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01-13-2023, 03:30 PM
#1921
Meh. Think those millions of ppl are going to register. Doubt it.
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Rules aren’t laws
There isn’t enough jail cells lol
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01-13-2023, 03:30 PM
#1922
Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
IDK. Personal choice.
10 years in prison and loss of guns rights for life.
What's the move for current brace owners? Destroy brace and keep gun as a pistol? If you form 1 SBR and this gets overturned, you can't convert back to a unregisterd pistol and enjoy the benefits over an SBR. I'm thinking wait a couple months and see where it's going.
What's the move for current brace owners? Destroy brace and keep gun as a pistol? If you form 1 SBR and this gets overturned, you can't convert back to a unregisterd pistol and enjoy the benefits over an SBR. I'm thinking wait a couple months and see where it's going.
As I've said I sold all my braced pistols quite awhile go so I could sit this one out
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01-13-2023, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
I've thought about buying a pistol several times in the past but never did. If I had bought one, I'd probably take a wait and see approach. Courts take too long to totally strike it down in the 120 days, but enforcement could certainly be delayed. If the deadline was approaching and I still didn't want to commit to SBR, I would think you could take it apart to remain legal. Perhaps taking the stock off would do it. The you could say you plan to get a brace. Certainly, screwing off the barrel should keep you legal indefinitely, that's just a little more work.
10 years in prison and loss of guns rights for life.
What's the move for current brace owners? Destroy brace and keep gun as a pistol? If you form 1 SBR and this gets overturned, you can't convert back to a unregisterd pistol and enjoy the benefits over an SBR. I'm thinking wait a couple months and see where it's going.
What's the move for current brace owners? Destroy brace and keep gun as a pistol? If you form 1 SBR and this gets overturned, you can't convert back to a unregisterd pistol and enjoy the benefits over an SBR. I'm thinking wait a couple months and see where it's going.
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01-13-2023, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By FarmersSon⏩
No need to guess
I've thought about buying a pistol several times in the past but never did. If I had bought one, I'd probably take a wait and see approach. Courts take too long to totally strike it down in the 120 days, but enforcement could certainly be delayed. If the deadline was approaching and I still didn't want to commit to SBR, I would think you could take it apart to remain legal. Perhaps taking the stock off would do it. The you could say you plan to get a brace. Certainly, screwing off the barrel should keep you legal indefinitely, that's just a little more work.
"This rule is effective the date it is published in the Federal Register. Any weapons with “stabilizing braces” or similar attachments that constitute rifles under the NFA must be registered no later than 120 days after date of publication in the Federal Register; or the short barrel removed and a 16-inch or longer rifle barrel attached to the firearm; or permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached ; or the firearm is turned in to your local ATF office. Or the firearm is destroyed."
I'm no lawyer but taking it off would not seem to count.
Literally the brace itself seems to be turned into an NFA item
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01-13-2023, 03:50 PM
#1925
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
yeah, leaning towards destroy brace unless you really want an sbr. Can replace brace for $100 later.
IDK. Personal choice.
As I've said I sold all my braced pistols quite awhile go so I could sit this one out
As I've said I sold all my braced pistols quite awhile go so I could sit this one out
Think I mentioned a friend had a bumpstock this whole time (I didnt know until right before overturn). Pretty dumb, because bumpstocks are dumb and it was a big risk for something he couldn't use and just stashed in the attic. Kinda how I feel about if someone was to not destroy and not form 1.
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01-13-2023, 03:52 PM
#1926
In addition to the obvious fact that this is grossly unconstitutional, the next big problem of course is
so many
owners of these things are going to have no ****ing clue.
A ton of non-enthusiasts who don't keep up on things who don't work in the industry who don't subscribe to this and that who just bought whatever was on the gun store shelf risk getting fukked.
Which is what the .gov wants. Make everybody scared to buy any gun because they could just end up being a federal felon
A ton of non-enthusiasts who don't keep up on things who don't work in the industry who don't subscribe to this and that who just bought whatever was on the gun store shelf risk getting fukked.
