he is going to do.
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02-07-2017, 06:04 AM
#1946
Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
We'll see. Honestly if that's the move I'm good with it. I think very highly of Jimmy and think he'd be an excellent fit but personally I think because he's coming with that extension it's too much, which is why if I'm doing that deal I'm asking for 1st round swap to balance it out. But technically that's still a giant loss of trade value.
"The 1st Round of the 2016 NFL draft is in the books and we can now begin to project the salaries for this year’s class of rookies. The nights biggest winner was, of course, #1 overall pick Jared Goff who will earn approximately $27,946,656 over his rookie contract with the Los Angeles Rams"
I still think that 27 or million dollars for unproven rookies is crazy money; I will be ok if we were talking about bigB, Peyton, Luck, etc but that kind of money for a 3 cents QB… thx but no thx.
I think KS is going to address the QB position as soon as he can so let see what he is going to do.
I still think that 27 or million dollars for unproven rookies is crazy money; I will be ok if we were talking about bigB, Peyton, Luck, etc but that kind of money for a 3 cents QB… thx but no thx.
I think KS is going to address the QB position as soon as he can so let see what he is going to do.
Using the chart as a ball park #2 is worth 2600 #32 is worth 590. Loss of 2000 points. That's like 2 #16 overall picks.
02-07-2017, 09:56 AM
#1947
Regardless Shannahan and Lynch have a tough decision to make regarding QB and I'm sure its going to be Kyle making the decision more then Lynch. Honestly I'd be happy either way (trade for Jimmy G or draft Mitch #2) as long as Kap isn't our QB.
Who would you guys take at #2 if Garrett went #1 and we traded for Jimmy G? No trading back either, who is your #2 guy on the board for the 49ers?
Who would you guys take at #2 if Garrett went #1 and we traded for Jimmy G? No trading back either, who is your #2 guy on the board for the 49ers?
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02-07-2017, 11:44 AM
#1948
Tough question.
I think trade down is our best choice but if I have to go with someone at this point it would be Solomon Thomas.
I love the way that kid plays. It's tough to see where he would fit, he's a bit too big to play OLB and we're set at DE but he's just one of those guys who makes plays so you find a fit for him.
I think trade down is our best choice but if I have to go with someone at this point it would be Solomon Thomas.
I love the way that kid plays. It's tough to see where he would fit, he's a bit too big to play OLB and we're set at DE but he's just one of those guys who makes plays so you find a fit for him.
02-07-2017, 03:06 PM
#1949
Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
imo, BPA would be Jonathan Allen, but I think he'd be a better fit at DE for us, and we've already got Armstead and Buckner. If he could play NT it'd be a no brainer…having those 3 guys on the D-line would be awesome.
Regardless Shannahan and Lynch have a tough decision to make regarding QB and I'm sure its going to be Kyle making the decision more then Lynch. Honestly I'd be happy either way (trade for Jimmy G or draft Mitch #2) as long as Kap isn't our QB.
Who would you guys take at #2 if Garrett went #1 and we traded for Jimmy G? No trading back either, who is your #2 guy on the board for the 49ers?
Who would you guys take at #2 if Garrett went #1 and we traded for Jimmy G? No trading back either, who is your #2 guy on the board for the 49ers?
Eh, yenno what, i'd still draft Allen, dood is a beast and if i'm the DC i'd find a way to make it work. lol
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02-08-2017, 02:15 AM
#1950
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Kyle's in Ryans ear every single play, most teams dont even break the huddle before 20 seconds to manage the clock, so there's a big chance Shanahan was pushing for uptempo aggressive plays. Considering he's been reportedly given full responsibility to run the offense with Quinn running the defense, you can't say he doesn't dictate this.
Not sure who's to blame for snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock. I would think coordinator doesn't dictate that.
in regards to Schaub vs Cutler there's another side of that. I think(and hope) that we can all agree neither of those guys is our long term QB so it's who can better teach a young QB or help the lockeroom. I'd lean towards Schaub on that one. He would cost less, knows Shanahan's offense.
I don't see Cutler being a great mentor to a young QB and he would be one of the last guys I'd pick to help a rookie/young player. Schaub is a smart guy, just doesn't have the physical tools.
in regards to Schaub vs Cutler there's another side of that. I think(and hope) that we can all agree neither of those guys is our long term QB so it's who can better teach a young QB or help the lockeroom. I'd lean towards Schaub on that one. He would cost less, knows Shanahan's offense.
I don't see Cutler being a great mentor to a young QB and he would be one of the last guys I'd pick to help a rookie/young player. Schaub is a smart guy, just doesn't have the physical tools.
If we're bringing in a veteran QB to be a starter, it has to be Cutler. Production, that's not even close, Schaub's numbers over the last 3 seasons are so bad, does he have anything left? No QB can help the locker room if they stink on the field. Just have a listen of Champ Bailey, Lynch or Urlacher comments from when they played with him, yes he's a cocky dude but they all had good relationships with him. I'd hate to think the 49ers, with a zillion dollars in cap room, are going to decide a QB based on cap hits (although wouldnt surprise me).
I haven't factored in mentoring QB's as neither have a track record in this area, and like I said I don't think we should touch a QB in the first three rounds.
As for the scenario of not trading back - Very tough but it couldn't hurt to stack the defensive line and go Allen. Do we even know what we have with Armstead?
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