Which is what the .gov wants. Make everybody scared to buy any gun because they could just end up being a federal felon
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01-13-2023, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Exactly this. Millions are not even going to be following this “rule” or know about it to do anything.
In addition to the obvious fact that this is grossly unconstitutional, the next big problem of course is
so many
owners of these things are going to have no ****ing clue.
A ton of non-enthusiasts who don't keep up on things who don't work in the industry who don't subscribe to this and that who just bought whatever was on the gun store shelf risk getting fukked.
Which is what the .gov wants. Make everybody scared to buy any gun because they could just end up being a federal felon
A ton of non-enthusiasts who don't keep up on things who don't work in the industry who don't subscribe to this and that who just bought whatever was on the gun store shelf risk getting fukked.
Which is what the .gov wants. Make everybody scared to buy any gun because they could just end up being a federal felon
What’s the Gov going to do send someone to every house that owns a gun and ask to see it?
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01-13-2023, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Interesting. I've seen a lot of advice to either store the barrel in a separate place from the rest of the gun or wait to buy it until you have the tax stamp in hand for people that build SBRs. This seems like an extension of that philosophy. What a mess. They don't have a problem with short barrels, as long as it's on a gun with a legitimate brace that can't be shouldered, and they don't have a problem with shoulderable braces as long as it's on a gun with a 16-in barrel. To me, it appears the intent is just to not have a short barrel and shoulderable brace in the same place at the same time (unless it's been NFA registered).
No need to guess
"This rule is effective the date it is published in the Federal Register. Any weapons with “stabilizing braces” or similar attachments that constitute rifles under the NFA must be registered no later than 120 days after date of publication in the Federal Register; or the short barrel removed and a 16-inch or longer rifle barrel attached to the firearm; or permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached ; or the firearm is turned in to your local ATF office. Or the firearm is destroyed."
I'm no lawyer but taking it off would not seem to count.
Literally the brace itself seems to be turned into an NFA item
"This rule is effective the date it is published in the Federal Register. Any weapons with “stabilizing braces” or similar attachments that constitute rifles under the NFA must be registered no later than 120 days after date of publication in the Federal Register; or the short barrel removed and a 16-inch or longer rifle barrel attached to the firearm; or permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached ; or the firearm is turned in to your local ATF office. Or the firearm is destroyed."
I'm no lawyer but taking it off would not seem to count.
Literally the brace itself seems to be turned into an NFA item
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01-13-2023, 04:10 PM
#1929
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
God you guys are fuking stupid srs
Exactly this. Millions are not even going to be following this “rule” or know about it to do anything.
What’s the Gov going to do send someone to every house that owns a gun and ask to see it?
What’s the Gov going to do send someone to every house that owns a gun and ask to see it?
No, they aren't going to do that.
I just said for the millionth fuking time what the point is.
If you keep it, you will be a federal felon. You won't take it to the range, you won't use it for HD, you won't use it for SD, you don't do jack sht with it because you'll risk a federal felony even if everything else was perfect
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it will make everybody scared to buy any gun at any store because they are afraid they'll accidentally become felons so they just won't buy guns.
If you think not going door to door means it's not a big deal you're the problem
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01-13-2023, 04:11 PM
#1930
Originally Posted By FarmersSon⏩
A lot of people give terrible, illegal advice. Trust me, I know lol
Interesting. I've seen a lot of advice to either store the barrel in a separate place from the rest of the gun or wait to buy it until you have the tax stamp in hand for people that build SBRs. This seems like an extension of that philosophy. What a mess. They don't have a problem with short barrels, as long as it's on a gun with a legitimate brace that can't be shouldered, and they don't have a problem with shoulderable braces as long as it's on a gun with a 16-in barrel. To me, it appears the intent is just to not have a short barrel and shoulderable brace in the same place at the same time (unless it's been NFA registered).
Yes that is the intent. That meaning virtually every braced pistol ever sold or built
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01-13-2023, 04:17 PM
#1931
Gov don’t care about illegals/felons coming in by the thousands so let’s just create millions out of us citizens out of thin air.
Just lol at this mess/bs.
Just lol at this mess/bs.
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01-13-2023, 04:18 PM
#1932
Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
I won’t destroy my braces and I also will not register.
yeah, leaning towards destroy brace unless you really want an sbr. Can replace brace for $100 later.
Think I mentioned a friend had a bumpstock this whole time (I didnt know until right before overturn). Pretty dumb, because bumpstocks are dumb and it was a big risk for something he couldn't use and just stashed in the attic. Kinda how I feel about if someone was to not destroy and not form 1.
Think I mentioned a friend had a bumpstock this whole time (I didnt know until right before overturn). Pretty dumb, because bumpstocks are dumb and it was a big risk for something he couldn't use and just stashed in the attic. Kinda how I feel about if someone was to not destroy and not form 1.
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01-13-2023, 04:20 PM
#1933
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
User name checks out
I won’t destroy my braces and I also will not register.
01-13-2023, 04:20 PM
#1934
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yes cause no one has private ranges available to use firearms with no supervision.
God you guys are fuking stupid srs
No, they aren't going to do that.
I just said for the millionth fuking time what the point is.
If you keep it, you will be a federal felon. You won't take it to the range, you won't use it for HD, you won't use it for SD, you don't do jack sht with it because you'll risk a federal felony even if everything else was perfect
and
it will make everybody scared to buy any gun at any store because they are afraid they'll accidentally become felons so they just won't buy guns.
If you think not going door to door means it's not a big deal you're the problem
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No, they aren't going to do that.
I just said for the millionth fuking time what the point is.
If you keep it, you will be a federal felon. You won't take it to the range, you won't use it for HD, you won't use it for SD, you don't do jack sht with it because you'll risk a federal felony even if everything else was perfect
and
it will make everybody scared to buy any gun at any store because they are afraid they'll accidentally become felons so they just won't buy guns.
If you think not going door to door means it's not a big deal you're the problem
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01-13-2023, 04:21 PM
#1935
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
That was a rhetorical question to your post. Of course they aren’t going to come to the door to millions.
God you guys are fuking stupid srs
No, they aren't going to do that.
I just said for the millionth fuking time what the point is.
If you keep it, you will be a federal felon. You won't take it to the range, you won't use it for HD, you won't use it for SD, you don't do jack sht with it because you'll risk a federal felony even if everything else was perfect
and
it will make everybody scared to buy any gun at any store because they are afraid they'll accidentally become felons so they just won't buy guns.
If you think not going door to door means it's not a big deal you're the problem
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No, they aren't going to do that.
I just said for the millionth fuking time what the point is.
If you keep it, you will be a federal felon. You won't take it to the range, you won't use it for HD, you won't use it for SD, you don't do jack sht with it because you'll risk a federal felony even if everything else was perfect
and
it will make everybody scared to buy any gun at any store because they are afraid they'll accidentally become felons so they just won't buy guns.
If you think not going door to door means it's not a big deal you're the problem
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01-13-2023, 04:21 PM
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these retro rulings are unconstitutional. You can't arrest someone for something that legal when the act occurred. Buying a brace when it was legal makes it legal for you for ever. Blurring the lines through way of the semantics of "possession" is bullchit. You do not "possess" an illegal brace if you bought it legally.
Why is the law so inconsistent here? What other controlled item has received this treatment? Drugs? Last time they tried this with alcohol we got the prohibition era….
Why is the law so inconsistent here? What other controlled item has received this treatment? Drugs? Last time they tried this with alcohol we got the prohibition era….
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01-13-2023, 04:22 PM
#1937
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Correct, nobody has a private range in their backyard in which to use their federal felony firearms that are solely used in private in the backyard without ever going anywhere else and only used recreationally and those nobodies are so super cool and awesome to hide in fear in their backyard while they shoot cute little targets and think they're sticking it to the man
Yes cause no one has private ranges available to use firearms with no supervision
None of those and even if there were they would be irrelevant to the world
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01-13-2023, 04:24 PM
#1938
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You’re not wrong
these retro rulings are unconstitutional. You can't arrest someone for something that legal when the act occurred. Buying a brace when it was legal makes it legal for you for ever. Blurring the lines through way of the semantics of "possession" is bullchit. You do not "possess" an illegal brace if you bought it legally.
Why is the law so inconsistent here? What other controlled item has received this treatment? Drugs? Last time they tried this with alcohol we got the prohibition era….
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01-13-2023, 05:54 PM
#1939
Lmao this will backfire on the ATF on so many different levels. Can't wait.
Wouldn't doubt it if SRB's are wiped off the list of NFA items all together once the dust settles with the sh|t show this is about to be.
Wouldn't doubt it if SRB's are wiped off the list of NFA items all together once the dust settles with the sh|t show this is about to be.
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01-13-2023, 06:05 PM
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They have have overextended
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01-13-2023, 08:58 PM
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I'm genuinely confused as to why so many people are trying to sh|t on the guys who are going to do the free form 1.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
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01-13-2023, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I'm genuinely confused as to why so many people are trying to sh|t on the guys who are going to do the free form 1.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
why are you chitting on the people chitting on the cowards? chit on everyone for not protesting the atf. This chit should be over and done with.
that being said, its dumb to risk your family's well being over this….which means this is beyond the fight most are willing to put up…..which answers your question.
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01-13-2023, 09:16 PM
#1943
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I would assume if someone wanted an illegal gun configured for a private range, they would have just bought the stock instead of a brace to begin with.
Yes cause no one has private ranges available to use firearms with no supervision.
If I had any pistols, I'd probably see if someone gets an emergency injunction and then just destroy the braces if they don't by day 119. Might do the free form 1, but I also don't know that I trust that to go well. When CA did the "register your assault weapon and you can keep it legally" thing years ago, all those people got door knocks afterward.
I don't see any reason to keep a part that seems to be more illegal to keep than an actual spare stock would be.
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01-13-2023, 09:42 PM
#1944
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
The reality is 99% of people are going to comply and register their sh|t. It’s bullsh|t, but it’s that or live your life with the thought of 10 years in prison and/or a $10,000 fine over your head. For 99% of people, it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Not gonna risk my kids being fatherless because I’m a bad ass who’s surely gonna show them by keeping my illegal SBR.
why are you chitting on the people chitting on the cowards? chit on everyone for not protesting the atf. This chit should be over and done with.
that being said, its dumb to risk your family's well being over this….which means this is beyond the fight most are willing to put up…..which answers your question.
that being said, its dumb to risk your family's well being over this….which means this is beyond the fight most are willing to put up…..which answers your question.
Edit: To be clear, I REALLY don’t expect this to even get this far. ATF is going to get the piss smacked out of them before the 120 day mark comes and goes is my guess.
The volume of people this effects has never been seen before in the gun community (or any community I’m aware of).
I don’t think there has ever been a law (or in this case a made up “ruling”) turning MILLIONS of people into felons.
There’s an estimated 30-40 million braces out in the wild. We’re not talking about effecting just a few thousand people. This is literally like 10% of the American population lol. I’m sure many of those stocks are owned by the same people, but you get the point.
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01-14-2023, 12:25 AM
#1945
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Bc they want you on the list. The people that have evaded the list legally. To know what you own. To track you. So later they can take them away. It’s not rocket science. It’s clear as day what their end game is. Don’t be so naive.
I'm genuinely confused as to why so many people are trying to sh|t on the guys who are going to do the free form 1.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
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Guys have been paying the $200 stamp for their form 1 SBR's for years and years and no one has cared. Now that millions of people are about to get it for free, people are suddenly outraged. I'm lost as fk. lol
Is it just that people are mad they had to pay $200 and now millions of others will get theirs for no cost?
Edit: Assuming it even gets that far anyway.
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01-14-2023, 12:31 AM
#1946
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
If this doesn't get the piss smacked out of it, I think everyone needs to realize their current guns will eventually be illegal to keep. I don't mean their AR pistols. I mean whatever the fuk they own that isn't a break or pump action shotgun.
The reality is 99% of people are going to comply and register their sh|t. It’s bullsh|t, but it’s that or live your life with the thought of 10 years in prison and/or a $10,000 fine over your head. For 99% of people, it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Not gonna risk my kids being fatherless because I’m a bad ass who’s surely gonna show them by keeping my illegal SBR.
Edit: To be clear, I REALLY don’t expect this to even get this far. ATF is going to get the piss smacked out of them before the 120 day mark comes and goes is my guess.
The volume of people this effects has never been seen before in the gun community (or any community I’m aware of).
I don’t think there has ever been a law (or in this case a made up “ruling”) turning MILLIONS of people into felons.
There’s an estimated 30-40 million braces out in the wild. We’re not talking about effecting just a few thousand people. This is literally like 10% of the American population lol. I’m sure many of those stocks are owned by the same people, but you get the point.
Edit: To be clear, I REALLY don’t expect this to even get this far. ATF is going to get the piss smacked out of them before the 120 day mark comes and goes is my guess.
The volume of people this effects has never been seen before in the gun community (or any community I’m aware of).
I don’t think there has ever been a law (or in this case a made up “ruling”) turning MILLIONS of people into felons.
There’s an estimated 30-40 million braces out in the wild. We’re not talking about effecting just a few thousand people. This is literally like 10% of the American population lol. I’m sure many of those stocks are owned by the same people, but you get the point.
Assuming this survives the legal challenges, I can promise you the next target: anything that "accepts" a magazine larger than 10 rounds. Will get billed as a standard mag cap law, but will actually ban every semi auto weapon in existence.
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01-14-2023, 04:48 AM
#1947
It definitely could set the stage for that to happen. This is a fork in the road for the 2A.
If they are allowed to ban an item that is widely used, it could set a precedent that could be used to facilitate the ban of widely used firearms.
If they are allowed to ban an item that is widely used, it could set a precedent that could be used to facilitate the ban of widely used firearms.
01-14-2023, 04:57 AM
#1948
And never forget, the first line of The Constitution, which could be considered the front page of the Bill of Rights, states "We the People…"
This is the citizens telling the government what THEIR rights are, and how the government will operate, unconditionally. It is NOT a list of what the government says the people are allowed to do. I am positive most people don't understand this fact, andthey instead believe the BoR is permission from the government.
As time went on, liberal ideology has been turning this situation in the opposite direction than it was intended to be by our founding fathers. The government is meant to serve the people, not to have tyrannical control of them.
This is the citizens telling the government what THEIR rights are, and how the government will operate, unconditionally. It is NOT a list of what the government says the people are allowed to do. I am positive most people don't understand this fact, andthey instead believe the BoR is permission from the government.
As time went on, liberal ideology has been turning this situation in the opposite direction than it was intended to be by our founding fathers. The government is meant to serve the people, not to have tyrannical control of them.
01-14-2023, 06:04 AM
#1949
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What? Plenty of people use illegal or stolen firearms all the time and no one gives af. I’ve never been asked for a tax stamp at a public range either.
Correct, nobody has a private range in their backyard in which to use their federal felony firearms that are solely used in private in the backyard without ever going anywhere else and only used recreationally and those nobodies are so super cool and awesome to hide in fear in their backyard while they shoot cute little targets and think they're sticking it to the man
None of those and even if there were they would be irrelevant to the world
None of those and even if there were they would be irrelevant to the world
If your comply with this or even have an SBR stamp you’re kinda a pussy, but that’s ok. Risk tolerance is different for everyone and Fudd thought still permeates gun culture.
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01-14-2023, 06:15 AM
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If we wanna get REAL REAL, using a brace in the first place is a bitch move. A stock is cheaper and works better.
There are literally thousands of videos on YouTube of thugs using illegal Glock switches and nothing ever happens and we worried about stocks on rifles. This is why gun owners will continue to lose.
Literally only like one case of anyone ever getting prosecuted for an illegal SBR and it was because some dumbass was running his mouth to an illegal immigrant and she was about to get deported and got snitched on.
There are literally thousands of videos on YouTube of thugs using illegal Glock switches and nothing ever happens and we worried about stocks on rifles. This is why gun owners will continue to lose.
Literally only like one case of anyone ever getting prosecuted for an illegal SBR and it was because some dumbass was running his mouth to an illegal immigrant and she was about to get deported and got snitched on.
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